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Title: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on January 12, 2012, 06:50:47 pm
Ok. I received some full side art scans from "ctozzi". The scans were sub-par in the fact that there were streaks on Johnny's spandex pants where someone tried to clean the sides before scanning and both sides are about 25% faded. I don't think anyone would be happy with the way they looked before or after they were printed. So...

I decided to fix them up. Man, what a hassle.

The rundown...

I left the monitor bolts on the image to help line it up correctly when it's applied to the machine. I had to re-do the black of JC's spandex pants because there were streaks in them where someone tried to clean the art and just ended up leaving streaks like on a window. Some of the black outlines around the dragon may look like they don't flow smoothly, but I followed the black lines and that's how they actually were. The edges of the art (around the outer edges) are a little sloppy, as far as not being straight, but that's ok because when they are cut out, the "cutter" can make them straight when they get cut. Make sense?

These images are NOT perfect, but for what they are, they will totally be usable...in my opinion.

The background color is as accurate as possible with what I can sample from the real sideart on my non-faded dedicated MK1. I chose not to fade the red as it went up to the top because frankly it was beyond my ability and I think this looks pretty damn close to factory anyway the way it is.

I hope they meet with your approval.

Here is the full res/size artwork. Please feel free to post your criticisms/appreciation/opinions on this thread. I am interested to hear them. Thanks and enjoy!...


http://www.mediafire.com/?a7yxuj0yh8ih0sh (http://www.mediafire.com/?a7yxuj0yh8ih0sh)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: ctozzi on January 12, 2012, 10:02:36 pm
I will have the 1st set printed tomorrow and installed this weekend, i'll post the pictures after its done
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rash2236 on January 28, 2012, 09:13:37 am
please :notworthy: re upload !!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on January 29, 2012, 06:11:49 am
please :notworthy: re upload !!

Done. Refer to first post again for new link...
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on January 30, 2012, 04:39:20 pm
I will have the 1st set printed tomorrow and installed this weekend, i'll post the pictures after its done

Did you ever get this on a cab man?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on January 30, 2012, 10:08:58 pm
I will have the 1st set printed tomorrow and installed this weekend, i'll post the pictures after its done

Did you ever get this on a cab man?

No. His local print shop wanted too much to print them. He actually ended up selling the cab they were going to be placed on, if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on January 30, 2012, 11:37:44 pm
I will have the 1st set printed tomorrow and installed this weekend, i'll post the pictures after its done

Did you ever get this on a cab man?

No. His local print shop wanted too much to print them. He actually ended up selling the cab they were going to be placed on, if I am not mistaken.

Oh ok.  That must have been the one that ended up all black at one point, huh?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 10, 2012, 06:23:01 pm
I think it looks good, thanks for the upload, I ended up using it I did change the background though and the dragon to. Ill be using it for my WIZ-cade
(http://s19.postimage.org/5jwg4kn3j/DSC00955.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5jwg4kn3j/)

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 11, 2012, 03:33:27 am
I think it looks good, thanks for the upload, I ended up using it I did change the background though and the dragon to. Ill be using it for my WIZ-cade
(http://s19.postimage.org/5jwg4kn3j/DSC00955.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5jwg4kn3j/)

Thanks again.

You're welcome. That looks much better than mine. Especially the fade from red to brown. Yours looks MUCH closer to the original. Any way you could upload your un-moded originals that still have the MIDWAY and the unaltered dragon?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 11, 2012, 02:22:40 pm
I think it looks good, thanks for the upload, I ended up using it I did change the background though and the dragon to. Ill be using it for my WIZ-cade
(http://s19.postimage.org/5jwg4kn3j/DSC00955.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5jwg4kn3j/)

Thanks again.

You're welcome. That looks much better than mine. Especially the fade from red to brown. Yours looks MUCH closer to the original. Any way you could upload your un-moded originals that still have the MIDWAY and the unaltered dragon?

Im not sure what you mean by re upload the originals? did you want the actual big size with the faded back ground? and the midway and original dragoon?

I just used the mini images you upload for my project not the actual download big ones. I can play around with the big ones and change the back ground.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 11, 2012, 11:05:59 pm
If you could do what you did on the mini version with the original full size ones, but not modify the MIDWAY or the dragon (basically just do the fade from red to brown that I couldn't do), that would be great. Thanks! Me and the rest of the MK collectors would be FOREVER grateful.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 12, 2012, 12:25:40 am
Yeah no problem I will work on it tonight.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on February 12, 2012, 08:35:49 pm
Man, if you can make this happen on the original full size artwork you are the man. I have been messing with it, but it is definitely beyond my skills. The top part should be a dark maroon and not just straight black, but maybe thats just my monitor playing tricks on me.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 13, 2012, 12:22:02 am
Ive been busy but tomorrow im off work so ill play around with it. So I planned on just doing black then red. Does anyone know what the real fade is?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on February 13, 2012, 01:19:13 am
Ive been busy but tomorrow im off work so ill play around with it. So I planned on just doing black then red. Does anyone know what the real fade is?

Although not incredibly detailed... here's the arcade flyer for the cabinet:

http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=697&image=1 (http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=697&image=1)

 
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 13, 2012, 01:34:14 am
LOL I would of punched Kano in the face!!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 13, 2012, 01:55:13 am
Ive been busy but tomorrow im off work so ill play around with it. So I planned on just doing black then red. Does anyone know what the real fade is?

Although not incredibly detailed... here's the arcade flyer for the cabinet:

http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=697&image=1 (http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=697&image=1)

  


Here is a pic of my cab un-faded...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_1383-1.jpg)


The fade from red to dark is ever so slight until you get towards the top. Just slightly less of a red to dark fade than the smaller version you made.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 13, 2012, 06:31:39 am
Hey, I was able to play around with the photos, I have only done one side so far. I wanted to get some feedback before I start the other. I was planning on just rotating it then fixing the MIDWAY so its not backwards. that would be much easier. unless the other side is a cleaner image then maybe ill use that instead.

I made 2 different style back grounds. Ones lighter with the darker starting higher up and  the other is darker and the fade starts lower. also on the lighter one I was able to clean up the image in some areas.
(http://s19.postimage.org/zasrhtmun/Right_Side_Darker_SML.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/zasrhtmun/) (http://s19.postimage.org/op8w5tgj3/Right_Side_Lighter_SML.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/op8w5tgj3/)
     Darker              Lighter

Once completed ill e-mail or upload the larger files.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on February 13, 2012, 08:54:24 am
The image to the left looks more accurate..........and wow, its looking good. Thanks for the great work. It will be nice to see the final product
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 13, 2012, 10:42:56 am
Yes. Definitely the one on the left. Looking great!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 16, 2012, 05:12:34 am
UPDATED -Darker Fade on Top, Brighter MIDWAY and also Brighter / Changed contrast on dragon and Cage.

Hey guys I finished the Artwork,
It took a minute only because I was using my wife's laptop. It didn't play well with Photoshop and such a large file.

Here are the 2 small samples.
(http://s19.postimage.org/k5jshtsdr/Left_Side_Darker_sml.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k5jshtsdr/) (http://s19.postimage.org/einfkcpv3/Right_Side_Darker_sml.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/einfkcpv3/)
I was able to clean up some of the washing stains mainly around the tail. I tried my best to fix the indents or creasing on the dragons belly. I made the MIDWAY a solid color and changed out the R trademark with a cleaner one. Also went through and cleaned up any small scratches or dents.
To make the other side I just flipped the image and pasted the MIDWAY facing the right way.


These ended up being bigger files then I thought. so the download file is over 160mb I think. I zipped both of them using Winrar. Im new to mediafire so let me now if you have any problems with the download.
http://www.mediafire.com/?kvoimrho8ax1oj6 (http://www.mediafire.com/?kvoimrho8ax1oj6)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on February 16, 2012, 08:26:20 pm
These do look fantastic, already downloaded. If is not too much trouble, making the top gradient a little darker red would be awesome. The gradient is so close to being a perfect match. The only thing missing is the pixels or whatever on the original cab but looking at these, not sure I would ultimately miss them that much. Overall, you have definitely done a great service to those of us that do not have as good as quality of artwork on our MK cabs like MK3FAN. Thank you
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 17, 2012, 01:50:37 am
Updated Posted files, check them out. I made the fade darker on top. Its a darker red. I also brightened the MIDWAY and the ring around the Dragon. Also brightened cage/dragon and played with the contrast a little to try to get a better look (not so dark)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 17, 2012, 09:49:44 am
Bad-ass!  :notworthy:  Words can't describe how awesome this is. MANY THANKS from the entire Kommunity.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on February 17, 2012, 10:55:39 am
Thank you so much. Dont think they could have turned out any better. You are the man.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 17, 2012, 02:03:46 pm
Thank you so much. Dont think they could have turned out any better. You are the man.
Bad-ass!  :notworthy:  Words can't describe how awesome this is. MANY THANKS from the entire Kommunity.

Thanks Guys im glad I could help out.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on February 17, 2012, 04:53:53 pm
Thank you so much. Dont think they could have turned out any better. You are the man.
Bad-ass!  :notworthy:  Words can't describe how awesome this is. MANY THANKS from the entire Kommunity.

Thanks Guys im glad I could help out.  :cheers:

Fantastic work man.   :applaud: 
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 18, 2012, 06:29:04 pm
Downloading this right now! The only thing is that I might change is taking out the bolts. If this thing is not PERFECTLY lined up you will see part of the bolt next to the real one. Will let you know what I think about it.

