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Main => Project Announcements => Topic started by: severdhed on August 18, 2013, 10:10:53 pm

Title: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: severdhed on August 18, 2013, 10:10:53 pm
I edited the first post to keep the most recent cabinet picture at the top, please look through the rest of the thread to view the build progress.

here is the cabinet as it stands now, ready for the PC to be installed and setup.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KPdFBqtKpXg/Uj-2vEHgXzI/AAAAAAAAC4o/H7quInmQMiA/w680-h510-no/20130922_233042.jpg)

HERE is the original thread
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I started building my new cabinet this weekend.  I sold my 4 player showcase cabinet because it took up too much space, however i really need a 4 player cabinet because by the end of September, i'll have 4 kids.  Right now, only my two oldest ones play the cabinet we have, but i'm sure the other two will join in once they are a little older.  I want to keep the functionality that i had with my other cabinet, but with less space required.  I plan on building a 4 player panel on a pedestal, which i will connect to a 42" LCD tv mounted on the wall.  I accidentally rendered all of the HDMI ports on my wife's tv useless a few weeks ago while doing some electrical work without turning off the breaker. (oops) So, i got her a new one and took the old one for my arcade project, since all of the other inputs still work, including component video and VGA.  I plan on doing this project in two phases...first is the free standing pedestal.  then once that is build and the TV is mounted, i want to build a box to attach to the back with some pipes mounted, to make it look like a complete unit.   Anyway...enough of the boring stuff, here are the pics.

first, here is the sketchup model i made of the pedestal. I never used sketchup before, i had alot of fun learning how to use it.  I may tweak the dimensions of the top of the panel slightly, but this is what i am going with as of right now...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-voxNOpMcLNg/UhF8Gw5elXI/AAAAAAAACnU/jKwv0wCuKgA/w1044-h472-no/24pedestal.jpg)

here is what i want to end up looking like when it is done.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yYsxBhiFq-0/UhF8OJwGEuI/AAAAAAAACns/W5jVJxtibEI/w1044-h472-no/familyRoom.png)

here is the 2x4 base i made

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tgrMFc5vUr8/UhF3vO5j4XI/AAAAAAAAClU/5GPYz97RaQ8/w737-h553-no/IMG_3285.JPG)


sketched out the shape of the cabinet on the MDF. (i bought precut 2ft x 4ft pieces of mdf..it was slightly more expensive than buying full sheets, but much easier to transport in my minivan, and since alot of the dimensions of this cabinet are 24", it makes for much less cutting on my part.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NOSqSrHvFnw/UhF3u57d9nI/AAAAAAAAClQ/MVR4nApZ3-s/w737-h553-no/IMG_3286.JPG)


first side cut out

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EN1OXVjUpB0/UhF3vTBcVOI/AAAAAAAAClY/gGYPnFKIV6Q/w737-h553-no/IMG_3287.JPG)


clamped sides together to run through the flush trim router bit

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kwGA9ykjKVI/UhF3zzdBQeI/AAAAAAAAClo/EH1PJMg8Na0/w737-h553-no/IMG_3288.JPG)


1/2 pine boards screwed and glued to the right side

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w5zmL8uwq60/UhF30uhwUCI/AAAAAAAAClw/MYQCs1scBNI/w737-h553-no/IMG_3289.JPG)


both sides ready to go

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Tq792RAqqBs/UhF30U5fYgI/AAAAAAAACls/uDUdrPJ3lno/w737-h553-no/IMG_3290.JPG)

T-Molding slot cut

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A_RnRS5t1FE/UhF34b_1m7I/AAAAAAAACl4/qprKKpTP060/w737-h553-no/IMG_3291.JPG)


side with base and top brace mounted

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-br5p58oLfLM/UhF37uwSlmI/AAAAAAAACmQ/ZzNMbwrStJQ/w737-h553-no/IMG_3292.JPG)


both sides mounted...it stands on it's own!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Eug91a8t4lA/UhF37EcsM7I/AAAAAAAACmM/LGb5S11pBfw/w737-h553-no/IMG_3293.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ifal18Tx4ZU/UhF39GPGe1I/AAAAAAAACmc/N0_bFghvAEo/w737-h553-no/IMG_3294.JPG)

that is all i got done this weekend, had to dodge some rain, and deal with a sick child for a while.  hopefully I will get some more done shortly.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Assembly Started
Post by: a1pharm on August 19, 2013, 07:42:36 am
Wow, great job being productive over the weekend.  Build looks great, too!

Cheers!
 :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Assembly Started
Post by: BadMouth on August 19, 2013, 03:37:36 pm
Polling suggests this build will meet an 80% approval rating. (+/- 5% margin of error)

I don't see anything I would change.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Assembly Started
Post by: yotsuya on August 19, 2013, 04:48:49 pm
I like how you extended the base to the back of the wall. It looks more complete that way.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Assembly Started
Post by: severdhed on August 19, 2013, 07:17:22 pm
thanks.

family stuff to do tonight, so very little progress will be made this evening.  i did start working on the PC a little.  I had a pentium 4 desktop pretty much set up and ready to go, but then the other day a lady brought me a laptop to repair (i work at a pc repair shop).  as it turns out, her husband got drunk and beat the crap out of it.  shattered the screen, and severely bent up a large portion of it.  She decided just to buy a new one and told me to throw the old one out (once i got her data moved over of course).  Well, as it turns out, even though it looks ugly, it runs perfectly fine.  I plan on removing the LCD entirely and using this for my mame cabinet.  it has a phenom II dual core 2.8ghz processor with 4gb of ram, 500gb hd and radeon hd4250 graphics. it has VGA and HDMI outputs, which makes it much better than the p4 that i was going to use.  Plus it is small enough that it will fit in the control panel portion of the cabinet. I am considering mounting everything in the control panel box, so that i could detach it from the base and take it other places....like in the back yard connected to my DLP projector.  I'm not entirely sure on that though.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-82dhKafOFPA/UhKly2oH39I/AAAAAAAACoQ/6eIkU_YDNGU/w737-h553-no/IMG_3295.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9I2VdsvginA/UhKlzS5b67I/AAAAAAAACoU/k3GG9AiTCSE/w737-h553-no/IMG_3296.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jKijSUwgggw/UhKlzSD26XI/AAAAAAAACoY/aFthOjKm-78/w415-h553-no/IMG_3297.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kz3luPOnchg/UhKl02d6vbI/AAAAAAAACog/jyyvIYTOscY/w737-h553-no/IMG_3298.JPG)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Assembly Started
Post by: Caparo8bit on August 19, 2013, 08:23:26 pm
great will b watching you ..... i will love to build my own arcade but the only tools i have r a spoon and fork
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Assembly Started
Post by: severdhed on August 19, 2013, 09:05:00 pm
I am a bit nervous about how this will turn out, I have built control panels before for existing cabinets, but never a scratch built anything.

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Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Base cabinet pretty much assembled
Post by: severdhed on August 24, 2013, 10:01:48 pm
Made some progress today.  My two sons gave me a hand this time...they got me tools, carried some wood, drew some pencil lines, drilled a few holes, put in some screws, and glued a few joints.  it was so cool to have them help be build this.  We will be able to look back on this for many years as a father/son project. I'm so happy they can say they helped build it.

