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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #200 on: November 14, 2021, 06:17:57 am »
Just to confirm if it's global or just me; the ini integer scaling options stopped working since they've added the feature to the UI, didn't they ?

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If so that kinda sucks because, well, integer scale settings can no longer apply for good by chosen settings anymore, nor be saved from the UI.

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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #201 on: November 14, 2021, 02:54:10 pm »
Just to confirm if it's global or just me; the ini integer scaling options stopped working since they've added the feature to the UI, didn't they ?

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They are working here, both from ini and command line. You may need to disable unevenstretch first since these options only work with integer scaling.
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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #202 on: November 15, 2021, 11:14:21 am »
Hi Calamity,

I believe there is a small issue with switchres not updating the modeline when its *almost* the same. I remember reading that you blocked updating when the modeline does not actually change, however when refresh does change it should update right?

The trick is the UI mentions the new refresh rate but when you hit F11 it shows something else than 100%, for example a stable 94% (~56Hz to 60 Hz with kram rom). It's confirmed for me in that I can see that my (Euro) TV has not updated (vertical amplitude remains the same when it should have changed).

Thanks
« Last Edit: November 15, 2021, 11:18:10 am by makya »

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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #203 on: November 15, 2021, 12:10:58 pm »
Hi Calamity,

I believe there is a small issue with switchres not updating the modeline when its *almost* the same. I remember reading that you blocked updating when the modeline does not actually change, however when refresh does change it should update right?

The trick is the UI mentions the new refresh rate but when you hit F11 it shows something else than 100%, for example a stable 94% (~56Hz to 60 Hz with kram rom). It's confirmed for me in that I can see that my (Euro) TV has not updated (vertical amplitude remains the same when it should have changed).

Thanks

This shouldn't be the case, in fact I would have noticed it here. There must be something else going on.
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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #204 on: November 15, 2021, 01:18:15 pm »
They are working here, both from ini and command line. You may need to disable unevenstretch first since these options only work with integer scaling.

How could I forget about that ? must be age already...ugh.  :embarassed:
Anyway thanks! ^^

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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #205 on: November 15, 2021, 05:50:22 pm »
This shouldn't be the case, in fact I would have noticed it here. There must be something else going on.

Well, you could probably not notice as long as your range allows for enough different resolutions. Otherwise it may be an issue with my HD4870?
Anyway I made new tests on a freshly installed GM (0.237). So as long as the resolution changes (tested vertical res. only though) everything works ok, otherwise I get stuck with the initial refresh rate.

For 0x244 I forced 58Hz as initial refresh rate, so we get 58/60.021 = 96.63% vs GM average speed 96.66%
The other ones have initial refresh at 55.838 Hz, then 55.838/60.021 = 93.03% vs GM av. speed 93.01%

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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #206 on: November 22, 2021, 03:11:18 am »
@makya, thanks a lot for the logs, that fully confirm the issue you described. I'd say this problem doesn't happen with HD 5000+ cards (need confirmation). I'll look into the problem as soon as I have time.
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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #207 on: November 23, 2021, 04:02:29 pm »
Calamity,

Thanks for looking into this. To me it looks like the switch in the middle (let's say modeline #2) never really happens.

In the working case this has no influence because the last switch is required (modeline #3 != modeline #2), and we end up with the correct res./refresh.

In the not working cases, the last switch does not happen either (because modeline #3 = modeline #2).

Well those are my assumptions, I may be wrong...  :dunno

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Re: Groovymame 0.237 - Switchres 2.002e
« Reply #208 on: December 15, 2021, 03:39:20 pm »
are you working on  a 0.238 version?

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #209 on: December 28, 2021, 02:21:57 pm »
GroovyMAME 0.238 is out!

What's new in Switchres 2.002f (December 2021)

- [Linux] First release ever to support mode switching on KMS. It needs Substring's patched kernel and SDL2 (>=2.0.16) available on GroovyArcade's repository.

This release means a major breakthrough, allowing for the first time dynamic mode switching on KMS (i.e. without Xorg). This has been the result of a long continued work that started with Switchres 2.0 and its integration in GroovyMAME. Credits to Doozer for his work on the drmkms backend, and specially to Substring who developed to method to add modes dynamically so the magic can actually happen.

Note: due to real life commitments we're currently one release behind MAMEdev, hopefully we'll catch up in the following weeks.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2021, 02:35:45 pm by Calamity »
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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #210 on: December 28, 2021, 03:42:57 pm »
GroovyMAME 0.238 is out!

What's new in Switchres 2.002f (December 2021)

- [Linux] First release ever to support mode switching on KMS. It needs Substring's patched kernel and SDL2 (>=2.0.16) available on GroovyArcade's repository.

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- this is actually huge. Well done to all the people involved.

I wonder if in the future we could have GroovyMAME running on ARM platforms as well. There are some pretty capable CPUs out there.