EDIT: crap thought it was the actual photoshop file. Do you think you can share the actual photoshop file? My local shop doesn't print them without a illustrator file or photoshop file. Wonder what this would look like screen printed?!
Found a couple parts where you forgot to take out the crosshatch I think it's called.
1 under johnny cage's armpit and by the dragons mouth. I ended up fixing it up on my end. Your choice though if you want me to upload it. Still looking for anything that might have been missed.
Oh btw. I also fixed up johnny cage's belt color. I turned the belt from orange to red. Not sure if it's the correct red though.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/3r7vv.jpg)
And idt the psd is necessary as I just edited the parts I mentioned and saved it as a psd. Only problem I can see from not having the original psd is if anyone wanted to go in and add the black dots on the backround. Though the whole background color would have to be changed because what they did was just pretty much have 1 color and as it got further to the top they just packed the black dots in closer to make it look darker.

Next I'm gonna see what I can do to make johnny cage a little lighter and not so dark.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 18, 2012, 10:02:43 pm
Yeah man. Please upload whatever you've fixed. If we can get this PERFECT, that would be tits!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 18, 2012, 10:30:15 pm
Alright I'll upload both sides at the same time when I'm finished. Having some difficulty with johnny though. Not sure why he came out so dark compared to the rest of the artwork. The dragon and stuff looks fantastic compared to johnny.

BTW MK3FAN I'm gonna be starting a Killer Instinct restore here soon. Got a universal chassis on the way for a 25" tv tube where a couple of convergence rings were bumped by me because the factory for some odd reason didn't glue them down. This is going to be a lot of work. Going to be doing a video before I start.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 19, 2012, 07:08:40 am
Ok I stayed up the whole freaking time working on this and my girlfriend is going to kill me. lol
Anyways. I did all of the finishing touches. Here's what I did.
I made johnny's red cloth a little lighter to match Mike's arcade art, I lightened up all the flesh tones which took most of the time actually, did a few touch ups where the crosshatch slipped past 05SRT4 and that seems about it. All that I ask if you can 05SRT4 is make this a complete square please instead of the outline of the cabinet to give a little room for error and flip the side art and have midway going the right way cause not sure how you did it. So do 1 with a complete square with bolts and another complete square without the bolts and finally it seems that MK1 side art is finished after the Midway logo is flipped!

Go over every detail of the artwork before we call it quits.
AWESOME work 05SRT4!
Cya around! :applaud:

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/8HWVGED8SZ/Left_Side_DarkerEDITEDlightJohnny.jpg.html (http://www.fileswap.com/dl/8HWVGED8SZ/Left_Side_DarkerEDITEDlightJohnny.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 19, 2012, 10:21:59 am
Alright I'll upload both sides at the same time when I'm finished. Having some difficulty with johnny though. Not sure why he came out so dark compared to the rest of the artwork. The dragon and stuff looks fantastic compared to johnny.

BTW MK3FAN I'm gonna be starting a Killer Instinct restore here soon. Got a universal chassis on the way for a 25" tv tube where a couple of convergence rings were bumped by me because the factory for some odd reason didn't glue them down. This is going to be a lot of work. Going to be doing a video before I start.


Cool. If you need any help, let me know. I am doing a Tube swap on the MK2 I got recently from ctozzi and I plan on doing a video of how to do the convergence and explaining what it is/does.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 19, 2012, 10:23:57 am
Ok I stayed up the whole freaking time working on this and my girlfriend is going to kill me. lol
Anyways. I did all of the finishing touches. Here's what I did.
I made johnny's red cloth a little lighter to match Mike's arcade art, I lightened up all the flesh tones which took most of the time actually, did a few touch ups where the crosshatch slipped past 05SRT4 and that seems about it. All that I ask if you can 05SRT4 is make this a complete square please instead of the outline of the cabinet to give a little room for error and flip the side art and have midway going the right way cause not sure how you did it. So do 1 with a complete square with bolts and another complete square without the bolts and finally it seems that MK1 side art is finished after the Midway logo is flipped!

Go over every detail of the artwork before we call it quits.
AWESOME work 05SRT4!
Cya around! :applaud:

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/8HWVGED8SZ/Left_Side_DarkerEDITEDlightJohnny.jpg.html (http://www.fileswap.com/dl/8HWVGED8SZ/Left_Side_DarkerEDITEDlightJohnny.jpg.html)



Awesome. Many thanks to everyone. Only problem is I can't download the file right now due to limited bandwidth and having to use a government computer. I'll have to wait until I am home in a week to check it out.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 19, 2012, 11:15:23 am
I posted this over on KLOV as well and would like to help with this project
theres still some work that needs to be done to this to make it more true to the original
The "graident" is not only wrong, FYI "graidents" dont always print correctly as you see them and the orginal was a halftone print that pretty much went from top to bottom
from about 90% at the top to about 10% at the bottom
not to pick but heres a quick comparison
original scan in the center latest "cleanup" on the right
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKartprobs.jpg)

the cabinet background art should be a seperate vectored layer
with the proper halftones and a bleed added to the the cabinet shape for an easier install since it will be impossible to fit it exactly.

A few other small issues Midway logo is crooked, and the MK logo isnt a perfect circle
its a little stretched out of shape and the monitor bolts should really be removed

So no time is wasted on whats allready been done
Do you have the laest CLEANED UP version of just Johnny and the Dragon without the cabinet?
the one I show on the left is from one of the posted stages of cleanup before the "gradient" was added.

and silkscreened control panel box art will be finished VERY soon.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 19, 2012, 12:56:39 pm
When making the new document with johnny cut out what should I make the bit? 8 or 16? Trust me I also want this perfect because I have a faded and gouge MK1 cabinet that needs artwork on top of that I would much rather have a screen print than any inkjet! Pretty much why I've been looking for the Killer Instinct side art to get it screen printed for my full KI restore. Waiting on the parts. Only thing holding me up is finding the artwork to get it screen printed. :P
Anyways I ASSumed that "midway" was straight as it's something done in the earlier stages as you know.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 19, 2012, 05:14:52 pm
just to claify Im only offering to solvent inkjet the sideart the screening Im doing is for the cp box.

Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 19, 2012, 05:23:39 pm
That's fine. Which do you like personally? Inkjet or screen printing? Quality and look wise.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 19, 2012, 05:28:26 pm
its apples and oranges
I do both and obviously would prefer screening whenever avaiable or possible.
in this case screening MK sideart would take ALOT of additioal work in halftones and color seperations
and would have to be done in a large enough qty to justify all these costs and time.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on February 20, 2012, 09:46:19 am
I'd like to be the first to purchase some sideart from you if you get it all fixed and ready. I only need the side where Johnny faces to the right. That's the side of my cabinet where he's all scratched up. The side of my cabinet in the pic above is pristine.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on February 20, 2012, 08:20:07 pm
I will be purchasing a set once these are done as well, thanks for all the work to the multiple members who are working on this.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 20, 2012, 09:57:58 pm
Yup np. Couldn't have done it without the scans. Thank ctozzi for taking the time out of his day to do it.

Does anyone know how to do the halftone for the gradient background? I can't seem to get it right.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 21, 2012, 02:46:47 pm
halftones are generally generated in the screening process when making the films.
coming from using a greyscale image the grey shades are converted in to the halftone dots when outputting the films

so for graphic work like this Ill be using an ilustrator plugin called phantasm to emulate that.
which is why I suggested having the cabinet in a vector layer  with the added cabinet bleed.


you can also create a pattern of an area of dots and do a raster fill from that pattern block in most programs
But alittle more time consuming and harder to create a dot pattern that changes this way.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 21, 2012, 03:57:08 pm
I see. I'm not familiar with vector layers. :'( I just did the background as a gradient. As for the outline of the cabinet I wasn't sure how to "add" to the outline of the cabinet and did the gradient and then just do the outline where you wanted it as I didn't know how much more should be added. However I did make the canvas a little larger to give some leeway with the spot where johnny's leg is extended the most. As is it would have been a perfect fit and no room to tuck it under the t-molding. I then moved johnny and the dragon back to where he originally was by measurement of the original document as well as the midway logo and the registered trademark logo. I straightened up all the letters so they are perfectly straight and I finally fixed the white outline of the dragon at the top of the art. The only thing that would need done on your end is pretty much the vector layer, bolts, and the outline of the cabinet and flipped and I guess it should be done.
And lastly as for the gradient I scanned the very bottom of my unfaded side art as well as the very top and used those colors for the gradient. It doesn't seem like the right colors right now but my guess with the halftone done it will look a lot better. I am no expert and won't act like one. lol I'm learning and figuring it out on my own because my MK1 side art looks like crap ;D
I want a screened cp art from you too. lol Can't get much better than that! Do you know when the CP front and sides will be done? I can't wait to see pictures!