Here it is with the bottom shelf installed and the lower back panel with the hole for the cables.. I exhausted my budget for this thing, so i used some OSB that i had in the basement for the bottom., since nobody will see it but me.  I wish i would have went with MDF, since it is much nicer, but you do what you have to do. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0b2EqSG7ikI/UhlhFhC7ZzI/AAAAAAAACpU/2Zli5myYQF8/w737-h553-no/IMG_3299.JPG)

front panel glued and clamped in place. I did not use any screws on this panel, i'm hoping the glue will be enough.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d6V291ju7Yo/UhlhFlutUtI/AAAAAAAACpQ/BoI_t7aS6to/w737-h553-no/IMG_3300.JPG)

here it is standing up, looking at it from the front.  I considered a coin door, but it is really not necessary, and i didn't want to spend the money on one...i can always add it later if i want.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rAH5jOKSO04/UhlhFbuqM-I/AAAAAAAACpM/gxxk6ZoOfo0/w737-h553-no/IMG_3301.JPG)

here is a shot from the rear.  i cut the door just a little too small, i'm thinking of adding black T-molding to the top and bottom edges of the door to tighten it up a little, and also protect the edges during removal of the door. i didn't drill the hole for the lock yet, i ran out of time this afternoon.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tQOKn1k89Uk/UhlhI6IKekI/AAAAAAAACpg/zMMFKhie568/w737-h553-no/IMG_3302.JPG)

here is a shot looking in the back door.  the 5 holes in the bottom are just for air intake.  I plan on having a fan mounted somewhere up high on the back...just not sure exactly where yet.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Wb2PG7QF6Yk/UhlhJFB0WFI/AAAAAAAACpk/WSKNMuTpeUA/w737-h553-no/IMG_3303.JPG)

i started cutting the boards to build the control panel box, but didn't get very far on that.  hopefully i'll get a chance to work on it tomorrow, but that will depend greatly on my wife.  She already hates that i'm building this thing, so it all depends on her mood tomorrow. I learned that it is not in my best interest to piss off a pregnant woman.

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Base cabinet pretty much assembled
Post by: sabreerbasAlpha on August 25, 2013, 09:01:20 am

i started cutting the boards to build the control panel box, but She already hates that i'm building this thing, so it all depends on her mood tomorrow. I learned that it is not in my best interest to piss off a pregnant woman.



Damn I know that only to well. Keep going mate she's coming on nicely, But don't neglect the pregnant lady.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Base cabinet pretty much assembled
Post by: severdhed on August 25, 2013, 10:59:51 pm
well, she was in a decent mood today, so i got some time to make a little more progress on the cabinet build.  The boys said they were going to help be, but after a few minutes, they decided to go do something else instead.  i had some extra 1x5 pine boards lying around, so i used those for building the control panel box.  i made the bottom from the OSB i had...once again, maybe not ideal, but i had the stuff on hand and didn't have to spend any money on them...this keeps my wife happy.

here are my boys helping to glue the sides of the control panel box together.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hKRVrHBbc6s/UhrBnV4b2fI/AAAAAAAACqg/-abbkFsSlW4/w737-h553-no/IMG_3307.JPG)

here is the control panel box sitting on the pedestal base

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U36t_Acc4RQ/UhrBm-Tl2UI/AAAAAAAACqc/b4qJ8LJH5As/w737-h553-no/IMG_3308.JPG)

another shot of the control panel box.  I have since drilled a 2 in hole in the bottom for the wires to run through and screwed the box to the pedestal. i also put some wood filler in the cracks where the boards join together to fill in the tiny gaps.  i didn't take a picture of it since then though...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J0rlAen99J4/UhrBmivvQfI/AAAAAAAACqY/CvIj0Law1_o/w737-h553-no/IMG_3309.JPG)

i still have a lot to do, but it is nice to at least make a little progress....next up, cut the top of the control panel and start drilling holes
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Base cabinet pretty much assembled
Post by: sabreerbasAlpha on August 25, 2013, 11:16:26 pm
Ok so the up next part is were it gets interesting.

This is a 4 player CP. So here goes. for the love of god don't angle player 3 and 4 at 45 degrees or anything like that. Just keep all the player positions straight on to the screen.

Don't drill any holes until you have decided on the art work if any and its position on the CP. If its just going to be one solid colour then go ahead and drill.

Ignore any old Arcade machines you might have seen with 4/6 players and the sticks and buttons off at stupid angles, They got it wrong back then, Trust me..
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Base cabinet pretty much assembled
Post by: severdhed on August 25, 2013, 11:42:51 pm
no plans to angle any joysticks.  i just got rid of a 4 player showcase cabinet a few months ago, so i pretty much know the button layout i want.  i'm not sure of the exact location of the player 3 and 4 sticks/buttons, but i will figure that out soon.  I do plan on installing a trackball in the center and i'm considering a 7th button.

I'm not sure on the artwork yet...i'd like to go with a TMNT theme, i started working on an overlay in photoshop, but i'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not.  Due to it's size, it is expensive to get printed....staples quoted me $45, which is more than i want to spend on this.  i do know a guy with a high end large format printer...i'm going to call him tomorrow to see what he would charge to print this for me.....here is what i came up with so far....work in progress.

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control Panel almost done
Post by: severdhed on September 07, 2013, 10:51:55 pm
Got some work done on the cabinet finally today.  My wife was gone all afternoon, daughter was napping, so the boys and I got to work. 

Cut out the shape of the control panel top, which i had marked a few nights ago so it was ready when i had a chance to cut. i then drilled small pilot holes through all of the button locations, flipped it over and started drilling from the back, just a little to help prevent blowouts.  then i flipped it back over and proceeded to drill them out with a 1 1/8" forstner bit.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZXzJ2XT92WM/UiuzWdz-mzI/AAAAAAAACrI/zF29K_57JvE/w737-h553-no/20130907_152330.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7H3KyRpyzqU/UiuzfvmekOI/AAAAAAAACrg/sS_QfRN87fs/w737-h553-no/20130907_152520.jpg)


I wanted to keep the button holes as straight as possible, so i used a drill guide i picked up at harbor freight, which keeps the drill at a 90 degree angle, i highly recommend these if you don't have a drill press.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-myvcoaBj1Fw/Uiuzc-OmjKI/AAAAAAAACrY/AUICzjJJB2g/w737-h553-no/20130907_153003.jpg)

all buttons holes drilled, as well as the 3" hole for the trackball.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PAGxxZYwruM/UiuziQwSikI/AAAAAAAACro/etl22_lXmSo/w737-h553-no/20130907_154532.jpg)

flipped it over, routed out about half the thickness of the panel for under mounting the JLW joysticks.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ToyOus-pPfI/UiuzlubLFZI/AAAAAAAACrw/o54Ozs__BJc/w737-h553-no/20130907_161057.jpg)

i then placed the plexiglass on and used the 3" hole in the mdf as a guide to cut the trackball hole in the plexi with a flush trim router bit.  i made sure there was an overlap of plexi on all sides of the panel.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vfG7dSR0bcw/UiuzrmZTYLI/AAAAAAAACsA/FOrsacgOnU4/w737-h553-no/20130907_170641.jpg)

i then removed the plexi, marked the location of the trackball plate and cutout area for the trackball.  I also used a 3/4" spade bit to counter sink an area for the T-nuts that I will use to attach the joysticks.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lmoBl92qKCE/UiuzoVktLcI/AAAAAAAACr4/Ds9yJcVhxEA/w737-h553-no/20130907_171601.jpg)

i cut out the hole for the trackball with a jigsaw, then used the router to recess an area for the mounting plate so it will sit flush with the surface of the panel.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8TaabmFZ10o/Uiuzw7VtJ3I/AAAAAAAACsQ/uMohX2aeIyw/w737-h553-no/20130907_174134.jpg)

i mounted the trackball mounting plate to make sure it fits, and also installed all of the t-nuts for the joysticks.  I used a large bolt as a punch and pounded them in with a hammer. (making sure to have a block of wood under the back to make sure it was supported during the pounding)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nK1NYfQP12M/Uiuz0YZ62eI/AAAAAAAACsY/xysO69i-GpQ/w737-h553-no/20130907_175423.jpg)