EDIT: giving out a bit of prospective: I've been working on running a full blown Linux distro on the PSClassic, with hardware acceleration and all the bells and whistles, and I was surprised at the power of its quad-core ARM CPU, especially since it is the lowest version of that ARM family. And the GPU is a bomb, but that wouldn't help much in MAME.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2021, 03:45:10 pm by donluca »
On a scale of fakeness, from more genuine to more fake, we'd have:

1.- Plastic plants (cf. Fake Plastic Trees)
2.- Inflatable dolls
3.- Arcade cabinets with LCD monitors

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #211 on: December 29, 2021, 11:55:41 am »
We all agree Mame is not reputed for its speed optimizations. So running MAME/GM on an ARM device can be a big desilluion on lower end ARM SBCs. I think the Pi4 should have reasonnable performance on most arcade oldies. But yeah I share the same dream : getting KMS modeswitching on ARM SBCs.

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #212 on: December 30, 2021, 08:37:16 am »
I'll have to try and compile regular MAME to see how it runs on the PSClassic. So far I've been very impressed with the CPU (and even more by its very capable GPU), I really want to see what it is capable of running.
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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #213 on: December 30, 2021, 08:47:33 am »
I don't know about the PSClassic hacks, but remember you need a patched kernel + patched SDL2 ...

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #214 on: December 30, 2021, 06:10:28 pm »
I don't know about the PSClassic hacks, but remember you need a patched kernel + patched SDL2 ...

I won't go too deep into this, but it's a complete mess.

I still somehow managed to get any Linux distro working on it, I have the kernel's source and had to recompile it with different options.

It works, but it is hindered by the binary blobs, mainly the PowerVR GPU driver which is stuck with a certain version of MESA and a bunch of other libraries since it has static links to them and won't work with any other library.
Weston is the only compositor who can properly load the driver and activate the HDMI output.
That is, if you want GPU hardware acceleration.
Otherwise you can use X.org with the Gallium drivers which are software based.
Which means you're stuck with Wayland, there are no X drivers, which in theory is not a bad thing, but the actual state of Wayland is... well, not that good, even on Debian which has fully embraced it.
On a scale of fakeness, from more genuine to more fake, we'd have:

1.- Plastic plants (cf. Fake Plastic Trees)
2.- Inflatable dolls
3.- Arcade cabinets with LCD monitors

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #215 on: December 31, 2021, 06:18:50 am »
Thanks again for this great job! As I only use Groovymame on my Arcade cabinet I wonder is there is an Arcade version of GM available? In the past I used this version, but I cannot find it anymore. I believe it was an Italian website. Can someone please point me to the right direction?

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #216 on: January 08, 2022, 05:22:35 am »
Note: due to real life commitments we're currently one release behind MAMEdev, hopefully we'll catch up in the following weeks.
Thank for the new build. Will we see a 0.239 though ? for the MAME side of things that would be absolutely excellent.  :notworthy:

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #217 on: January 08, 2022, 02:11:03 pm »
Are there some exciting changes on 0.239 ?

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #218 on: January 08, 2022, 03:18:39 pm »
Depends who you ask of course, not everyone follows MAME and Groovy for the same reasons. For me in 0.239 there are some awaited fixes indeed, also last build and romset to feature some games before their planned removal in 0.240 for probably what'll be a long, long time.
If several MAME updates get skipped by Groovy after that I don't mind personally, but it'd be a shame to miss 0.239 yeah.  :(

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #219 on: January 09, 2022, 10:31:46 am »
he is working on 239, just a new feature that didn't turn the expected way is delaying the release

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #220 on: January 10, 2022, 09:54:01 am »
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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #221 on: January 11, 2022, 06:59:29 pm »
also last build and romset to feature some games before their planned removal in 0.240 for probably what'll be a long, long time.

Which games aside of Akai Katana?

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #222 on: January 12, 2022, 03:25:13 am »
Hmmm...
DoDonPachi SaiDaiOuJou ?
exA "politely" asked the mame team to remove support, sending them a formal letter AFAIK.

https://www.reddit.com/r/shmupchumps/comments/rt3klb/akai_katana_and_ddp_saidaioujou_removed_from_mame/

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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #223 on: January 12, 2022, 04:32:20 am »
GroovyMAME 0.239 is out!

What's new in Switchres 2.002g (January 2022)

- New option -switchres_ini. If enabled, GroovyMAME will try to parse switchres.ini and use it for its configuration. Options priorities, in increasing order: mame.ini < switchres.ini < display#.ini < orientation.ini < ..... < command line.

- [Linux] Improved support for mode switching on KMS.

- [Linux] Fixes toggling fullscreen on/off (still imperfect but functional).


NOTE: Windows users will probably want to keep new option -switchres_ini disabled (default), and just use mame.ini for configuration, as usual. Linux users, on the other hand, may now decide if GroovyMAME should use system-wide switchres.ini, so they can centralize all their SR's compatible emulators configuration in a single ini. Overrides are allowed, as usual, by following ini priority order.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2022, 04:57:07 am by Calamity »
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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #224 on: January 12, 2022, 04:35:37 am »
Thank you so much for all your hard work Calamity!!!!  :applaud:

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Re: Groovymame 0.238 - Switchres 2.002f
« Reply #225 on: January 12, 2022, 07:21:37 am »
Hmmm...
DoDonPachi SaiDaiOuJou ?
exA "politely" asked the mame team to remove support, sending them a formal letter AFAIK.

https://www.reddit.com/r/shmupchumps/comments/rt3klb/akai_katana_and_ddp_saidaioujou_removed_from_mame/

Wow, has this happened before with Mame, a developer asking to remove an arcade game?
Usually the issue is the rom and not the emulator. Funny how emulation in Mame is catching new releases.