(http://vvcap.net/db/GTOo15sbivylcB9p8Xqz.png)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 24, 2012, 02:58:20 pm
First set of cabinet vectors with the halftone and cabinet bleed (aprox 1")
will need to to a test print to see how it looks of both the cabinet and a seperate Test print of Johnny to see what if any color correction or adjustments may be needed before assembly.
Hard to show in low rez but
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKsample1.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKsample3.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKsample2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 24, 2012, 03:14:23 pm
Very nice. I've been trying to upload this thing to how many different places for the last 4 days or so so I can give it to you but it keeps failing. The lighter red part you have with the halftone seems to be a little off from the original. Not sure if you can change that or not. The top looks perfect though. I looked very close to my arcade machine and it seems half way through the halftone changes up. Here is a sample of the halftone from 1 of my unfaded scans with an idea of the halftone. (http://vvcap.net/db/lVcST_k8WVVnyGVrc1ve.png)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 24, 2012, 03:37:15 pm
not really sure what Im looking at here but FYI "onscreen" colors have very little to do with printed output
for example the screenshot I posted is the same red I did the test prints of on the cp art previously posted.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 24, 2012, 03:38:47 pm
The halftone. The dots will prob be so small it would be hard to tell from a distance. Didn't mean anything discrectful. Hope you didn't take it the wrong way.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 24, 2012, 04:48:31 pm
no not all
but really cant see what your talking about in that scan :dunno

Heres the breakdown of how it was orginally printed
Red 1 (cabinet red and Johnny sash) This was solid red with all white and colored areas knockout
then print colors Yellow, Tan, Blue, Red2(more of an orange red used in the halftone of the dragon
Dragon tounge, etc. then the final screened color was black which included the halfone on the cabinet and all other black art detail

Its important to know how it was printed even when inkjetting
this helps color matching and other details in the final print.
Now you know and knowing is half the battle  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on February 24, 2012, 07:57:23 pm
no not all
but really cant see what your talking about in that scan :dunno

Heres the breakdown of how it was orginally printed
Red 1 (cabinet red and Johnny sash) This was solid red with all white and colored areas knockout
then print colors Yellow, Tan, Blue, Red2(more of an orange red used in the halftone of the dragon
Dragon tounge, etc. then the final screened color was black which included the halfone on the cabinet and all other black art detail

Its important to know how it was printed even when inkjetting
this helps color matching and other details in the final print.
Now you know and knowing is half the battle  :cheers:

"G.I. JOE!"  Lol!  I say that all the time to the wife and she just looks at me like, "What an idiot..."  Guess you had to be a fan of the cartoon in the eighties to have this stuck in your head... :)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 24, 2012, 11:48:13 pm
Ya I was born in 86 so I didn't come up in all the awesome arcade days and GI Joe cartoon. Although there were still some good shows and arcades prob nothing like back then. I'll personally never know. :'(
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 29, 2012, 03:45:56 pm
ok reassembled the elements and loading for test print.
These test prints are pricey and wont be doing many.
but will need to see what the colors look like and how the elemnts all come together.
So what we have now
-Vectored cabinet with halftone with aprox 1-2" bleed off
-Vectored Midway Text logo for a cleaner look
-Vectored dragon logo
-Cleanedup up Johnny raster with bolt holes removed.

stay tooned...
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKscreenshot.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 29, 2012, 04:00:29 pm
OO I wish I could make it bigger! LMAO Well it looks great from what I can tell! Good luck on the test print!
Did you add 1-2" bleed on the back of the artwork? If the back didn't have a bleed it would be easier to align the artwork right?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on February 29, 2012, 05:30:15 pm
Can't wait to see a test print!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 29, 2012, 07:24:22 pm
You ain't the only one. You know how hard it was to lighten up Mr. Cage? LMAO
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 29, 2012, 07:56:15 pm
OO I wish I could make it bigger! LMAO Well it looks great from what I can tell! Good luck on the test print!
Did you add 1-2" bleed on the back of the artwork? If the back didn't have a bleed it would be easier to align the artwork right?

Yes back to
you really dont want something this big to start getting off while your applying it  ;)

test print finished and will post pics shortly
The details and colors (which I tweaked even more) look real good and pleased with the results
The cabinet halftone needs some work dot size is double what it should be  :banghead:



Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 29, 2012, 08:18:35 pm
Ouch. Can't wait. Good luck with the test prints man.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 29, 2012, 09:22:14 pm
The first test print ran @60% size mainly for checking details and color.
need to rework the halftone dot size alittle but outside that so far so good


(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MK1.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MK2.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MK3.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MK4.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on February 29, 2012, 09:27:05 pm
WOW the prints look great.

Is it me or does it look like there are lines on the dragoon? Is that from the printer or is it just from the file.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on February 29, 2012, 09:34:43 pm
yeah there are. Not a big deal usally happens when raster images are scaled down and rotated in print
Once it goes full size print it'll will be fine
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on February 29, 2012, 09:54:59 pm
Wow it looks awesome! I see what you mean with the halftone. Like the dots are bigger than they should be? I think the color of Johnny looks great now!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on February 29, 2012, 11:58:52 pm
OMG!  This is looking wonderful!  If you get this spot on, people are not going to be able to tell a restored cab from an original, lol!  Excellent man!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 01, 2012, 12:22:15 am
 ;D You know the 2 things that did catch my eye was the weird color on his stomach and the colors on his chin and cheek. And I never could get the orange on the dragon tail that was faded.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 01, 2012, 09:22:07 pm
With the halftone corrections you are making, will that make the upper cabinet area more maroon/red like the original? And I am not sure if its the picture but johnny's ear and face on the wrinkles/expression have a red color to it that i do not see in the original. This is probably to picky.  Everything to me looks excellent except for the top of the cabinet. Anyways, great work, these are definitely coming out fantastic
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 02, 2012, 11:08:00 am
With the halftone corrections you are making, will that make the upper cabinet area more maroon/red like the original? And I am not sure if its the picture but johnny's ear and face on the wrinkles/expression have a red color to it that i do not see in the original. This is probably to picky.  Everything to me looks excellent except for the top of the cabinet. Anyways, great work, these are definitely coming out fantastic

The red looks darker in person the camera and the white vinyl make it look brighter than it really is and yes correctly the halftone will make it appear darker as well.

odd on that again in person it dosnt look nearky as RED as it does in the pics but not as tan as it should be either.
I darkened up those areas alittle and will try result on next test.

 ??? Top of the cabinet? or are you just refering to the color issue in Johnnys face?

working on correcting the halftone now hopefully will have something to show this weekend.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 02, 2012, 11:53:59 am
With the halftone corrections you are making, will that make the upper cabinet area more maroon/red like the original? And I am not sure if its the picture but johnny's ear and face on the wrinkles/expression have a red color to it that i do not see in the original. This is probably to picky.  Everything to me looks excellent except for the top of the cabinet. Anyways, great work, these are definitely coming out fantastic

The red looks darker in person the camera and the white vinyl make it look brighter than it really is and yes correctly the halftone will make it appear darker as well.

odd on that again in person it dosnt look nearky as RED as it does in the pics but not as tan as it should be either.
I darkened up those areas alittle and will try result on next test.

 ??? Top of the cabinet? or are you just refering to the color issue in Johnnys face?

working on correcting the halftone now hopefully will have something to show this weekend.

Sorry, I was making it confusing. The top of the cabinet I was referring really to how dark black it is. On the original with the halftone the top of the cabinet is still a dark maroon/red color and not black
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 02, 2012, 12:17:37 pm
I gotcha.  But find that very hard to believe.
Knowing how this was orginally printed and looking at the orginal scan
the halftone pattern changes from top to bottom but its part of the same screen when it was orginally printed 1 print color
over the red. So unless your saying its marron from top to bottom its not possible.
but without having a piece of that art on hand I cant say for sure but the majority of this scan tells me its just a Black halftone.
and the small bit of red underneath the "heavier" sections of halftoning may give you the illusion of a darker red.
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKtop.jpg)
The orginal scan was pretty faded at the top  almost white underneath but you can see some overlap in the midway text
which is why those letters look so "rough."

All orginal prints that contained RED pigment in them have all faded. Red is alwsys the first color to go
thats why MsPac pinks are so faded and Tapper sideart turns green. (you need red to make brown).

Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 02, 2012, 02:16:39 pm
What I am seeing on my cab on the non faded side compared to the pictures of your print is it looks like there are more of the red "dots" packed closer together in the top area, making it not appear as black but a dark red color. Hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on March 02, 2012, 09:44:44 pm
I think I am seeing that as well (not the print expert you are rikitiki), but as cnhartwel said, for instance if you counted how many red dots are from the split in the dragon's tail to the white outer ring of the dragon medallion (counting in 1 straight line), I count about 38 red dots until you hit the white ring.  (I guess the dot size has everything to do with this.)  Here's some example pics:

Dots at dragon symbol:

(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/TorreyG/MK1%20Arcade%20Art/DSCN9316cropped.jpg)


Dots at "Registered" symbol:

(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/TorreyG/MK1%20Arcade%20Art/DSCN9310.jpg)


Dots at the "I" and "D" in "MIDWAY":

(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/TorreyG/MK1%20Arcade%20Art/DSCN9309.jpg)


Where halftone changes from RED to BLACK dots it looks like squares briefly:

(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/TorreyG/MK1%20Arcade%20Art/DSCN9311.jpg)


Just trying to be helpful.  Sorry if the colors aren't quite right.  I scaled the last 3 images, so it changed colors a bit.   :)


Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 02, 2012, 11:21:06 pm
It's definitely not black. I'm 100% sure of this. Here is a scan of my unfaded side art.
Right click > view image
(http://oi40.tinypic.com/dbqsua.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 03, 2012, 12:18:45 pm
I still dont see why you dont think its black  ???
the red was orginally printed all solid from top to bottom and was proably the first color to go down
 knocking out any aeras in white this would include behind Johnny The MK circle logo and text
The red you see from off regestration under the black confirms this
But regardless the black print final color wouldve contained ALL halftones, stiple detail in Johnny and all solid outlines in one screen setup. I can see this in the scan where the solid black outlines connect with the black halftone
and you can see the "bump" from the spot colors underneath both yellow and red

I did a test print of the bottom from the raw scan to confirm dot size at the bottom.
new print on top scan on bottom
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_2937b.jpg)

can you upload that scan for me? asuming its full scale Ill do a raw test print the original scan is missing most of the red.
just to be sure Im not missing/seeing something. showing these tiny dot details on screen dosnt really do it justice.

Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 12:50:25 pm
Ya I'll upload the scan for you. I was just saying it didn't seem like solid black from the screen shot I seen of yours but since it was low quality I'm not sure if you had it solid black or not. To me what it seems like it was the solid red all the way through and they put a light layer of black over the red letting the red poke through giving it that maroon color and packing in the halftone the higher it got. It's what it looks like at least but I also have to mention this. It seems that there were a few different places doing the screen prints because MKFan4Life's halftone looks different from my cabinet halftone. I'm also attaching some pictures of the halftone up close on my faded side to see the halftone better.

It appears that if you kept the halftone on the underneath of dragon with the white boarder around it it may be good? But instead of it fading to straight black the halftone is packed together more. And I def see dark red poking through on my cab where you have black. Like it was translucent black if that exists?
And the bottom half of the cab the halftone dots are very tiny.
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MK4.jpg)
It's just so hard to explain in words ya know?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 03, 2012, 01:44:12 pm
right Im following you thats the other reason for checking a raw print of your scan
but the halftone in my print does need work and that will be corrected as well.
and halftone is entire cab no solid at the top.

as far as differences comparing 1 side to the same side of another cab is one thing
but you cant really compare both sides.
Its totally possible they were done by different companies as Im not aware of Midways history
but I dont think thats the case. Screening in general will yeild different results in prints from one to the next
looking at the raw scan the halftones dry up, they bleed, breakapart, etc. during the run
and really NO 2 prints of any SILKSCREEN are the identical.
when it was time to do the flip side new screens, new art, new setups would yield different results
even with the same screenprinter.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 02:00:18 pm
right Im following you thats the other reason for checking a raw print of your scan
but the halftone in my print does need work and that will be corrected as well.
and halftone is entire cab no solid at the top.

as far as differences comparing 1 side to the same side of another cab is one thing
but you cant really compare both sides.
Its totally possible they were done by different companies as Im not aware of Midways history
but I dont think thats the case. Screening in general will yeild different results in prints from one to the next
looking at the raw scan the halftones dry up, they bleed, breakapart, etc. during the run
and really NO 2 prints of any SILKSCREEN are the identical.
when it was time to do the flip side new screens, new art, new setups would yield different results
even with the same screenprinter.


I ended up editing my post above your last one so make sure to check it out. But ya I see what you mean. I also seen in a video of how they get it on the wood. Looked like a hydraulic press was used for applying it to the wood for it to adhere better. And it looks like they then cut the wood out with the artwork already applied. Think it's done differently now though?
Sorry for going off topic.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 03, 2012, 02:03:01 pm
Only thing I can say for sure is that looking at my non faded side in person, the perceived color when looking at the top of the cabinet is a dark red. I think the only reason that it appears that way is because there are more of the red dots packed in tighter together than what your first print looked like. and maybe I was making it more confusing than it is, I know the actual red color is not changing its just the size of the dots changing. I am not a print master or anything, the difference is either the size of red dots on there are more of them on an original cabinet which makes the color not seem black at the top. These are so close to being perfect so I hope I am not being ridiculously picky. I will say all the work you are doing is amazing and thank you because I will be purchasing a set when you are finished.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 02:05:34 pm
@ cnhartwel
Do you see ANY red poking through at all thought where he has black at the top in the halftone on your cab or is it straight black?
A good picture if you can may help.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 03, 2012, 02:15:13 pm
My cab looks identical to MKFan4life. There is not one spot going all the way to the top of the cabinet that is straight black. All the way to the top their are red dots. Compared to the test print, the only thing I can see different is the test has fewer of these red dots and the size might be a little off. Also, on the original cabinet the fade from the bottom to the top never gets to straight black with no red.   Hope that makes sense

comparing MKFan4life's dragon medallion image to the test print dragon medallion illustrates this. There are more red dots packed together and that is the difference that I am seeing

If I had the ability to scan a section of my cabinet to show this I would do that, unfortunately I do not.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 02:24:58 pm
My cab looks identical to MKFan4life. There is not one spot going all the way to the top of the cabinet that is straight black. All the way to the top their are red dots. Compared to the test print, the only thing I can see different is the test has fewer of these red dots and the size might be a little off. Also, on the original cabinet the fade from the bottom to the top never gets to straight black with no red.   Hope that makes sense
Right but what I was asking was at the top in between the red dots where he has black is there a darker red poking through or is it black?
(http://vvcap.net/db/zblbu-4G6TVW_SICeiiO.png)

Not to mention the white border around the dragon is too thick and close to the dragon tail which makes me think that was edited after out of my hands. The white border is half the thickness of the black border. Not even half it seems.

(http://vvcap.net/db/WLZDzVSfyo8o9B37jWug.png)

Here is the white border version I sent with measurements where the old border used to be.
(http://vvcap.net/db/yLhfK1FwksHMm7CnRjHz.png)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 03, 2012, 02:37:37 pm
My fault, definitely misunderstood you. Checking the cabinet up close and personal, It does appear the black is more of a dark red or there is some coming through but Im really not sure if thats my eyes playing tricks, Not fully understanding the print process is probably causing that.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 02:39:47 pm
My fault, definitely misunderstood you. Checking the cabinet up close and personal, It does appear the black is more of a dark red or there is some coming through but Im really not sure if thats my eyes playing tricks, Not fully understanding the print process is probably causing that.

It's almost as if it's the same red underneath but in the part I pointed out seems like there is a translucent black over the red to give it that dark maroon right?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 03, 2012, 02:50:43 pm
My fault, definitely misunderstood you. Checking the cabinet up close and personal, It does appear the black is more of a dark red or there is some coming through but Im really not sure if thats my eyes playing tricks, Not fully understanding the print process is probably causing that.

It's almost as if it's the same red underneath but in the part I pointed out seems like there is a translucent black over the red to give it that dark maroon right?

yeah It does. Need to go buy a scanner or something so we can get this perfect
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 02:55:01 pm
Ya might as well get it perfect while it's almost done. Just buy the scanner and take it back to get your money. lol No use in giving up now!  ;D
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 03, 2012, 03:06:04 pm
A scanner is not nessasary.
Im doing a test print of the raw scan to have for dot comparison on the new print.
what you are seeing is both the mix of red dots and blk dots giving you the illusion of a dk red/marron.
the black used for the halftone could be whats called process black which makes it a little more transparent
than a typical  solid black print so you might even be seeing some of that red bleeding through that black.

The isssue with the circle. Ill look closer at this. not a big deal to fix
the problem is for 2 reasons, one the scan wasnt true so it wasnt a true circle to begin with.
which because of that a  better cleaner vectored version of that logo was made to replace it.
The Cleaned up/Johnny knockout  was resampled and had to be put back to its orginal size and because of that
it may not be exactly as it was, pixel to  pixel.
 but it most liekly wasnt 100% correct to begin with seeings how the text wasnt straight, the logo wasnt circle etc.
Id have to assume there were slight discripinsies throughout the intinial scan.


Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 03:27:33 pm
A scanner is not nessasary.
Im doing a test print of the raw scan to have for dot comparison on the new print.
what you are seeing is both the mix of red dots and blk dots giving you the illusion of a dk red/marron.
the black used for the halftone could be whats called process black which makes it a little more transparent
than a typical  solid black print so you might even be seeing some of that red bleeding through that black.

The isssue with the circle. Ill look closer at this. not a big deal to fix
the problem is for 2 reasons, one the scan wasnt true so it wasnt a true circle to begin with.
which because of that a  better cleaner vectored version of that logo was made to replace it.
The Cleaned up/Johnny knockout  was resampled and had to be put back to its orginal size and because of that
it may not be exactly as it was, pixel to  pixel.
 but it most liekly wasnt 100% correct to begin with seeings how the text wasnt straight, the logo wasnt circle etc.
Id have to assume there were slight discripinsies throughout the intinial scan.




True. MY scan was straight although the halftone doesn't seem right but the outer right edge of the halftone where you can see it clearly. Idk if it was because I was shaking or my scanner sucks even more than my shaking. Which is very much possible! It was only 100 bucks. I'm going to take an actual picture with a measuring tape for you of the dragon. Give me a minute.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 03:36:45 pm
Ok so the black border around the dragon is 1/4" and the white border around it is 1/8"
Tape was a little crooked that's why it looks "off" Kind hard holding a tape and angling the camera right. lol
While I'm at it it seems the halftone dots towards the top are 1/16" apart.

(http://www.shotpix.com/images/64821439141696040862.jpg)

Btw by looking at this pic. Look how they didn't line it up right where the R is.
(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/TorreyG/MK1%20Arcade%20Art/DSCN9310.jpg)

In the loop of the R it's a black halftone over a WHITE background and since they didn't line it up they tried to put a red color on the black halftone and got it in the white of the R.