Here is a shot of the t-nuts which are recessed into the top of the panel

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kDOtpy1d4gM/Uiuz3N7rcOI/AAAAAAAACsg/7cKSKUSivFs/w737-h553-no/20130907_175428.jpg)

my 4 year old helping me attach the nuts for the trackball plate

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sKq11UcAvJg/Uiuz6feW1xI/AAAAAAAACso/d6_Z5fZsy4Q/w737-h553-no/20130907_175446.jpg)

i didn't bother making a guide for perfect routing...just free handed it....isn't that great of a job, but it works, and you wont see it.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lTaotttM_SQ/Uiuz8QxDoiI/AAAAAAAACsw/prblB4W7Nnc/w737-h553-no/20130907_175432.jpg)

then came time to start cutting button holes in the plexi.  i placed it back on the panel, lined up the trackball hole with the mounting plate, clamped it and then started. i placed the 3" hole saw in the hole to help keep it lined up while i clamped it.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OufDtxNaU28/Uiu0FyIICnI/AAAAAAAACtU/peGlIm3mirM/w737-h553-no/20130907_175753.jpg)

 i have tried many methods over the years for drilling in plexi, but this is by far the best way i have found.  i used a V groove router bit in my trim router, and slowly lower it into the button hole for a pilot hole, then use a flush trim bit to make them nice.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F_i-yEG2qDs/Uiu0DOx0h8I/AAAAAAAACtM/tiXeLxP_Gik/w737-h553-no/20130907_180045.jpg)


i only got about 3 holes done until i had to quit...my wife came home and supper was ready.  i had to then pack up for the day.  I am hoping that tomorrow afternoon i'll get to finish doing the button holes, trim the plexi around the outside edge of the panel, and cut the slot for the t-molding....i guess time will tell.    I also did a test fit with the trackball installed, the edges of the plexi are a little sharp. I see some of you have used a 45degree chamfer bit to make this edge nice, but i do not have one of those.  I checked harbor freight, but they didn't seem to have any cheap ones.  The cheapest i have been able to locate one locally was about $18, which is more than i'd like to spend on this. i do have a roundover bit, do you think that would work?  i guess i could test it on a scrap tomorrow....i just told my wife i wouldn't spend any more money on this thing for a while. 

i brought it in and placed it on the pedestal to see how it looked...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fUFbb4Gwirw/Uiu0PsPXvRI/AAAAAAAACtc/aUhBIPBIpqY/w737-h553-no/20130907_191755.jpg)

I then proceeded to place the buttons in the holes, mainly just because i could.  i am on blue button short, but i can steal one from my other cabinet, i just used my coin button temporarily to fill the hole.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WiVQCVqUD9A/UivHqbn8EkI/AAAAAAAACts/Q7ffYwJNfdY/w737-h553-no/20130907_204034.jpg)

i'm pretty happy with the overall feel of the panel and the button layout.  i can't wait to get this thing working.

That is it for today.  i've just about finalized my overlay artwork, hopefully i'll be able to get that printed soon.  Once again I am at the mercy of my wife on that one.  I also need to pick up some black paint....i wanted to paint it dark green, i already have red t-molding for it, but she shot that idea down pretty quickly.  it would clash horribly with the walls in the room...i guess you win some, you lose some.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control panel almost ready
Post by: severdhed on September 07, 2013, 11:08:53 pm
also, here is my overlay artwork..i'm not sure if it is 100%, but it is close.

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control panel almost ready
Post by: Caparo8bit on September 08, 2013, 01:54:10 am
I like the match of the color of buttonsns with the TMNT and hey how you can use same button if for pause and exit..witch front end r u susing?
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control panel almost ready
Post by: severdhed on September 08, 2013, 09:00:58 am
I use MaLa for my front end, but that is not a built in function....I use an auto hotkey script to accomplish this. I wire the button as the p key, and the script is set up so that a regular press and release of the button sends the p keystroke, but if it is pressed and held down for 3 seconds, it sends the esc keystroke instead. It works very well. This way I only need one admin button, and you can't accidentally exit out of a game.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control panel almost ready
Post by: pesto126 on September 08, 2013, 09:34:50 am
Nice work and I learned quite a bit from reading your helpful tips!  Thx and will be following your progress!
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control panel almost ready
Post by: severdhed on September 08, 2013, 06:35:48 pm
thanks.

got some more done today, i think the powertool portion is nearly complete.

i made pilot holes in the plexi using the v groove router bit. i used a couple buttons to hold the plexi to the wood.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nCzd5iQVLgw/UizbYchOhII/AAAAAAAACt8/k89XkIhngrU/w737-h553-no/20130908_144311.jpg)

all of the holes are cut out using a flush trim router bit.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2b8IWFi9bUg/UizbbQDKDzI/AAAAAAAACuI/uoHm1dLMwwI/w737-h553-no/20130908_145157.jpg)

i didn't take a pic of this, but i cut a 3" hole in a scrap and clamped it to the plexi, then used a roundover router bit to soften the edge around the trackball hole.

i cut the slot for the tmolding, ofset to account for plexi, and took a roundover bit to the bottom edge to help hide the fact that it is thicker than the tmolding.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--fpowAYkWyc/UizbdykMq3I/AAAAAAAACuM/-mhpJ0LKtJc/w737-h553-no/20130908_152213.jpg)

mounted joysticks and buttons temporarily to see what it looked/felt like

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VCAOJZg5uEM/Uizbj5oYWLI/AAAAAAAACuc/Rfn7z9qpAAA/w737-h553-no/20130908_161634.jpg)

player 3 and 1 controls
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mC2RsOTtk-0/Uizbl2J5QwI/AAAAAAAACuk/12M8odXLSv8/w737-h553-no/20130908_161643.jpg)

player 2 and 4 controls

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zVpaDzUoq4E/Uizbp7ZcBCI/AAAAAAAACu0/HQbqU9Rxqz8/w737-h553-no/20130908_161657.jpg)

all for now
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - coin buttons, locks and power buttons
Post by: severdhed on September 10, 2013, 08:31:58 am
got a little bit more done after the kids went to bed last night...

took the back door off and drilled the hole for the lock
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UKsKWGG-_rQ/Ui6RGQwqFiI/AAAAAAAACwE/jokhZgLIBQU/w1021-h766-no/20130909_223747.jpg)

installed the back door
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Dt7ioQqmp3U/Ui6RNU1kznI/AAAAAAAACvc/evSesXNk2v8/w1021-h766-no/20130909_224821.jpg)

i also drilled holes for the coin buttons and temporarily installed them as well
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zgRuNi-h1Qw/Ui6RJTVEFaI/AAAAAAAACvM/XiUG3GqYllI/w1021-h766-no/20130909_223759.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AdkgeCp9keY/Ui6RLdlEwTI/AAAAAAAACvU/av0Y8NjxV9A/w1021-h766-no/20130909_223753.jpg)

i mounted another lock on the front of the cp box which will be used as the PC power switch..this will keep my 2 year old daughter from turning the cabinet on or off.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jwK-2neP4Hc/Ui6RPbgSq-I/AAAAAAAACvk/AcP_LhB72RM/w1021-h766-no/20130909_224834.jpg)

the clamp is in the way, but i mounted a switch to a small scrap of wood which i glued to the inside of the control panel box, you insert the key and turn it, the lever actuates the switch.  it is mounted so that the lever is in the downward position by default, so when you turn the key and let go, gravity will pull it back away from the switch.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--iYBuenGl4o/Ui6RT8V2OdI/AAAAAAAACv0/7ennydVdH8o/w1021-h766-no/20130909_230144.jpg)

and here it is as it stands now.  i have to pull the panel out and route out an area for the servo stick upgrade i plan on ordering, and then get ready for paint.  i found a quart of unopened killz 2 latex primer in the basement that i didn't know i had...hopefully i can start with that in the next day or so.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0rV2B4YNuh8/Ui6RRqiMvJI/AAAAAAAACvs/1IxX74LvHOY/w1021-h766-no/20130909_232306.jpg)

that is it for now

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - coin buttons and locks installed
Post by: Drnick on September 11, 2013, 03:04:48 am
OK what are the buttons on the sides for?   It looks too wide to use for pinball comfortably.  Nice job with the art you have planned.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - coin buttons and locks installed
Post by: severdhed on September 11, 2013, 07:53:51 am
Thanks..I can't wait to get it printed.  The buttons on the sides are the coin buttons. I figure that placing them on the sides/front of the cp box keeps them easy to reach, but makes the control panel less cluttered looking. It also feels more like reaching down to put another coin in, like it would if it were an actual coin-op unit.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - fan hole cut
Post by: severdhed on September 13, 2013, 10:58:19 pm
i made a tiny bit of progress this evening. managed to cut the hole for the exhaust fan. i need to pick up a few small bolts to hold the fan in the next time i hit the home depot.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rc73WsyUKiE/UjPPOlzApdI/AAAAAAAACwc/2I_Xs0pWF6k/w737-h553-no/20130913_214824.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zypxrPQMI_Q/UjPPSuD5i-I/AAAAAAAACws/y804gFDP4hw/w737-h553-no/20130913_214856.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PKZXDjzXack/UjPPQvWpXuI/AAAAAAAACwk/vGj1JUNXTHI/w737-h553-no/20130913_221843.jpg)

I also removed all of the controls from the panel, so that i can use the router to recess an area for the servo stik upgrade i plan on purchasing eventually...hopefully i'll get that done tomorrow...then i can start on painting!!!