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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #226 on: January 12, 2022, 08:21:20 am »
It has, and if I recall the last one was indeed the same game Akai Katana. But it was Cave themselves. This 2021 C&D from Exa Arcadia is kind of silly because the game they want to sell is a deep revision which even has a remake as the base, so it's not the same piece at all nor they actually have the rights for it. Anyway the removal has more to do with Exa Arcadia's owner and his relationship with MAME devs.

Though I didn't know that Saidaoioujou was already emulated by MAME officially; is that really the case?

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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #227 on: January 12, 2022, 08:31:29 am »
From the top of my head, none that I am aware of.

Technically mame doesn't provide any copyrighted rom but gives a way to emulate games through a framework and drivers (though you could always argue that any reverse engineering which made it possible and was published is actually a violation of an intellectual property).

They self apply the so called rule of ten years i.e they don't include public support to games that aren't at least 10 years old, even if they've been dumped for some time.

Now back to saidaioujou and akaikatana, exA-arcadia bought both IP titles for arcade exploitation and new releases of the games on their platform.

Since Shou, exA-arcadia owner (a well known arcade collector who funnliy enough turns out to be one the top pcb dumpers for mame in his time) threatened mame devs with a legal action, they'd back down and removed support from both games counting from mame 0.240.

Meanwhile Mame 0.239 still has the drivers built-in and the roms keep floatin around on the interweb...
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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #228 on: January 12, 2022, 08:33:50 am »
Though I didn't know that Saidaoioujou was already emulated by MAME officially; is that really the case?

Yup, pretty much.
They've planned for an official release on April 22 but it was leaked on 0.239.

Long story short, Cuavas explained the matter in details here :

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/rtlceo/mame_is_officially_dropping_support_for_akai/
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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #229 on: January 12, 2022, 08:37:23 am »
So you can play Saidaioujou with GM 0.239?





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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #230 on: January 12, 2022, 09:00:49 am »
Sure :


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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #231 on: January 12, 2022, 11:51:53 am »
That's with a hacked build isn't it ? afaik that doesn't work in baseline or Groovy.

Anyway thanks a lot for the update !  :cheers:

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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #232 on: January 12, 2022, 04:55:41 pm »
Well sort of, actually it's almost in baseline but you'll have to compile a working version all by yourself.

At some point, they removed saidaioujou support but the driver commits are still available from github, all you have to do is copy them into cv1k.cpp, compile and you're done.

Barely a hack...

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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #233 on: January 12, 2022, 05:19:19 pm »
Would you mind sharing it with us, please?

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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #234 on: January 12, 2022, 06:15:05 pm »
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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #235 on: January 13, 2022, 06:22:01 am »
Trying to get this to work in Groovy 239.  :applaud:

EDIT: big thanks Man !  :cheers:
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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #236 on: January 31, 2022, 09:42:14 pm »
Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g can run with a crt_emudriver 12.6!
switchres_ini             1
and edit switchres.ini
api                       powerstrip
thats run perfect 240p & perfect refresh

If
    switchres_ini             0
   switchres_backend   powerstrip
thats only  480i,but perfect refresh


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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #237 on: February 01, 2022, 07:13:13 am »
Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g can run with a crt_emudriver 12.6!
switchres_ini             1
and edit switchres.ini
api                       powerstrip
thats run perfect 240p & perfect refresh

If
    switchres_ini             0
   switchres_backend   powerstrip
thats only  480i,but perfect refresh

It's basically not working, unless you have Powerstrip installed, which is a nonsense. Please don't use 12.6. It's only there to support pre-HD 5000 cards.
Important note: posts reporting GM issues without a log will be IGNORED.
Steps to create a log:
 - From command line, run: groovymame.exe -v romname >romname.txt
 - Attach resulting romname.txt file to your post, instead of pasting it.

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Re: Groovymame 0.239 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #238 on: February 01, 2022, 08:04:04 am »
Hi @Calamity, are you planning to release an updated version of Sr with the 0.240?
Thanks

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Re: Groovymame 0.234 - Switchres 2.002g
« Reply #239 on: February 01, 2022, 09:57:31 am »
GroovyMAME 0.240 is out!

Starting with this release, a source patch for GroovyMAME will be available along with the binaries on Github's releases. Thanks to Substring for implementing this. It will hopefully make life easier for those who keep alternative builds.
Important note: posts reporting GM issues without a log will be IGNORED.
Steps to create a log:
 - From command line, run: groovymame.exe -v romname >romname.txt
 - Attach resulting romname.txt file to your post, instead of pasting it.

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