Service: Controller Hacks - Xbox, Xbox 360, Dreamcast, PS2, etc!

[Damage_Jack]

Well that's just it, isn't it? I don't know what DC games I'll want to play, but If I can't play certain ones, then the value of adding a DC to my cab is diminished --unless I have DC controllers at hand. Then the question is why hook the DC to my arcade controls at all if I am going to need  DC controllers for certain games anyway.

I have tried searching for info, but it seems hard to find any regarding how to incorporate an analog arcade stick to a DC.
-damage jack

[HarumaN]

I have tried searching for info, but it seems hard to find any regarding how to incorporate an analog arcade stick to a DC.
-damage jack

That's because it is very difficult (if not impossible) to do.

I have ~100 Dreamcast games.  Only one of them (Berzerk) requires use of the analog stick, and none make use of the analog trigger feature.  With that game and a hacked analog stick (now digital), the game is still playable, the only difference is your at full speed 100% of the time.

[Jest]

So I saw something about this service of yours in my other thread  .   Can you hack a PS3 control to work with both PS3 and PC?  What I am looking to do is to make a PS3 stick that can be later integrated into a cabinet. 

[HarumaN]

So I saw something about this service of yours in my other thread  .   Can you hack a PS3 control to work with both PS3 and PC?  What I am looking to do is to make a PS3 stick that can be later integrated into a cabinet. 

Yes it can be done.  There is a custom driver that someone wrote that will allow windows to recognize the PS3 controller.  So, you should be able to use it for both systems.

Here are the instructions:

   1. Download and install the filter driver (libusb-win32-filter-bin-0.1.10.1.exe).
   2. Unpack ps3sixaxis_en.exe
   3. Plug the SIXAXIS into your PC.
   4. Run ps3sixaxis_en.exe once.
   5. Push the PS button on the SIXAXIS once if it doesn't see it straight away.

I've included the driver files

[HarumaN]

Bumps 

[HarumaN]

 

They should have a 'bump' smiley

[MrMojoZ]

Can you do any 360 pads that have common ground setups for the joystick?

[HarumaN]

Can you do any 360 pads that have common ground setups for the joystick?

Yes, the MadCatz pads for the Xbox 360 have a common ground.

[Ummon]

Why don't you ask to be stickied?

[HarumaN]

I did ask... no one ever answered me back...   

[HarumaN]

bump for added pictures, and added Xbox 360 Madcatz hack

[MrMojoZ]

Got my pad in and setup in a state of the art joystick housing, thanks HarumaN!




Well maybe not that sate of the art, but I can play sf3 on MAME or my 360 untill my stick is finished. 

[HarumaN]

Looks good!  Post some pics when you get the final product together! 

[Ummon]

One of these days, someone should make what could be called a 'dork' (or maybe 'noob') stick - made out of wood, but boxy and with some kind of electronic item's box graphics on it.

[HarumaN]

One of these days, someone should make what could be called a 'dork' (or maybe 'noob') stick - made out of wood, but boxy and with some kind of electronic item's box graphics on it.

I made my first stick out of an old speaker box, a piece of particle board shelving for the CP, and then covered everything in black marble contact paper.  It was pretty hideous.

[Ummon]

Actually, I don't see marble finish being all that bad. Man, it would cost a lot but I bet people here who normally poo-poo marble melamine or whatever would totally go ape----steaming pile of meadow muffin--- for a cab made of actual marble.

[Beaps]

Anthing you can do to get a Dreamcast controller to work with a JVS Naomi Cab control panel?

[HarumaN]

Anthing you can do to get a Dreamcast controller to work with a JVS Naomi Cab control panel?

You can take a hacked controller, and wire it to your control panel directly, or you can wire it to an edge connector, and plug it in to your cabinet.

[Beaps]

I dont want to hardwire it to my control panel as I use it for other things.

I did buy this to enable a PC to connect to the control panel via USB

http://jvspac.kirurg.org/

Is there a way you can make a Dreamcast Version.

Or is there a way you can hack one of these to USB instead of an X-Arcade, then I connect my I/O via USB to it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/X-ARCADE-DREAMCAST-CONSOLE-ADAPTER-NEW_W0QQitemZ280273661773QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280273661773&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Namco]

Aah, I forgot you did this HarumaN. Very nice hacks man. So each 360 controller has about 30 hookups I see. I'll need an enclosure with LPT connectors for it like this:


... so I can connect my controls to it.


I hope I wrote the pinout down somewhere

What are the dimensions of the 360 pcb with the wirestrips? What minimum size enclosure would I need to get?

[HarumaN]

Would you be needing wired or wireless hacks?  If wired, I would HIGHLY recommend the MadCatz (GameStop) pad, as it has a common ground and only 16 hookups (vs. 30 for the non-commom ground M$ official pads).