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control panel almost ready
Post by: 6of1 on September 14, 2013, 05:18:35 pm
also, here is my overlay artwork..i'm not sure if it is 100%, but it is close.

I like this overlay more then the first one, seems cleaner/less busy. I should try talking my brother into building a ped instead of a table top panel. Making it able to be pushed to the wall when not in use and pulled to the tv to play probably would help with wife approval..

Nice work  :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - coin buttons and locks installed
Post by: severdhed on September 14, 2013, 06:19:59 pm
Thanks, I am much happier with the current overlay than I was the first one.  I'm going to get it printed early next week.

I like the pedestal format, it allows for a large functional panel with minimal floor space used.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - coin buttons and locks installed
Post by: UFO on September 14, 2013, 07:03:23 pm
Hey SH... I'm confused with the P3 and P4 layout... are those player going to be facing each other when they play?
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - coin buttons and locks installed
Post by: severdhed on September 14, 2013, 08:02:47 pm
Not really facing each other, they will be standing at about a 45 degree angle. If you look at most 4 player arcade games, the side players are often oriented in this manor. I'd have to make the panel much wider in order to put the buttons beside the joysticks, and I just didn't want this thing to be that large. It is already 46 inches wide, which is plenty. This panel is very similar in size and button layout to the showcase cabinet I just sold, and it was quite comfortable for 4 adults to play.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - coin buttons and locks installed
Post by: UFO on September 15, 2013, 02:29:29 pm
Ok... I'll have to wait and see how this goes... I just cant work out where I would stand if I was on the left P3.. it seems like the buttons are in a diamond shape and I'd have to reach over the buttons if I was standing at 45degs...

Will watch with interest...
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - primed!
Post by: severdhed on September 15, 2013, 11:08:12 pm
here are how my hands fit when standing at a 45 degree angle at the panel, the joysticks are not installed right now, and since i had to use one hand to take the pic, i couldn't show me holding the joystick.

here is player 3
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3BIS8J3NF54/UjZyn-vyglI/AAAAAAAACxU/QHy30MR4KEg/w737-h553-no/20130915_162733.jpg)

here is player 4
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Hd1lMRzDjLE/UjZyky8EnsI/AAAAAAAACxM/VO58dj2sNMM/w737-h553-no/20130915_162719.jpg)

I also made some progress this weekend, not alot, but every little bit helps.

i took the control panel back off and recessed an area on the back just in case i decide to purchase the servostik upgrade for my JLWs.  i don't have the cash right now, but i have a feeling i'll end up with one of these eventually. isn't the cleanest router work but i did it pretty much in the dark, trying to get it done before 9pm (don't want to piss off the neighbors)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xe_ei4Yd_8k/UjZ00ctO0hI/AAAAAAAACxo/ytEEzxz6EQc/w737-h553-no/20130915_230130.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-68uwS3cw-Fg/UjZ0yWCxzdI/AAAAAAAACxg/BqRIQsjme0o/w737-h553-no/20130915_230136.jpg)

i also got to put 2 coats of primer on the cabinet.  I used Kilz 2 latex primer, because i had some lying around...although i stirred it up for several minutes, it was lumpy. it seems to go on ok though, so hopefully it will be fine.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tB64IWp62jM/UjZyhJejgOI/AAAAAAAACxA/EXlFKeCAaQw/w737-h553-no/20130915_225114.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E6hq5J0ZEgg/UjZyjEtvboI/AAAAAAAACxI/iSPph8ePIqM/w737-h553-no/20130915_225207.jpg)

i really like the way it looks in white, and if it weren't for the fact that i have several small children, i'd probably paint it white and leave it like that...i think it would look good with the red tmolding i bought.   however i'll probably end up painting it black.

i also drilled the holes to mount the hinge for the control panel, i didn't take any pics of this because i had to take the hinge back off to paint....i'm hoping by the end of the week to have the painting done, assuming my wife doesn't go into labor before that :) 
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Primed!
Post by: UFO on September 16, 2013, 04:34:42 am
Its P3 that troubles me really... I see how your right hand sits on the buttons, but if that is a joystick above it looks like your left hand would reach over the buttons - it looks kind of awkward.

I'm sure you have all this planned well though... Looking forward to the rest of the build...
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Primed!
Post by: severdhed on September 16, 2013, 07:43:08 am
It really isn't bad at all. I had this exact layout on my other 4 player cabinet and it was quite comfortable. Nobody else ever complained about it.
Title: Re: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Primed!
Post by: UFO on September 16, 2013, 04:08:59 pm
It really isn't bad at all. I had this exact layout on my other 4 player cabinet and it was quite comfortable. Nobody else ever complained about it.

Not complaining SH... You have a tonne more build experience than me fella...

I like it too - all coming along well.

BTW... Its always nice to see a bit of "brainwashing" going on with the kids - I've done it with mine too. Its great to get them involved. After all, they will be getting these things one day!!

:cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Primed!
Post by: severdhed on September 19, 2013, 10:34:54 am
more progress.  I got the cabinet mostly painted black last night, i need to do a little light sanding this evening and then put on the final coat...i'm pretty pleased with how it is turning out so far. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aCXxHVrVabY/Ujp7_Cj3TLI/AAAAAAAACyQ/c1WbfODLaLE/w499-h374-no/20130918_234709.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Yp1KvMqmyzA/Ujp8BmTrW8I/AAAAAAAACyY/h6xhSmeg8uQ/w499-h374-no/20130918_234744.jpg)

i am stopping by my friend's house this afternoon to drop off the photoshop file to be printed. This evening i will try to finish the painting and install the cp hinge, so hopefully tomorrow night install the control panel overlay.

I'm hoping by the weekend i can have the t,molding installed and have it all ready to start writing the controls.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Overlay Printed
Post by: severdhed on September 19, 2013, 01:19:04 pm
stopped by my photographer friend's house and he printed off my control panel overlay.  He printed it on a premium lustre photo paper on his epson stylus pro 9900 printer (which is awesome).  It came out better than i anticipated, i am very pleased with it. This photo doesn't do it justice, it looks fantastic in real life.  I can't wait to install it this evening.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SeYCdh76KTo/UjsmXxgU53I/AAAAAAAACyw/vsAYJYMB9_4/w1153-h865-no/20130919_122158.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control Panel Overlay Printed
Post by: shponglefan on September 19, 2013, 09:06:16 pm
Awesome!  Looking forward to seeing this one all wired up!  :applaud:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control Panel Overlay installed
Post by: severdhed on September 20, 2013, 12:12:34 am
it took longer than i anticipated, but i got the control panel overlay cut and installed tonight. 

first of all, i installed the hinge for the control panel..