Which makes me "think" they put black halftone over a white background. Then it seems they tried putting a light red over the black & white halftone to give it that darker maroon color and fill the white dots in with red all in 1 pass. I just don't understand how they got it lighter the lower it went on the cabinet. Prob has a lot to do with the black halftone. Maybe that's why the gradient changes halfway through the artwork having to do with the changing of the dots and squares in the halftone.? They had a red base with black squares on the bottom then when it starts getting darker they used a halftone that's pretty much the opposite if the bottom on the white background That Has to be how they did it.. So it also seems for the white parts like the lettering at the top they just pretty much edited out the halftone to make the lettering and maybe went over that spot with white paint because there is no halftone I can see at all in the lettering


I know it sounds confusing and I prob explained it horribly.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 03, 2012, 04:56:53 pm
so whats the diameter of either circle? black or white?
I could only guess from the scan but did 7 1/2 on the white
and your right its currently double @1/4"

But its not really important at this point for the repro.
but there is no "white paint" the vinyl is white
and red was 100% screened under the black.

look at it this way if the red went ontop of the black your faded side wouldnt be white under the black
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 05:15:09 pm
My faded side where it gets darker isn't white and it's severely faded. The bottom is though where there is different halftones. For the dragon give me a little and I get the measurements. I got company over. I understand there are more important things than a white border. Figured I'd point it out while I remembered because my memory isn't that great.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 03, 2012, 08:30:43 pm
no good catch. thats important.
I was referring to the print order really. kinda irelevent for inkjet printing.

the test print of the scan dosnt show my much its not that good detail
but the Logo is 7 1/4" tall and 7 5/8" wide (white circle)
so once thats confirmed Ill make those adjustments along with the border thickness :cheers:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 03, 2012, 09:24:32 pm
Thanks. Ya my scanner sucks. I'm gonna confirm those measurements because my scanner is garbage and was resizing the scans for no reason at all.

Ok Of the white border I have 7 1/4" all the way around
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on March 04, 2012, 01:10:02 am
Might be confused about this, but I also thought that it was all black near the top with the red dots being all that was causing it to appear otherwise, but then I saw this that makes it apparent that the background is NOT really completely black.  Looks like black by the registered symbol and at the back edge of the cabinet (appears to be a guideline for where to cut the art or cab if they applied art then cut wood as I think was mentioned).  What do you guys think?

Check the arrows:

(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/TorreyG/MK1%20Arcade%20Art/DSCN9310BlackPointedOut.jpg)


BTW:  Posted this reply before I saw all the posts on page 3 of this topic, lol.  Didn't know we had a third page already, so didn't see RejectedManiac's post 5 replies up from here.  Think I'll hush since I am in over my head with the screening techniques!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 04, 2012, 02:31:26 am
No need to hush. If you want to say something say it. That's what I'm doing at least. lol I don't know the whole process of screen printing either but just saying what it looks like to me. Who knows maybe some things have changed in screen printing due to technology. I know computerized stuff like negatives, photoshop, etc..

BTW not to go off topic again but here is the process. Wonder how many of these little shops there were making these arcade machines. My Mortal Kombat 1 has a piece of another arcade machine inside they must have messed up on and used for scrap. 1 thing is for sure is that they weren't just making for atari! I see killer Instinct 1 side art on the wall! Maybe we should find them and just ask for mortal kombat 1  ::) SF RUSH ASSEMBLY ATARI GAMES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0XEvyDwnkQ#)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: Necroticart on March 04, 2012, 03:12:47 am
Glad to see this is being worked on. I have given rikitiki a link to the original unaltered scans to help get the correct halftone size. A lot of work has gone into these files here is a reminder of how they looked when I got a hold of them from phalcon_2600.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 04, 2012, 03:17:44 am
Idt were ever gonna give up  ;D
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 06, 2012, 04:46:27 pm
halftones are just about there. Did another small test today jst halftone print a couple inches at top and a few at the bottom
still needs a little dialing in to get it the way goldilocks likes
just right  :o
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: SNAAKE on March 06, 2012, 05:28:35 pm
what is that nailgun thingy they are using??
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 06, 2012, 06:09:39 pm
what is that nailgun thingy they are using??

is this a trick question?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on March 06, 2012, 06:40:55 pm
what is that nailgun thingy they are using??

I believe its a nail gun thingy.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on March 06, 2012, 07:38:11 pm
Lol!  Finish nailer?  I can't figure out why the one the guy has is taped all the heck up.  Oh, sorry, off-topic commenting.  Hope to see the latest examples of the art soon rikitiki!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 06, 2012, 07:58:10 pm
I can't wait for more pictures! I hope people will appreciate the work we are doing as a team when they buy them. I really do...

@MKFan4Life Looks to me like a staple gun that they are using. My arcade machines have the staples anyways.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 12, 2012, 05:14:55 pm
The Halftones are done and pretty happy with how they turned out.
The file is getting HUGE and taking alot of time to process and render into the final print file.
Look for final test print pics hopefully sometime tommorrow.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on March 12, 2012, 05:26:25 pm
The Halftones are done and pretty happy with how they turned out.
The file is getting HUGE and taking alot of time to process and render into the final print file.
Look for final test print pics hopefully sometime tommorrow.  :cheers:

We're all anxious to see the finished images.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 12, 2012, 05:32:27 pm
YAY!!!! I am so ready! Got my sander, paint, & roller ready to go! Will you give instructions on applying the side art correctly? Also do you suggest paint to adhere better? I was told no waxes and silicones. I got Krylon Color Creations Acrylic Latex enamel (Satin Black). I called the company on the can and they said it has neither of those.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 14, 2012, 01:44:57 pm
yes you should paint or prime the cab
I usally just prime oil based Kiltz and call it a day.

but either way the paint or prime will not only give the vinyl a better stick ot will also help show
imperfections in the wood that might need to be fixed before applying.

Ill actually be doing a tutorial soon on full coverage side art that will help
heres one I did on a cockpit.

http://www.coinopspace.com/profiles/blogs/the-art-dr-makes-a-house-call (http://www.coinopspace.com/profiles/blogs/the-art-dr-makes-a-house-call)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 14, 2012, 02:09:02 pm
A FINAL FULL SIZED TEST PRINT IS RUNNING NOW!!

A couple of quick technical notes: creating basically a 3ftx 6ft halftone uses ALOT of memory.
and once I had the halftone nailed and test printed the file was too large to combined with Johnny/Dragon  ???
the vector itself was about 800mb but with so many objects there wasnt enough memory even w/12gigs of ram
to assemble it all.
So the halftone layer was rastered @1200 dpi and then layered with the other objects.
The file still takes about an hour to load/process into the rip and the print itself so far has been about an hour
and has only printed about a foot.  :o

This is on the highest quailty settings and @ full scale
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3013b.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 14, 2012, 02:33:19 pm
Awesome man! I can't wait! Thanks for the link. Checking it out while discharging my monitor. I came home from my girlfriends grandfathers funeral to find my width caps in the mail as well as this post. It's making me feel a whole lot better now  :'(
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 14, 2012, 03:29:20 pm
3 1/2 hours and counting
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3015b.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 14, 2012, 04:10:48 pm
Jesus christ that is long! And by god does that look sexy!

Not to mention I just fixed my width problem on my monitor!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 14, 2012, 04:26:19 pm
Final time for 1 side 3hrs 49min and I think Im stickin a fork in this and calling this one done. :cheers:
Ill be adding it to the site hopefully later today.
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3016b.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3016c.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3017b.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3020b.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3022b.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3025b.jpg)



Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 14, 2012, 04:45:40 pm
OMFG! IT LOOKS AMAZING! I LOVE IT!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: cnhartwel on March 14, 2012, 09:22:38 pm
looks like it turned out fantastic. A job well done.

do these fit exactly with no overlap on the sides? or is there some room to fold over the edge and possible place the t-molding on top to avoid it scraping off somehow?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on March 14, 2012, 09:37:43 pm
3 1/2 hours and counting
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/IMG_3015b.jpg)

 :o

I just peed a little... 

 :embarassed:

 :notworthy:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 15, 2012, 11:25:26 am
looks like it turned out fantastic. A job well done.

do these fit exactly with no overlap on the sides? or is there some room to fold over the edge and possible place the t-molding on top to avoid it scraping off somehow?

theres aprox 1" bleed of art all around cabinet and about 2-3" at the bottom.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on March 15, 2012, 11:29:48 am
Very cool, everyone's hard work is paying off!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 16, 2012, 01:04:02 pm
Ok have added these to my website $200 FREE US SHIP + a FREE MK Tshirt (while supplies/sizes last)
http://www.thisoldgame.com/products/mortal-kombat-side-art (http://www.thisoldgame.com/products/mortal-kombat-side-art)
So you can kick butt and install your new sideart in style  :afro:
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/sc_images/MKfull.jpg)

Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 16, 2012, 01:22:04 pm
LMFAO! How cool is that! Idt anyone can pass that up!  :applaud:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 28, 2012, 12:40:20 pm
Hey Rich, there is a problem. I got the art today and it's too big. It does not fit on the dedicated cab. All the dimensions are about 1 inch too big. I'm talking about the artwork itself, not the background. I know you extended the edges 1" to allow for some wraparound, but it looks like the entire image was stretched and not just the background. Make sense?

I'm uploading a video now, but you may have a big problem on your hands with all the people who have ordered already. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 28, 2012, 02:18:31 pm
Somehow Im not suprized by this.
The art has changed hands so many times and was resampled several times before I got it.  :'(

though what is suprizing is I know the MK circle logo is the correct diameter.
so would be hard to imagine the rest of the image being that far off considering how some of that art circles it.
 
On the plus side outside of the set I sent you theres only been 1 set sold.  :o
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 28, 2012, 02:44:02 pm
Somehow Im not suprized by this.
The art has changed hands so many times and was resampled several times before I got it.  :'(

though what is suprizing is I know the MK circle logo is the correct diameter.
so would be hard to imagine the rest of the image being that far off considering how some of that art circles it.
 
On the plus side outside of the set I sent you theres only been 1 set sold.  :o



That's good. There is hope though. I got it to work and look good. There are some issues with parts of the image needing to be cut off in order to have it aligned correctly. I will explain in greater detail in the video I am uploading to my YouTube channel. Here are some before and after pics so you can see how it looks. MANY thanks Rich to the effort you put into this and the time it took to make it look this good.

Now if we can just figure out the dimensions issue, we'd be all set. I wasn't going to use the art, but it was going to be much better than what I had before, so I used it anyway. Turned out great, so thanks again and I'll post the video soon to explain the differences in greater detail...