I'll have to do some measuring when I get home...

[HarumaN]

The madcatz pads are 5.25 by 2.5 by 1 inch, and the terminal strips add a couple of inches...

I would wait until you had the pads in hand to buy a enclosure box.  That way you could be certain they would fit.

[Bender]

hey HarumaN,

Great work!!

I want to build a FPS CP for my 360 using two analog joysticks
is this possible?

I'd need a wireless controler hack plus I'd need to find out what type of pot the controller uses and how to rewire those to the new joysticks

[HarumaN]

@ Bender, thanks!

Unfortunately, what you want has been requested / suggested many times.  As far as I know, it just isn't possible. 

The problem lies in matching up potentiometers.  You have to match the neutral resistance (stick centered), which in itself probably wouldn't be too hard, but then you would have to match the extremes as well (as in 100% left / 100% right).

[Namco]

Whoa, check this out, how hard are these to hack?



EDIT: Crap, image just broke. Serves me right for hotlinking it. I'll upload a new one when I get home.

[Bender]

@ Bender, thanks!

Unfortunately, what you want has been requested / suggested many times.  As far as I know, it just isn't possible. 

The problem lies in matching up potentiometers.  You have to match the neutral resistance (stick centered), which in itself probably wouldn't be too hard, but then you would have to match the extremes as well (as in 100% left / 100% right).

It looks like quasimoto did it

if your interested in trying it I'd be happy to cover the cost for parts for you to experiment with

I wanted to do something like this but on a cp not in a chair
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbF0ooRJWkI[/youtube]

[HarumaN]

Sending you a PM...

[HarumaN]

Whoa, check this out, how hard are these to hack?

Just saw this post, missed it for some reason before.  Those are easy to hack, and have a common ground. 

[opt2not]

Satisfied customer bump!

I just got my controller hacks from HarumaN, and one of them was a madcatz arcade stick.  If you can get them for that cheap, I'd say go for it, the hack is solid and CLEAN -- HarumaN did an excellent job!

Thanks a lot brother!
 

[Joystick Jerk]

Haruman, if you buy the controller for a hack, do you buy new off the shelf or try to get cheaper used pads? Just curious what the total price is for hacking a Mad Catz 360 pad that you purchase.

[HarumaN]

Haruman, if you buy the controller for a hack, do you buy new off the shelf or try to get cheaper used pads? Just curious what the total price is for hacking a Mad Catz 360 pad that you purchase.

I get used, if available.  For the most part, there aren't usually a whole lot of used controllers at Gamestop (where I would go), but sometimes I get lucky.  Were you referring to the regular Mad Catz pad or the arcade stick version?  (Both can be hacked with a single ground, but the regular pad would be smaller in the end)

[Joystick Jerk]

Either would be fine. Are there any benefits or caveats besides price and size between the two?

[HarumaN]

Either would be fine. Are there any benefits or caveats besides price and size between the two?

Nope, both will function exactly the same.  Shoot me a PM and we can talk details if you are interested.   

[Joystick Jerk]

My project is currently on hold right now for maybe a week. I've got a cheapo Hori 360 on order just so I can test it out. I know everyone says you get what you pay for with those sticks, but I'm at least going to check it out. Worst comes to worst I can sell it since they hold their value pretty well.

If I do choose to start on a new home-built stick, I'll definitely be buying one of your pre-hacked pads. Keep an eye out for cheap Mad Catz 360 pads, as I'll get back to you either way.

[HarumaN]

Sounds good.    Just let me know.

[Snowblindz]

Received my Xbox 360 hacked controllers Friday .. they are perfect!  HarumaN did an amazing job... very neat clean work.   Thanks a million!  I have my arcade controls working now.. been playing SF2HD Remix it is the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---! 

[HarumaN]

Received my Xbox 360 hacked controllers Friday .. they are perfect!  HarumaN did an amazing job... very neat clean work.   Thanks a million!  I have my arcade controls working now.. been playing SF2HD Remix it is the ---Cleveland steamer---! 

Thanks for the feedback!  Glad they worked out for you...  how 'bout some pics?   

[Joystick Jerk]

Just got a 360 pad from Haruman today and it works great. Top quality work, and it's rock solid. If anyone needs a pre-hacked pad, these are probably the best you can get out there. Highly recommended!

[ckong]

Does anyone know if HarumaN ist still doing this nice hacks? I PM'd him a few days ago, but I didn't get a reply yet.

[HarumaN]

Does anyone know if HarumaN ist still doing this nice hacks? I PM'd him a few days ago, but I didn't get a reply yet.

I sent you a PM back, maybe you didn't get it, I'll try again.