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MUu6sMDyVvA/UjvIppRxdxI/AAAAAAAAC0k/B-w8v91ttHM/w737-h553-no/20130919_212939.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--aiSlQiWmT4/UjvImRGjLpI/AAAAAAAAC0c/9-i6c6r2sVU/w737-h553-no/20130919_214117.jpg)

 i also installed a chain to keep it from opening too far
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gVlWG4KM2YE/UjvIkMuDT4I/AAAAAAAAC0U/5-lf4uNLtJk/w737-h553-no/20130919_215209.jpg)

i laid out the overlay
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k1e2tmGPJ4o/UjvIh8ZxNgI/AAAAAAAAC0Q/MSdVB3V9OGM/w737-h553-no/20130919_215527.jpg)

cut out the holes with a razor knife
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--2J7v_nP4NA/UjvIdg8sGzI/AAAAAAAAC0A/OOxrKJTNDX0/w737-h553-no/20130919_222044.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pK809i9yqug/UjvIbE1MBmI/AAAAAAAACz0/I5xTgRLllAI/w737-h553-no/20130919_224819.jpg)

installed the plexiglass, buttons, joysticks

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UbspQ8P6-FU/UjvIYebdE8I/AAAAAAAACzw/KkCDFXrMHgk/w737-h553-no/20130919_232725.jpg)

installed t molding around panel

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-du7vOEkHMiU/UjvIT6uLKfI/AAAAAAAACzk/SXkKTt72fXc/w737-h553-no/20130919_235658.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pBPajsJE9zA/UjvIJ1PuBgI/AAAAAAAACzM/C-jkYO65sFY/w737-h553-no/20130919_235849.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e9gGUbfiSKU/UjvINKmigsI/AAAAAAAACzU/FGd5NwoLN3I/w737-h553-no/20130919_235828.jpg)

tomorrow night i need to put another coat of paint on the bottom of the cabinet, then then install the tmolding on the rest of the cabinet.


i am so very happy with how this is turning out.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control Panel Overlay installed, tmolding
Post by: severdhed on September 20, 2013, 11:55:25 pm
tonight i put on another coat of paint on the cabinet, so tomorrow i can install the t-molding.  i also mounted the ipac4 to the control panel. i wanted to mount it vertically, but there just wasnt a good spot to do it. this will work.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MY2gvpxIwug/Uj0XPPudUBI/AAAAAAAAC1c/JuZSTJn1IOo/w737-h553-no/20130920_215101.jpg)

i also installed a second chain on the left side to help support the lid, it feels much more stable now.  i started wiring up the controls, didn't get very far, but there is always tomorrow. I am trying to keep the wiring nice and neat, i'll zip tie the wires together once i am done.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Iw7kaVc-f5g/Uj0XRVQ1EgI/AAAAAAAAC1k/udCo58Ug_oQ/w737-h553-no/20130920_232101.jpg)

i picked up a nice set of wire strippers ($4) and a set of ratcheting crimpers($10) from harbor freight.....man i wish i would have done this sooner.  If you don't have ratcheting crimpers, you are missing out on a wonderful crimping experience.  they make it so much easier, and your hand doesn't hurt from squeezing when you are done. go get a set now.  i'm sure you could spend alot more and get really nice ones, but the ones from harbor freight seem to work very well and they are cheap.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Control Panel Overlay installed, tmolding
Post by: severdhed on September 22, 2013, 11:57:14 pm
good bit of progress this weekend. 

i got the control panel wired up, this took forever!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BmKTmXYmdtI/Uj5nhKP7xVI/AAAAAAAAC2s/Qj6fGIpW2lk/w680-h510-no/20130921_230005.jpg)

here is a pic of the mouse hack i did for the trackball interface

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bZ0OYat6KwE/Uj5nede-5cI/AAAAAAAAC2k/0Lja0opoGCA/w680-h510-no/20130921_224102.jpg)

got the rest of the Tmolding installed

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lYnG0N0Tq3Y/Uj4TalAc0iI/AAAAAAAAC2U/Hwvdkko7rbI/w680-h510-no/20130921_172658.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j6kIaUPZj5o/Uj-7v-bKVPI/AAAAAAAAC5U/04brCxVIPGY/w680-h510-no/20130922_235454.jpg)

then moved on to mounting the TV to the wall.  The wall mount i have is narrow, and of course, it didn't line up with any studs in the wall. so i cut a piece of wood (actually two glued together) and painted them to match the wall.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6lJDy4UY_s4/Uj-2QZCfxII/AAAAAAAAC28/JmeyvstbDRQ/w680-h510-no/20130922_222121.jpg)

i recessed some T-Nuts into the back side for attaching the mounting bracket to the wood

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qQDs96Ot64Q/Uj-6SBoZ3WI/AAAAAAAAC5A/7CvSK5uy4rY/w680-h510-no/20130922_222130.jpg)

screwed it to the wall with 6 3" screws into the studs

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LDHyTi_5Hr0/Uj-2SKy79tI/AAAAAAAAC3E/g3MxN50GuJo/w680-h510-no/20130922_222648.jpg)

attached the mounting bracket

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4biIcIO1bxk/Uj-2ULEhMAI/AAAAAAAAC3M/n0WWoXm1UaU/w680-h510-no/20130922_223107.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T9jidyNgeI8/Uj-2WPkCCcI/AAAAAAAAC3U/KS3XC43kM6g/w680-h510-no/20130922_223057.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YgyTMjlgw_Y/Uj-2Yc5zUfI/AAAAAAAAC3c/cQCfJP48cFc/w680-h510-no/20130922_223144.jpg)

the computer is not ready yet, but i stuck my laptop in there and fired up TMNT for a few pics

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ct28hlR7Vvw/Uj-2lgePu0I/AAAAAAAAC4E/jit2puSiBPA/w383-h510-no/20130922_232957.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y3sfF1cBTBA/Uj-2jBBReRI/AAAAAAAAC4A/ZwICvQoRXEQ/w680-h510-no/20130922_233004.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KPdFBqtKpXg/Uj-2vEHgXzI/AAAAAAAAC4o/H7quInmQMiA/w680-h510-no/20130922_233042.jpg)


now i just need to work on getting the PC mounted and the software setup...hopefully before Wednesday when my wife is scheduled to be induced into labor.

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: Locke141 on September 25, 2013, 01:51:59 am
WOW!

You got a lot done and it looks really good.

What angle do you have your CP at?

Good luck with the baby.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: severdhed on September 25, 2013, 09:18:49 am
Thanks. I posted those Sunday night, then around 1 am my wife decides that it is time to go to the hospital. Baby came a little before 3pm on Monday...they will be coming home from the hospital this afternoon.

I don't know what angle it is at offs the top of my head...but it it's 18"deep and  it's about 2 inches higher at the back
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: BadMouth on September 25, 2013, 09:19:53 am
Not sure why it took until seeing the finished product for me to notice, but I really really like the black player imprint plungers in the colored buttons.
If I ever build a four player cab, I'm stealing that idea.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: severdhed on September 25, 2013, 01:35:40 pm
Thanks, I wanted to make it obvious which start button went with each player, so visitors aren't confused. I really liked how they looked, keeps them from being boring black buttons.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: a1pharm on September 28, 2013, 12:09:25 pm
Very good job on this build, now have fun playing it!

 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: Hoopz on September 28, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Congrats on new baby.  Boy or girl?  Everyone doing well?

Loving the build.  Great work!

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: severdhed on September 28, 2013, 10:49:00 pm
thanks guys.  i'm fairly pleased with how this is turning out.  i was so nervous when starting this project, because all of my cabinets up to this point had been purchased, and I just modified the control panels.

My son, Malaki, was born on the 23rd, 7lbs 3oz, and everyone is doing well.  I'm so excited to get this cabinet finished so we can all play together.  (except eventually it will probably be the 4 kids playing and i'll get pushed aside) My daughter (will be 2 next week) has recently started showing an interest in the cabinets..she loves to push buttons and says "daddy, i play game" all the time. her an my oldest son were playing Mortal Kombat for a while the other day, it was awesome.