Before...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2518.jpg).


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2520.jpg)


After...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2537.jpg)


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2562.jpg)


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2561.jpg)


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2560.jpg)


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2559.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 28, 2012, 03:08:55 pm
interresting the cut at Johnny Hair seems about the same.
the obvious are the circle logo and dragon tail hitting too low,
Midway logo off the back, and at the bottom dragons claw looks like it can go up some.
which would probly correct the circle logo issue at the top.

Ill certainly make corrections and send you a new side when you return.

the first question Id have was the cabinet shape, angles, dimension correct?
Outside of being oversized of ciurse.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 28, 2012, 03:15:07 pm
In the video that I am currently uploading, I explain why simply raising the art up a bit won't work. You end up cutting off much more of JC's hair by raising up the image to align the top. The vid should answer any questions. You'll see. It's as good as it can possible be without making it further out of alignment. I can take measurements of everything on the good side of my cab and you can use them to compare and make a new file.

Don't worry about sending me a new side. I'm happy with the way this one turned out and to be quite honest, I don't feel like fighting this bastard again. Stay tuned for the vid and again, thanks for the hard work on this. It's really appreciated.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 28, 2012, 08:38:27 pm
Here is the video if the issues...


Dedicated Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art Application Issues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMzqXYHGRp4#ws)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 28, 2012, 11:06:42 pm
wow thanks for taking the time and shooting that and you are the first and only to recieve this art.

First I only oversized the background cabinet art 1" from the orginal file.
So I can see those dimensions not being correct from the start.
So from that heres what we have.
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKcaboutline.jpg)
as you can see the lines hit about where they should.
So suspect problem #1 is the cab shape/dimensions of the orginal art file since I used that to place in johnny/dragon
and the scan for the logos (midway text/MK circle)
not sure how this entire piece of art was scanned, pieces/stitched or a full bedded scan
but suspected from the beginning it wasnt quite right based on the logo not being a true circle.

That being said this is where it gets alittle strange. where as it appears too big in obvious places, reducing the size
dosnt help move the dragon tail up where it needs to hit based on how you used the monitor holes as placements.

But lets start at the beginning and verifying the cab dimensions.
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKcabdimensions.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 28, 2012, 11:16:11 pm
Ya not to mention right where johnny's hair hits the edge of the cab it looks spot on. I think it's the original scans as well. But while you guys are figuring all that out tomorrow I will try and compare measurements with my cab as well as the original file. My father said don't assume and make an ass out of yourself. Well I assumed the measurements were verified before the thread was already made. I'll let you guys know what I come up with though to try and pinpoint what's wrong.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 29, 2012, 12:26:26 am
These are accurate measurements that I just took from my dedicated MK1. Anyone else please feel free to verify my measurements (in fact it would be recommended), but I double checked and they are all accurate. Let's see how this affects the art.


A = 35.5"

B = 28 5/16"

C = 15.5"

D = 22 5/8"

E = 69"

F = 30"

G = 6 15/16"

H = 72 11/16"


(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKcabdimensions.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 29, 2012, 12:30:33 am
I will verify tomorrow if no one does it first. good night
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 29, 2012, 11:10:42 am
ok so if those are the cab measurements Ive found problem #1
Id like to confirm and get one more. from the bottom of the cab up to the center of the curve.
Its currently at 59 5/8"

So shown here in BLUE is the original scan cab shape
The RED is the 1" bleed tht was added.
The Yellow is the new cab dimensions posted.

It dosnt look like much on the small Jpg but some of those areas were more than an 1" off!  :o

(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKcabcompares.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 29, 2012, 11:16:29 am
So to confirm this I took the new cab shape and applied it to the art as it is
and no suprize pretty much got the same results MK3FAN did on his install.
from the tip of the Midway logo on the left to cutoff on the dragon tail.
Blue Line original cab scan shape Green line is corrected new cab dimensions
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKcabcorrection1.jpg)

I think this is going to be an easy fix and liked how you used the monitor holes as placements guides.
So Id like to get the placements for those.
bottom of cab up and over from the cabinet back.

from that everything should fall into place when I resize Johnny and the dragon.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 29, 2012, 11:26:06 am
Also from his video I would say the spacing of the letters in "Midway" is incorrect. Because of the simple fact that the Y lines up but is just too low but the M is off to the left and too low. I'm trying to figure out where a package is right now because it says out for delivery and it's not with the rest of my mail.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 29, 2012, 12:29:23 pm
yeah exactly!
from the video the Y in Midway is inline but about 1/2" too low
the M is also 1/2" too low but to far to the  left.
the entire scan is out of porportion, and always has been.
I remeber the circle being something like 7 1/8 x 7 1/2" or more IIRC This was before it was seprted and reconstructed.
So basically the same 1/2" differnence your seeing in most of these problem areas

"Squeezing" the art back from the left will/should correct that.

Then its a matter of figuring out the height so the Johnny dosnt move too much due to bolt hole placement
but the tail comes up enough to not get cut off.
The Scans were proably fudged together to make it work and then once completed forced into and or resmaple along the way.
changing the dimensions alittle everytime it was worked on.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 29, 2012, 01:21:30 pm
Yup totally agree! I'm going to start checking these measurements now. I think I'm also going to try and see what the spacing is on the midway while I'm at it to help with the spacing problem and see how far from the back of the cabinet the M is as well as measure how long the dragon is sup to be from top to bottom. Any other measurements while I'm at it?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 29, 2012, 02:06:12 pm
Id like to know from the bottom of the cab up to the cenetr of the curve as I posted above
Moniotr bolt holes from bottom up and from back of cab
should about do it

other points of interst
Like you mentioned from back of cab to M
any edge to graphic point would also help like bottom of cab to dragon toenail,
back of cab to dragon leg, cab edge to Johnny foot, etc.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 29, 2012, 02:56:54 pm
A:35.5"
B:28 9/32" I may be 1/16" off
C:15.5"
D:22 5/8"
E:69"
F:30"
G:7 7/8" I checked and double checked. I measure from where the bend starts coming out of the CP and starts going up the cab. Maybe Mike accidentally measured from the notch that isn't exposed when the CP is on. From what I see I did the part I think you wanted
H:72 11/16"

I'll edit this post with the rest of the measurements after I'm done eating. Keep an eye out.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: Necroticart on March 29, 2012, 03:08:56 pm
The Scans were proably fudged together to make it work and then once completed forced into and or resmaple along the way.
changing the dimensions alittle everytime it was worked on.


Wow, you pretty much nailed what I had to do to get the scans I received fixed enough to worked on. I can confirm I had to warp the image a bit due to the edges not matching up and I used samples of other areas of the art to help make the image seamless. also if none have noticed some areas were recreated in PS here are pics of the stitched up art just to show some of the warping I had to do.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7027458329_16978cdd42_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/7027458329/)
mk-scan-problems-forum (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/7027458329/#) by necroticart (http://www.flickr.com/people/62902699@N03/), on Flickr


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7248/6881359710_11dd6efe08_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/6881359710/)
mk-scan-problems-forum2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/6881359710/#) by necroticart (http://www.flickr.com/people/62902699@N03/), on Flickr


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7178/6881359906_39ccbca6d8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/6881359906/)
mk-scan-problems-forum3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/6881359906/#) by necroticart (http://www.flickr.com/people/62902699@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/7027458783_85c3f6aaf2_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/7027458783/)
mk-scan-problems-forum4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62902699@N03/7027458783/#) by necroticart (http://www.flickr.com/people/62902699@N03/), on Flickr

also I keep all the PSB files if they are needed
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 29, 2012, 03:31:30 pm
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 29, 2012, 03:58:50 pm
Wow. You guys have been busy today. Looks like it's all in good hands. Confident we'll get this resolved and it'll work out better for other people who have been waiting on this. I'm happy with how it turned out on my cab despite the image being off. Plus that side of the cab faces the wall, so not a really big deal.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 29, 2012, 04:01:57 pm

G:7 7/8" I checked and double checked. I measure from where the bend starts coming out of the CP and starts going up the cab. Maybe Mike accidentally measured from the notch that isn't exposed when the CP is on. From what I see I did the part I think you wanted


I removed the CP and measured the distance shown in the diagram. I got 6 15/16". That's the distance of the line on my cab.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 29, 2012, 04:04:13 pm
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?

I didnt know it was going to be wrong. Just dosnt suprize me.
Asuming that the cab/scan was correct was the real mistake.
Since Johhny was put back into it after the BG was recreated.
His size didnt change but because the cab shape was never correct there was really know way to know
untill someone applied it.

And my offer will ALWAYS stand when all is fixed a new side will be sent to MIke
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 29, 2012, 04:06:29 pm
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?

I didnt know it was going to be wrong. Just dosnt suprize me.
Asuming that the cab/scan was correct was the real mistake.
Since Johhny was put back into it after the BG was recreated.
His size didnt change but because the cab shape was never correct there was really know way to know
untill someone applied it.

And my offer will ALWAYS stand when all is fixed a new side will be sent to MIke


No not you Rikitiki, Necroticart. He seen the thread and posted a couple times but never mentioned he did any of that squeezing or anything. Pretty funny. From what Necroticart is saying this is the artwork he worked on before it was even passed to us. He's the one who stitched it together and failed to mention any of those important details.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 29, 2012, 04:09:38 pm
gotcha.
well scanning and stitching this was no easy task
but no worries its fixable.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 29, 2012, 04:17:05 pm


And my offer will ALWAYS stand when all is fixed a new side will be sent to MIke



Thanks Rich. I won't be able to install it or review it until the first week in July as I am off to Afghanistan again a week from tomorrow and I won't be home again until the first week in July.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: Necroticart on March 29, 2012, 04:32:04 pm
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?

