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saint:

--- Quote from: Aithos on October 29, 2010, 01:44:03 am ---
--- Quote from: Osirus23 on October 29, 2010, 12:09:25 am ---I read every word of it, but have no desire to read another word of your nonsense ever again.

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I have a problem with the fact it is called the ArcadeVGA 3000, it shouldn't be called that.  Period.  It isn't an ArcadeVGA 3000, it is an ATI Radeon 2600 with some small modification and custom drivers.  The whole point I was trying to make is that the wording should really be changed.  If this was anything but an extremely niche/underground market ATI would have dropped the hammer and pulled his ability to buy from their distributors.  

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I'm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161336
HIS videocard with ATI chipset

not
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131373
Powercolor videocard with ATI chipset

sure
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125326
Gigabyte videocard with ATI chipset

where
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131361
Powercolor videocard with ATI chipset

you're
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150390
XFX videocard with ATI chipset

coming from.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129144
VisionTEK videocard with ATI chipset

...............

You're complaining about an industry standard practice done by a vendor who in no way, shape, or form attempted to disguise the nature of his product or who the chipset manufacturer is.

???


From the website

http://ultimarc.com/avgafaq.html

--- Quote ---    *  What are the differences between this card and a normal VGA card?

All VGA cards contain a number of in-built video modes, that applications can detect and switch to. The problem with normal cards is that all of these modes are useless on a 15Khz monitor because they all send a 31Khz horizontal scan rate signal. Even if they could be used, they are not tailored to gaming because most of them are a too-high resolution. When used with an arcade monitor the ArcadeVGA card discards all of these modes and replaces them with an enlarged set of 30 built-in modes, all of which send 15Khz and all are tailored to gaming. The mode timings are held in flash ROM on the card. The pixel clock circuitry is different to allow for a lower value of clock, needed for lower horizontal scan rates. With a PC monitor all of these modes are also available but they scan at 31Khz. In addition, on a PC monitor conventional Windows modes are available.

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(emphasis mine)

Objection to your post isn't that you have an issue with the technology. We love those kinds of discussions here. The objection to your post is you essentially called the vendor a fraud. The strong backlash you're getting is because of all the vendors you might ever encounter anywhere, this vendor specifically is the least likely to ever be attempting to defraud his customers. There are other great vendors in this hobby and elsewhere, but there are no vendors I have ever come across with a better customer service/support attitude than this one. Regardless of whether or not you like the technology, and yes there are other alternatives one might choose, accusing the vendor of deceit (whether you stated it outright or by implication, since you've edited the first post I don't recall now) was unquestionably off-base.

I wouldn't stress about it though, today's drama is tomorrow's "what were we talking about?" -- welcome to the forums, looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)

--- saint

FrizzleFried:
 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

 :cheers:

PS:  Saint's right about not stressing about this... I'm quite sure I've been there... more than once likely.

;)

saint:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on October 29, 2010, 10:33:02 am ---
PS:  Saint's right about not stressing about this... I'm quite sure I've been there... more than once likely.

;)


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Pretty sure you were the poster child :)

Aithos:
Well I didn't call him a fraud, and I have already apologized several times for the way I worded my post.  But after reading Andy's post I guess I was
grossly mistaken about the creation and endorsement of these cards.  I have no real way of verifying what he said, but I'll just take him at his word.
If these are co-developed with ATI with their full support and their own tools, then I have absolutely no problem with it being called what it is. 

So to be 100% clear:  I apologize.  Both to Andy and everyone who has posted here.  I'm not too proud to admit when I'm wrong and in this case I was
definitely wrong.  However, the one thing I will say is that if everything Andy said in his post is true, then all that should be on his page somewhere, you
should be proud to have worked alongside ATI to develop a product for this market.  I would never have made my initial post in this thread had I known
and there was no way I could have known, yes I made assumptions but I had nothing to tell me otherwise. 

Thank you to the couple people who have had nice things to say, I'm looking forward to just putting this behind me and hopefully the next time I open my mouth
it will be to share something worthwhile or help someone out instead of to say something hurtful.  I won't make excuses for what I said, it doesn't matter what
is going on in my life, I was wrong, plain and simple.  So once again, I'm sorry guys.

saint:
 :cheers:

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