I have the PC in the cabinet and started setting it up, but i may end up reloading windows and starting over.  I originally planned on using a damaged laptop for this cabinet, but i would like to run a few pc games on it, and i'm afraid the video card in the laptop will not be enough.  SO i took the htpc i had set up in our family room and moved it to the cabinet.  It is a 3ghz Phenom x4 940 with 8gb of ram.  I am currently using the RADEON HD 4200 graphics that are built into the motherboard...they work fine for mame, havent tested them with any of the pc games yet.  at least since it is a desktop pc, i can easily upgrade the graphics card if i need to. I'll setup the laptop as my HTPC. 

i'm having a few problems with it right now though that i can't seem to work out.  I have an autohotkey script that i use for my single pause/exit button.  if you press the button quickly, it sends the "P" key, but if you hold it for 3 seconds, it sends "Esc" instead.  it is working fine in windows, but not when mame is running.  i'm not sure why though.  i had this script running on my old PC (Windows xp) and it worked fine....i just copied the entire mame directory from that pc to this one, so i'm not sure what is going on.  I guess it could be an issue with windows 7 64bit vs xp, but the same script runs fine on my laptop, which is windows 8 64bit.  i dont' have any other windows 7 computers running in the house, so i'm probably going to end up doing a clean install of windows and starting from scratch on this one.

i do have my mala layout about 50% setup, i'll post pics of that once it is finished.

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: ShankyMcStabber on January 19, 2014, 02:48:24 pm
I hate to necro your old thread, but did you ever figure out your issue with your Autohotkey script and Mame?

If not, I have seen a similar problem when you launch one of the 2 programs as Administrator but not the other.  Due to how the memory space is isolated in Windows 7, you want to either run both as Administrator or neither of them.


Nice pedestal layout btw.  I found this thread while searching for some ideas for a 4 player pedestal to replace my full cabinet that is 90% wasted space (I am going with a Spaceballs the Arcade theme).
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - construction complete, tv mounted, ready for pc setup
Post by: severdhed on January 19, 2014, 05:57:36 pm
yeah, i did get the ahk issue sorted out....as it turns out it was a compound problem.  I decided to upgrade to a newer version of mame, so i had to recompile...as it turns out, the instructions i followed originally to enable direct input in mame were wrong...at least for the new version.  once i figured that out, i had to edit my script a little as well... i wanted it to send P with a quick press and Esc with a long press...what i had to do was use a key other than P or Esc to trigger it.. once i mapped that input on the ipac to a different key, and adjusted the script, it works fine.  I think i used the PgDn key.

Thanks for the compliment...This thing has been getting a good bit of use since i got it up and running.  I have a few more pics to post since i finished it, perhaps i should post those one of these days...
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - new trackball, fully functional
Post by: severdhed on January 22, 2014, 12:06:25 am
it has been a while since i updated this, but i finally got around to finishing this thing up. I have a little work to do cleaning up some of the internal wiring in the computer area, and i'd like to do something different with the cables running to the TV...but other than that, it is done.  My awesome wife got me a new trackball for Christmas from GroovyGameGear.  this thing is so much nicer than the old wico trackball i had.  it looks really nice when lit up, and rolls so smoothly...you can't beat a happ trackball.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Rts_0HGQldw/Ut9Ol45hp_I/AAAAAAAADD8/bK1s3qESQI0/w295-h524-no/20131225_104518.jpg)

here it is installed in the panel...using the mounting plate made it really easy to swap it out. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uEWuyTxUEYY/Ut9OS-qQYZI/AAAAAAAADC8/a2J8ljI37ZY/w983-h553-no/20131225_163501.jpg)

it is hard to take a good picture and have the colored light show up properly, it is a very vivid green color.

(http://hhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b1_a5qz4RWg/Ut9Oe89wZpI/AAAAAAAADDk/jRRCyhCgqtA/w983-h553-no/20131225_163407.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OP9KXk7eMfc/Ut9OcK0cADI/AAAAAAAADDc/KvsoCR9sbiw/w983-h553-no/20131225_163420.jpg)

here is a shot of the completed unit, showing my custom mala layout.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6sU3zEZlm3s/Ut9OObHbBpI/AAAAAAAADCs/yOhqmD1c1Xw/w983-h553-no/20140119_211934.jpg)

here is a closer pic of the mala layout. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KxwRhtNaJrM/Ut9OJYOHGkI/AAAAAAAADCc/YN2iZ_4x0XQ/w983-h553-no/20140119_211948.jpg)

and last but not least, my 3 oldest kids playing some TMNT...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AbX-HArAcSU/Ula2uuRuq-I/AAAAAAAAC9c/JYgegvdKick/w737-h553-no/20131003_191350.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IVcgNeVzM6s/Ula2p3OxegI/AAAAAAAAC9U/3vUL7lHBTfg/w737-h553-no/20131003_191137.jpg)

i've really had alot of fun with this project....i really want to clean up my other cabinet now..new paint, new t-molding, new artwork....but that will have to wait until spring. 
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Boxxle on January 23, 2014, 12:11:04 pm
Great build! Looks like many hours of gaming lie ahead for you and your family :)

 I especially liked your tip to offset your t-molding and round-over the bottom of the cp to accommodate for the plexi thickness.  Thanks!
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: severdhed on January 23, 2014, 10:47:30 pm
thanks.  i can't take credit for the offset t-molding idea..i saw that somewhere on here....i think it was Mountain's cabinet.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: BAMBOO on February 09, 2014, 12:10:59 am
Super awesome bro.  This rocks.  Makes me want to ditch my Dynamo Showcase cab and do this instead.   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: SpatzST on February 09, 2014, 08:39:23 pm
that is incredible!

Can you show how you attached the CP box to the cabinet?  I am looking to make something similar and this has inspired me quite a bit.

Also, it wasn't until I played the TMNT arcade game few months back that I was inspired to build my own!! So glad to see you love TMNT TOO! lol
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: severdhed on February 09, 2014, 10:28:03 pm
thanks guys, i'm flattered.  i didn't take any pics of how i attached the cp box....i just ran a few screws through the bottom of the cp box into those wooden braces in the top of the base.   looking back, i wish i would have used bolts to make it easier to remove and put back on.

who doesn't love tmnt
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: pbj on February 10, 2014, 11:01:45 am
I'm planning on using carriage bolts and wing nuts on mine.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Caparo8bit on February 12, 2014, 01:28:52 pm
The only thing i dont like is that you label player "start" button and looks weird starting with player 3, i think the color on the CP art should be enough.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Malenko on February 12, 2014, 03:02:56 pm
the only thing I dont quite get is why players 1,2,and 4 are active in game, but the kids are sitting at positions 2,3, and 4
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IVcgNeVzM6s/Ula2p3OxegI/AAAAAAAAC9U/3vUL7lHBTfg/w737-h553-no/20131003_191137.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: EMDB on February 12, 2014, 03:34:24 pm
the only thing I dont quite get is why players 1,2,and 4 are active in game, but the kids are sitting at positions 2,3, and 4
Player 1 and 2 are in the center, 3 and 4 are the outer positions.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Malenko on February 12, 2014, 03:51:10 pm
That'd drive me crazy. Remap keys on the four player games IMO
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: EMDB on February 12, 2014, 04:13:48 pm
That'd drive me crazy. Remap keys on the four player games IMO
For regular 1/2 player games you want to use the center sticks. Therefore player 3/4 are usually mapped to the outer ones. But you are free to do what you like best on your panel  ;)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: PL1 on February 12, 2014, 04:43:37 pm
That'd drive me crazy. Remap keys on the four player games IMO
For regular 1/2 player games you want to use the center sticks. Therefore player 3/4 are usually mapped to the outer ones. But you are free to do what you like best on your panel  ;)
Pretty sure he's talking about leaving the encoder set up in a 3, 1, 2, 4 configuration so the vast majority of games (1 or 2 player games) have players 1 and 2 in the center.

For 4-player games, if you change the in-game control settings so MAME has players in a 1, 2, 3, 4 configuration it will match up with the screen -- farthest left on the control panel = farthest left on the screen.