I didnt know it was going to be wrong. Just dosnt suprize me.
Asuming that the cab/scan was correct was the real mistake.
Since Johhny was put back into it after the BG was recreated.
His size didnt change but because the cab shape was never correct there was really know way to know
untill someone applied it.

And my offer will ALWAYS stand when all is fixed a new side will be sent to MIke


No not you Rikitiki, Necroticart. He seen the thread and posted a couple times but never mentioned he did any of that squeezing or anything. Pretty funny. From what Necroticart is saying this is the artwork he worked on before it was even passed to us. He's the one who stitched it together and failed to mention any of those important details.

I figured when you guys were pasting cage in the artwork you made the cab the correct size and shrunk and re sized cage to fit sorry i did not volunteer the info earlier I had no way to know if it would fit correctly. If you guys have any questions please feel free to ask
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 29, 2012, 04:51:06 pm
yeah its all good
Necro sent me scans and info as well during this and the differences are minumal.

ideally its best to start with the true cab shape pre drawn either in vector or photoshop
or have the canvas set to the height and width So when stitching something like this togther
your "puzzle pieces" have to fit within those parameters and will keep things alittle truer to size.
Because "fudging" of the art  is nessasary in most cases.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 30, 2012, 11:43:31 am

G:7 7/8" I checked and double checked. I measure from where the bend starts coming out of the CP and starts going up the cab. Maybe Mike accidentally measured from the notch that isn't exposed when the CP is on. From what I see I did the part I think you wanted


I removed the CP and measured the distance shown in the diagram. I got 6 15/16". That's the distance of the line on my cab.
Hmm Mine is a whole inch off then.. ??? Not sure what to think of that.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 30, 2012, 12:10:57 pm
Yeah thats strange. So descripincy on G and also need J recently added
I tried forcing this into the new corrected cab dimensions and got it closer but...
Johnny needs a hair cut :laugh2:

Which could be from these 2 meaurements since they both effect that angle.
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKJ3.jpg)
Checking this further would be to list the following. Now this would mean ALL the art would hit the cabinet shape as original
but the bolt hole may or may not becuase of how the art was put togther. but I can confirm where they will hit the art
if someone can provide the hole placments.

(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKplacements.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on March 30, 2012, 12:23:57 pm
Give me a minute and I'll get the rest of the measurements you asked for. Something is definitely wrong with part of the hair and dragon getting cut off as well as the dragon at the top would be a little further away from the marquee.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on March 30, 2012, 04:59:35 pm
Give me a minute and I'll get the rest of the measurements you asked for. Something is definitely wrong with part of the hair and dragon getting cut off as well as the dragon at the top would be a little further away from the marquee.


I can doublecheck later if you want, but I think here is where we are differing on out "G" measurements...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/SAM_2614.jpg)


Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on March 31, 2012, 01:14:17 pm
Ok that makes sense looking back it dosnt look like that was in the scan\maybe just cutoff or hidden
from the stichin maybe.
proably just need to split that diffentce since it just comes to a point anyway and disnt effect it too much really
But measurement J would really help confirm that angle thats cuttin into Johnny hair
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on April 13, 2012, 12:07:10 pm
Well I took what I had and got Johnny and the dragon to fit within the corrected cab dimension.
I cant guarantee the bolt holes will hit in the same place without further measurements.
But he definatly won't run off the edge.

the blue shown is what the over/bleed will still be.
the cab dimensions have been confirmed and Johnny/Dragon now fit within.

(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKrevised1.jpg)
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKrevised2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on April 15, 2012, 03:14:43 am
Sah-Wheat! I'll be home in July and can't wait to get this new art put on. Thanks for all the time and effort you've put into it. Also many thanks goes to RejectedManiac for his time and effort as well.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: xrodney on April 23, 2012, 05:59:24 am
Hi, will this art be available as a file for the community?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on April 23, 2012, 07:27:34 pm
all rpevious versions, the original scan and some of the cleanup stages are all ready avaiable.
The final version I compliled for actual printing will not.

This is mainly due to the fact that alot of us have put alot of time into this art and it would be unfortante the file ends up in the wrongs hands and exploited on places like ebay for cheap laminated knockoffs by someone who basically did nothing and profit from our love of labor :cheers:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: xrodney on April 24, 2012, 12:48:47 am
I understand. I emailed you and got a reply from Kendra. I sent you a file, and hope you can make something out of it :)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on May 26, 2012, 12:23:53 pm
Just a quick update: Heres a shot I got back of the NEW REVISED art installed.
looks like a perfect fit. So I think Im calling this done.
 :cheers:
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKnewinstall.jpg)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MKFan4Life on May 26, 2012, 11:15:31 pm
Looks sweet!  Great job guys!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: KombatMame on May 28, 2012, 01:34:15 pm
Great work guys!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: Maarten on June 05, 2012, 09:15:14 am
Hello realy nice.

can we download both the files for the MK1?
is something availlable for a Killer Instinct 1 cabinet?

txs in advance

Maarten
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: KombatMame on June 05, 2012, 09:17:57 am
see here:
Quote
all rpevious versions, the original scan and some of the cleanup stages are all ready avaiable.
The final version I compliled for actual printing will not.

This is mainly due to the fact that alot of us have put alot of time into this art and it would be unfortante the file ends up in the wrongs hands and exploited on places like ebay for cheap laminated knockoffs by someone who basically did nothing and profit from our love of labor

you can order this on his website http://www.thisoldgame.com/index.php?search%5Bterms%5D=kombat&search%5Bmode%5D=any (http://www.thisoldgame.com/index.php?search%5Bterms%5D=kombat&search%5Bmode%5D=any)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on June 25, 2012, 07:58:49 pm
Now this just looks freaking amazing! Well done everyone.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on September 07, 2012, 06:10:46 pm
Just a quick update: Heres a shot I got back of the NEW REVISED art installed.
looks like a perfect fit. So I think Im calling this done.
 :cheers:
(http://www.thisoldgame.com/Pics/MKnewinstall.jpg)
I've been trying to get a hold of you to see if you've verified the measurements I gave you and if you were still up for that free copy for doing some work on it?
Sent a PM with no reply.

Brandon
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on September 08, 2012, 03:58:17 pm
sprry brandon hadnt been on for awhile checking PMs now
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on October 26, 2012, 09:55:43 am
Rich,

  I sent another PM saying that I haven't received the side art yet but I haven't gotten a reply from you. Not sure if your not getting my Pm's or what. I put a lot of time and hard work into that side art. I hope your still going to send me a copy as I already stripped the side art off of my cabinet for Mr. Johnny Cage.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: jthomaz on December 03, 2012, 02:47:08 am
Hello guys, i'm doing a 4players cabinet (it is pretty much finished, i'm at painting stage) and for the theme we are going for MK. Street fighter was not so WAF...

I'm missing the side art, the rest i was able to vectorize and modify. I can share my vector files if someone wants them.

For the side art i've got the raster from 05SRT4, and thanks very much for that. I just vectorize it and I think i've got a lot of work in front to me.

If somebody have a vector decent file please share. I'll print it in China (where I live now). Otherwise I'll work on vectorized 05SRT4 raster and try to have an acceptable vector image with the halftones and all. It is not going to be a professional job though.

I could buy the printouts but 200 bucks seems quite a lot to me. I already expended 1700EUR on my cabinet (the 29" monitor costed 300EUR brand new from Weiya).

thanks and bye
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on December 03, 2012, 02:50:49 am
Not sure it can get any better than this. Most collectors are very picky when it comes to artwork as am I. You can post up what you want of course. Not to be mean though not that much quality work comes from china as I also have a friend in Shenzhen who witnesses it firsthand.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: jthomaz on December 03, 2012, 03:16:04 am
Thanks for the reply Manic. You know, in China everything is possible. They can do the worst sometimes but also the best. All the Apple products are manufactured in China these days....
For the moment I've sourced the control panel components and coin door locally (as the monitor, already mentioned). I acquiesce I might be me less demanding on the quality of the printings than an average arcade fan. Time will tell what I'll get.

For now the limitation to the quality are on in my skills on illustrator that are pretty fresh (started 3 days ago).

Have somebody had any success in printing this from jpg?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on December 03, 2012, 03:23:46 am
The final photoshop of this project is not available and you can only buy the finished product from Rich at his website thisoldgame.com

You are right a lot of this stuff is made in China but under strict quality control which I highly doubt compares to a printer there. Even then the name brand stuff from china isn't that great either. If you want high quality work from a guy this has a love for this field then I would just fork out the $200 and call it a day. But if your not worried about your work or the professionalism of the printing go right ahead. Whatever floats your boat. =)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: jthomaz on December 03, 2012, 05:15:26 am
Maybe it is not necessary but i'll do it any way. Of course I meant no prejudice for the printing services you guys of this community work with. I do believe they are probably quite professional and passionate.

Personally I do not value that printout for myself as much as the hardcore fans do.

I'll reproduce myself the vector for the dragon and try to keep johnny's raster. It is going to be a hard process, probably the outcome will not be fantastic, and in the end i might find myself paying more than 200 bucks in China with a "cheaper" product. The discovery will be the prize of my adventure as it has been since the beginning of the arcade journey.