It's more work to set it up, but it makes sense to me.   :dunno

The only downside is if you have start buttons/labels with the player# imprint instead of a generic "start" vinyl sticker.


Scott
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Malenko on February 12, 2014, 04:53:41 pm
^This
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: EMDB on February 12, 2014, 04:59:13 pm
...
For 4-player games, if you change the in-game control settings so MAME has players in a 1, 2, 3, 4 configuration it will match up with the screen -- farthest left on the control panel = farthest left on the screen.

It's more work to set it up, but it makes sense to me.   :dunno
...
Ah I see. I fully agree. I would do that if I had a 4 player setup...
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: severdhed on February 12, 2014, 10:15:06 pm
thats a great idea, however i didn't think about that when building it, and no one mentioned it then either.   oh well, no one has ever complained about it in person.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Malenko on February 12, 2014, 10:22:13 pm
thats a great idea, however i didn't think about that when building it, and no one mentioned it then either.   oh well, no one has ever complained about it in person.

its one thing I could never figure out if people did when they make 4 player panels, and one thing I'd do if I ever had a 4 player panel.  Its not like you cant change the button config in MAME for one game, see if the kids like it, if they do, change the rest. If they dont, change it back.

I dont think it'd be a huge deal for turtles, xmen, and the like but it'd pair the players up oddly in NBA Jam, Open Ice, etc.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: thrasherx on March 02, 2014, 07:58:31 am

That'd drive me crazy. Remap keys on the four player games IMO
For regular 1/2 player games you want to use the center sticks. Therefore player 3/4 are usually mapped to the outer ones. But you are free to do what you like best on your panel  ;)
Pretty sure he's talking about leaving the encoder set up in a 3, 1, 2, 4 configuration so the vast majority of games (1 or 2 player games) have players 1 and 2 in the center.

For 4-player games, if you change the in-game control settings so MAME has players in a 1, 2, 3, 4 configuration it will match up with the screen -- farthest left on the control panel = farthest left on the screen.

It's more work to set it up, but it makes sense to me.   :dunno

The only downside is if you have start buttons/labels with the player# imprint instead of a generic "start" vinyl sticker.


Scott

But you don't always play with 4 people. When it's only 1 or 2 people playing a 3 or 4 person game, it makes sense just to leave it be. Plus it saves extra work. To each his own, I suppose.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: PL1 on March 02, 2014, 01:09:19 pm
I figure it's better for the OCD-types to at least be aware of the consideration during the design phase rather than not noticing that the order of players on the panel isn't the same as on the screen until the the art is printed/panel is "finished".   :hissy:

BadMouth compiled a great list of 32 related games here (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,137736.msg1422068.html#msg1422068) for those that want to scratch their OCD itch on this.   ;D


Scott
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Caparo8bit on March 30, 2014, 02:28:23 pm
You  need this asap
(http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/2773-thickbox_default/turtle-dustwashers.jpg)
http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/home/1240-turtle-dustwashers.html (http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/home/1240-turtle-dustwashers.html)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: severdhed on March 31, 2014, 11:25:54 am
those are so awesome.   $15 shipped seems a little expensive for 4 dust washers, but i may have to get these, they are awesome.


thanks for the link.
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: Generic Eric on March 31, 2014, 01:15:09 pm
those are so awesome.   $15 shipped seems a little expensive for 4 dust washers, but i may have to get these, they are awesome.


thanks for the link.
How much for 4 green dust washers & an exacto knife?
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: pbj on March 31, 2014, 01:56:27 pm
I think he's actually charging $10 shipped for those.  I know I paid $14 and was given a $4 shipped refund.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: pbj on April 03, 2014, 09:15:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/goRKVnO.jpg)

What's the outer diameter of your joystick shafts?  I may know a guy with an extra set of turtle dust washers.

Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: severdhed on April 04, 2014, 12:02:27 am
i'f I read my calipers properly, it appears as if they are 9mm.  They are Sanwa JLW-TM-8 sticks for ball tops. the shaft is thinner on those than the JLW-UM-8 which is what it looks like you are using,,,that really sucks
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: pbj on April 04, 2014, 10:05:27 am
Yeah, turns out these were for Sanwa JLF sticks.  If that's compatible with what you have, shoot me your address and I'll toss these in tomorrow's mail.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - 99% complete
Post by: severdhed on April 08, 2014, 11:19:05 pm
I got home from work tonight to find that a package arrived... PBJ hooked me up with a set of awesome TMNT dust washers!!! :notworthy:

They were designed for JLFs but they fit the JLW-TM-8 as well.  they are slightly smaller in diameter than the original sanwa washers, and a little thicker.  I think they look great.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f2uVIsUalJU/U0SzBcetteI/AAAAAAAADlo/AKBCqyaK9zs/w983-h553-no/20140408_221253.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--9bocNheJeM/U0Sy-1coicI/AAAAAAAADlg/XeHPpiParE0/w983-h553-no/20140408_221315.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qZIyAAKwu7I/U0Sy8figr6I/AAAAAAAADlY/ZtnKMY6dT0I/w983-h553-no/20140408_221326.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xchhDP-72lQ/U0Sy6Md2luI/AAAAAAAADlQ/sniLkvQogd8/w983-h553-no/20140408_221336.jpg)

other than the conduit running between the TV and the cabinet, i think it is done.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ihHGaH-r6tg/U0SzETxm0HI/AAAAAAAADlw/ZaeYMsaEhYI/w311-h553-no/20140408_221242.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Dust Washers!!!
Post by: Caparo8bit on April 08, 2014, 11:51:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uFCt3TQ.gif)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Dust Washers!!!
Post by: Caparo8bit on April 09, 2014, 12:14:07 am
And if im not asking for to much...................... ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/tQ8Jpis.gif)
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Dust Washers!!!
Post by: pbj on April 09, 2014, 10:02:11 am
Those came out looking pretty good.  I was tempted to take a drill bit to them, but the plastic seemed brittle.  If I had only needed 2 of the 4, I would have gone for it but I was doubtful of my abilities to get four. 

Now we wait to see if my promised replacements ever show up....

For conduit, you need to cut a PVC pipe in half lengthwise and paint it to look like a green sewer pipe.  No wait, don't do that.  That's my idea.   ;D


 :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player pedestal control panel - Dust Washers!!!
Post by: Locke141 on April 14, 2014, 10:02:14 am
Looking good.

Loving the little tuckers.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: zahhhkinnn on January 16, 2015, 01:29:25 pm
i really love this biuld  :applaud:, can someone help me, where can i find that type of leg-stand (i dont know what is it called), an ebay link or which store sell it :)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/205bh4j.jpg)

thanks in advanced!!!
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: pbj on January 16, 2015, 01:39:36 pm
I just used these on mine:

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=921 (http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=921)
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: BorgDog on January 16, 2015, 01:55:42 pm
Any hardware store should carry them as well, but often only in smaller sizes.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: zahhhkinnn on January 16, 2015, 03:07:28 pm
I just used these on mine:

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=921 (http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=921)

great man, thank you, and how did you installed it?
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: pbj on January 16, 2015, 03:46:00 pm
I drilled holes into the bottom of the cabinet that were smaller than the shaft on those bolts.  Then I screwed the bolts in.  Pretty simple.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: BorgDog on January 16, 2015, 04:10:03 pm
For use in wood I buy corresponding pronged t-nuts, drill the whole to fit the t-nut (larger than the shaft of the leg leveler), press/hammer the t-nut into the hole then screw the leveler into the t-nut. 

t-nut

(http://d2pbmlo3fglvvr.cloudfront.net/product/full/1XGH6_AS01.JPG)
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: severdhed on January 16, 2015, 10:19:18 pm
For use in wood I buy corresponding pronged t-nuts, drill the whole to fit the t-nut (larger than the shaft of the leg leveler), press/hammer the t-nut into the hole then screw the leveler into the t-nut. 

t-nut

(http://d2pbmlo3fglvvr.cloudfront.net/product/full/1XGH6_AS01.JPG)

this is how i did mine as well.  the T Nuts worked really well and allow for easy adjustment.  I'm not sure where to get ones exactly like i used, they came as optional hardware with a desk that also came with casters. we used the casters on the desk and had these leg levelers just lying on a shelf.  they are nice because the bottom of them is a nylon/plastic so they shouldn't scuff anything.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: tocheeba on December 16, 2015, 02:05:49 pm
I'm going to try to duplicate this build. I suck at woodworking, but trying to get better. I think I can handle the base without a problem, but the hard part with the CP. I do have some questions, and I've been reading through, but maybe I missed them. Hopefully you could help some?

Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: woodrowjr on December 20, 2015, 11:10:36 pm
This thread was very helpful in helping me design my pedestal.  It gave me a great place to start.

To the previous poster slagcoin.com has the templates for various joystick/button layouts.

I used Photoshop to help with my layout.

Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: supersonic24 on December 31, 2015, 12:38:51 pm
OP-

Where did you end up mounting the laptop?  Inside the CP or in the base?

Also, how is the back door staying in place?  Is it just locked at the top and resting on the bottom?

Amazing job by the way!

-Kevin
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: tocheeba on January 02, 2016, 01:02:42 pm
Are you able to provide the sketchup file at all? I suck at wood working, and seeing the dimensions of each piece of wood would be helpful.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: severdhed on January 03, 2016, 10:12:35 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s61_3FGZwI40T3B97bg2ekv0g5QAIPWEGvAFLHqQhyCeUf7sFvYyigVTeIel6dxPjlbWaAGRJmPqbnF1HwfTTibj05Fii1EsQG5bGLYSxSqZIuCsIFlkaCImD-IY8Pbo7ZUmmW7NZ5-86jSH-JXOPvENBpt1mKV8hM9i3d-x-gUprlLya6QbT1RSgqqCy13HRAlFJ4aG22rTT78SJpuSrOHq7MPLWBP_V4g-0o0YVY7bCkAt-wCEzktEfIJYcxP0pnCMbg_5Kg-Nz4QHOhJuTzfSHhGhRnUL2_gHgMBfRnLTYOWs0iOXt4Qy9vI2m1RMwZDnTQPiNYxZ514hJgnMqJ9fQudsCe8m1L5rY0AMB63kvnhRX0DTrS-GG1NlL53_Ma8qwfFgnyLvfaFO2dGUX_BKAJK3FFseFwPtbCT9GdfXE9iZadmnYU3ZRHtiPNzwpTcXMnLylqnUkEZEY4m_DBbGTelC8BcbsJvuxh-qnQGtSF0Df_RriuczKFperWjrSfC1c_YaI4IA-ylsA99f9W213jCQvvEKGn9ZhdNzq8oqIuMg-vbgqXORN76j7NI0pq7Llg=s500-no)

I don't think i still have the sketchup files, but i'll look.  this diagram has all of the dimensions on it.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: supersonic24 on January 12, 2016, 12:32:48 pm
See my questions 3 posts above :) when you have the chance OP
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: Erice9000 on July 15, 2016, 02:44:50 pm
I am thinking of building my own machine. This pedestal type is exactly what I am looking for. Just had a couple of technical questions.

1) How does the controls hook up to the PC? I am assuming that green board is the key, just wondering what that was. Also is the connection from that board USB or something else?

2) What is the connection from the PC to the monitor? DVI, VGA, HDMI?

Any pointers or places of interest would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: PL1 on July 15, 2016, 03:09:46 pm
Welcome aboard, Erice9000.   ;D

1) How does the controls hook up to the PC? I am assuming that green board is the key, just wondering what that was. Also is the connection from that board USB or something else?
The part that interfaces controls with a PC is called an encoder (http://newwiki.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?title=Encoders).

The green board is an Ultimarc I-Pac 4 (http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html) keyboard encoder and the smaller blue board is a GroovyGameGear Opti-Wiz (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_85&products_id=260&zenid=8715jefde8p1376oe9fl5sinn7) optical encoder.

You can see the USB cable on the left side of the I-Pac 4 and on the bottom of the Opti-Wiz.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uEWuyTxUEYY/Ut9OS-qQYZI/AAAAAAAADC8/a2J8ljI37ZY/w983-h553-no/20131225_163501.jpg)

Any pointers or places of interest would be much appreciated.
Check out the FAQ here (http://newwiki.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?title=FAQ).


Scott
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: severdhed on July 15, 2016, 05:16:10 pm
OP-

Where did you end up mounting the laptop?  Inside the CP or in the base?

Also, how is the back door staying in place?  Is it just locked at the top and resting on the bottom?

Amazing job by the way!

-Kevin

i ended up not using the laptop, placed a desktop pc inside the bottom portion of the cabinet.

the back door just sits there on the bottm and rests on the top.  the bottom board is cut at an angle so that the door will be held in place.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: severdhed on July 15, 2016, 05:17:44 pm
I am thinking of building my own machine. This pedestal type is exactly what I am looking for. Just had a couple of technical questions.

1) How does the controls hook up to the PC? I am assuming that green board is the key, just wondering what that was. Also is the connection from that board USB or something else?

2) What is the connection from the PC to the monitor? DVI, VGA, HDMI?

Any pointers or places of interest would be much appreciated.

controls run through the green board (ipac 4) into the usb

the pc runs to my TV via a VGA cable and a stereo mini jack to dual RCA cable for audio. This is only because none of the HDMI ports work on that particular television.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: Lucky S.O.B. on January 16, 2017, 08:22:26 pm
How did you attach the control panel to the base?

Also I used a hinge on the backside door and now I am dealing with a big gap and a door that wont open all the way since the edges hit each other  :banghead:
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: severdhed on January 16, 2017, 09:37:55 pm
I just used a few screws through the bottom of the box, Into the base.  I decided on no hinge on the back, gravity holds it in place

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: shaman06 on February 09, 2017, 03:29:13 pm
Severdhed,

You mentioned towards the beginning that putting the laptop (that you didn't go with) into the CP might allow you to take just the top with you. Have you done anything like that even though you put the computer in the bottom? I love your build but I am thinking about putting a shelf in the back and adding speakers and a projector for a fully self contained system that would be "semi" portable.  From the distance you have it from the wall I could get a decent sized screen with a short throw and from farther away you could have 120-inch arcade gaming.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: pbj on February 09, 2017, 04:31:29 pm
Personally, I think the pedestal would vibrate too much to have a project mounted in it.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: severdhed on February 09, 2017, 11:28:40 pm
i agree.  Projectors are very touchy when it comes to vibrations.  Your image would be bouncing around all over the place.  It is a cool idea, but i just don't think it would work well.
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: pbj on February 09, 2017, 11:50:54 pm
That said, do it anyway.  If it works it'll be awesome.

Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: PL1 on February 10, 2017, 08:52:31 am
I am thinking about putting a shelf in the back and adding speakers and a projector for a fully self contained system that would be "semi" portable.
Here's one possible way to work around the vibration problem.

Instead of having the projector permanently mounted in the control panel, make a projector docking bay for storage/transport.

When you set the system up, put the projector on one stable surface (like a microphone stand with a platform on top) and the control panel on a different surface. (like a musician's keyboard stand)


Scott
Title: Re: 4 Player TMNT Pedestal Cabinet - Complete
Post by: shaman06 on February 10, 2017, 07:13:57 pm
That said, do it anyway.  If it works it'll be awesome.

That's what I'm thinking. It might need to be done just to say it's been done. It is a cool concept even if execution doesn't quite work out.  Plus PL1's idea can be used for the shelf if it doesn't work.  I could attempt to modify the pedestal to dampen vibration but I'm not sure there would be a good way to do it. I saw a different forum where someone made something similar and claimed it wasn't an issue but that post seems pretty dead so I don't think I can follow through to see if he changed his mind. I suppose I could find a way to suspend the projector but that seems like overkill.

For now it will be a normal projector (I already have an old one) but I'm hoping to make use of a short throw in the long run to help cut down on the distance needed.