Thank you all guys and I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on December 27, 2012, 01:32:57 pm
 :banghead:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: yotsuya on December 27, 2012, 01:39:43 pm
:banghead:

 :laugh2:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: wojtmul on April 07, 2013, 01:21:15 pm
Hi im new in this forum and i need your help. can u give me a link to mortal kombat 1 high DPI full size for cabinet side art for print. i was serching on this forum but i can't find nothing.
I from poland , in my cuntry this sticker is unavailable
 thanks for help.
Title: AW: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: Endprodukt on April 08, 2013, 05:14:17 am
Get it from thisoldgame.
Title: Re: AW: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: wojtmul on April 08, 2013, 04:30:03 pm
Get it from thisoldgame.

In my cuntry 200$ iść half of month pay j need link for print in Local printhouse
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: The OG MK Tios on November 12, 2014, 06:37:06 am
UPDATED -Darker Fade on Top, Brighter MIDWAY and also Brighter / Changed contrast on dragon and Cage.

Hey guys I finished the Artwork,
It took a minute only because I was using my wife's laptop. It didn't play well with Photoshop and such a large file.

Here are the 2 small samples.
(http://s19.postimage.org/k5jshtsdr/Left_Side_Darker_sml.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k5jshtsdr/) (http://s19.postimage.org/einfkcpv3/Right_Side_Darker_sml.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/einfkcpv3/)
I was able to clean up some of the washing stains mainly around the tail. I tried my best to fix the indents or creasing on the dragons belly. I made the MIDWAY a solid color and changed out the R trademark with a cleaner one. Also went through and cleaned up any small scratches or dents.
To make the other side I just flipped the image and pasted the MIDWAY facing the right way.


These ended up being bigger files then I thought. so the download file is over 160mb I think. I zipped both of them using Winrar. Im new to mediafire so let me now if you have any problems with the download.
http://www.mediafire.com/?kvoimrho8ax1oj6 (http://www.mediafire.com/?kvoimrho8ax1oj6)

Hello iam Sorry to Bother u as well i do apologis eif iam posting in the wrong place since iam Replying to ann old  add is there any way u Can please upload this Files again i have original Mk Cabinet iam Retoring and I ben lookingf or the Correct Mk Side art Files Please SROT
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on November 12, 2014, 09:22:39 am
There is no link to download and won't be one for a long time. You can buy it from thisoldgame.com
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: The OG MK Tios on November 13, 2014, 01:36:16 am
they are going on tht site for $200 is reculous  :angry: i know a place tht willl print both files for $100 i just need the high resolution files please if someone can sende m i would greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: RejectedManiac on November 13, 2014, 04:59:39 am
The amount of work that went into this artwork is rediculous. I'd love to see the price your local print shop would charge for labor and printing and still come out nothing like what is being offered to you. You won't be getting the files any time soon. Plain and simple. If you don't like the price. Don't buy it.
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: 05SRT4 on November 17, 2014, 12:54:14 am
Someone to claim OG MK and and then not appreciate the hard work that went into a game they love. And then freak out about the price, Nice....
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: rikitiki on November 28, 2014, 01:39:03 pm
FWIW I have this sideart on sale 15% off for a limited time
http://www.thisoldgame.com/products/mortal-kombat-side-art (http://www.thisoldgame.com/products/mortal-kombat-side-art)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: frognum on June 17, 2015, 08:52:44 pm
Hello!
I have done the same work described here with Mortal Kombat 2 arcade art ... because the arts offered in all websites have too much black on it, lost the clouds details ...

Here is my work:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/ambas_zpsgwfqvhfj.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/ambas_zpsgwfqvhfj.jpg.html)

Details of halftone on Raiden's face:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/Captura02_zpstov7acvp.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/Captura02_zpstov7acvp.jpg.html)

Making the sideart mk II logo on Illustrator:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/logo_zps10cgfgxb.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/logo_zps10cgfgxb.jpg.html)

The final print:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/FullSizeRender_zpspmjtu6kd.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/FullSizeRender_zpspmjtu6kd.jpg.html)

A detail of the logo:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/FullSizeRender%201_zpshzfxb400.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/FullSizeRender%201_zpshzfxb400.jpg.html)

Besides, I bought a MK4 arcade machine to restore, so, I planned to add all the Mortal Kombat games with a multi jamma adapter. So I had to add a "Run" button to the MK2 control panel:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/Captura%20de%20pantalla%202015-03-12%20a%20las%2021.49.51_zpsvfkevuit.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/Captura%20de%20pantalla%202015-03-12%20a%20las%2021.49.51_zpsvfkevuit.png.html)

The final CPO (above in MK2 style, the second one in MK4 style, i mean, the buttons distance are different in both machines):
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/cpo_antes_despues_zpsmk6negpi.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/cpo_antes_despues_zpsmk6negpi.jpg.html)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on June 18, 2015, 06:32:31 pm
Not bad! But your colors and gradients need to be a bit darker. Should look more like this...

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp120/rewgewrg.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp120/rewgewrg.png.html)


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp120/gngn.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp120/gngn.png.html)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: frognum on June 19, 2015, 07:29:09 am
Thanks!

The red / orange gradient was made that way because the art I downloaded from a website looks like that ... I couldn't compare it with a real machine :(

But It's not a great problem ... anyway, the final print looks awesome!

Now I'm restoring an MK1 cabinet ...
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: xrodney on June 19, 2015, 07:32:55 am
you can share the art?  just for archive purposes
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on June 21, 2015, 01:08:21 am
I've decided to try tackling this a different way. I broke out my handheld scanner and since my machine isn't faded, I'm going to scan it, clean up the files, and see how they turn out. I think this will be a much better final product in the end. That way it will be JUST the logos. I don't want to mess with the entire side art. This whole endeavor was supposed to be just about the logo refreshment anyway. Gotta let my scanner charge but this should turn out great. Stay tuned...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp100/IMG_9770.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp100/IMG_9770.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp100/IMG_9775.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp100/IMG_9775.jpg.html)


Raw scan...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp103/Untitled-1.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp103/Untitled-1.png.html)


This is soooo much better. These will have the 'pattern' in them vs. the other ones don't...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp073/Right%20Side%20Logo%20Final.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp073/Right%20Side%20Logo%20Final.png.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp127/Untitled-1.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp127/Untitled-1.png.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp115/43124.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp115/43124.png.html)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: yotsuya on June 21, 2015, 01:25:41 am
That does look great!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: xrodney on June 21, 2015, 01:26:29 am
Great :)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: frognum on June 22, 2015, 09:01:00 pm
Cool. First time since 1996 that I can see that logo so close ... all the arts available on internet have those halftone points invisible ... my arts were re constructed by memory :)

Now, I'm working on the MK1 CPO art:

Here some details:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/Retrogames/MK1%20Arcade/detalle_mk1_CPO02_zpsxk55qzmt.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/Retrogames/MK1%20Arcade/detalle_mk1_CPO02_zpsxk55qzmt.jpg.html)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/Retrogames/MK1%20Arcade/detalle_mk1_CPO_zpsxo7uya2o.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/Retrogames/MK1%20Arcade/detalle_mk1_CPO_zpsxo7uya2o.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on June 22, 2015, 09:51:53 pm
Cool. First time since 1996 that I can see that logo so close ... all the arts available on internet have those halftone points invisible ... my arts where re constructed by memory :)

Now, I'm working on the MK1 CPO art:

Great job! But your Block black background is way too tall...

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp107/IMG_9785.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp107/IMG_9785.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: frognum on June 22, 2015, 10:52:49 pm
Quote from: MK3FAN
Great job! But your Block black background is way too tall...

Thanks!

Do you have the exact height? (in centimeters, please, I'm from Chile, he he he)

Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: MK3FAN on June 24, 2015, 05:55:28 pm
7.9375 cm (H) x 2.69875 (W)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: alex_bb23 on September 14, 2015, 12:48:56 am
7.9375 cm (H) x 2.69875 (W)
The sizes are fully wrong!
Check this out... http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,147309.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,147309.0.html)
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: frognum on February 22, 2016, 10:20:05 pm
Hello!

After all these months, finally, I could advance on this project:

The arcade with the sidearts applied look this way:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3538_zpsotigfywp.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3538_zpsotigfywp.jpg.html)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3535_zpsc0mj2d4h.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3535_zpsc0mj2d4h.jpg.html)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3532_zpsged6xpl7.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3532_zpsged6xpl7.jpg.html)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc436/draconewt/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3534_zpsvv6rsvfc.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/draconewt/media/MK%20II%20Arcade/_MG_3534_zpsvv6rsvfc.jpg.html)

Thanks for your comments!
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: tomcoleman on February 09, 2017, 07:19:31 am
what are the dimentions of your completed cab?
Title: Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
Post by: pezley on July 22, 2017, 04:07:02 am
I've decided to try tackling this a different way. I broke out my handheld scanner and since my machine isn't faded, I'm going to scan it, clean up the files, and see how they turn out. I think this will be a much better final product in the end. That way it will be JUST the logos. I don't want to mess with the entire side art. This whole endeavor was supposed to be just about the logo refreshment anyway. Gotta let my scanner charge but this should turn out great. Stay tuned...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp100/IMG_9770.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp100/IMG_9770.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp100/IMG_9775.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp100/IMG_9775.jpg.html)


Raw scan...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp103/Untitled-1.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp103/Untitled-1.png.html)


This is soooo much better. These will have the 'pattern' in them vs. the other ones don't...


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp073/Right%20Side%20Logo%20Final.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp073/Right%20Side%20Logo%20Final.png.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp127/Untitled-1.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp127/Untitled-1.png.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/zenomorp/zenomorp115/43124.png) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/zenomorp/media/zenomorp115/43124.png.html)

This is really amazing. Do you have the xomplete side art at all ?Im in need of replacing mine and the ones on google are all rubbish. This machine scan would be perfect