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Title: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Fursphere on March 28, 2013, 11:36:13 am
So I fired up Need for Speed Hot Pursuit this morning for the first time (bought it on sale, just haven't had a change to play it until now).

This game (and Dirt 3 actually) actually use a "hand brake" (e-brake) setting, and it appears to be required to really play the game in NFS:HP

Has anyone mounted one successfully on a Sega still cabinet?  (and made it not look like a horrible after thought...  lol)
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: BadMouth on March 28, 2013, 12:07:11 pm
 >:D No!  Horrible idea.  Definitely don't bid against me on ebay the next time one comes up.   ;)
   
The one on Brad808's cab is pretty sweet.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,115186.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,115186.0.html)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wKqIn6VJ6sQ/TxoIv8PHuhI/AAAAAAAABKw/kecMlNkiHGo/s800/IMG_20120120_193552.jpg)
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Fursphere on March 28, 2013, 02:02:40 pm
lol

While we're looking at a pic of a "real" arcade cabinet, I wish mine had speakers behind the ears in the chair.  That's really the one thing I'm missing.

The handbrake looks like something  could fabricate honestly.  Do you have a picture of the insides of that thing?   
Title: Re: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: brad808 on March 28, 2013, 02:13:28 pm
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lol

While we're looking at a pic of a "real" arcade cabinet, I wish mine had speakers behind the ears in the chair.  That's really the one thing I'm missing.

The handbrake looks like something  could fabricate honestly.  Do you have a picture of the insides of that thing?

I'll upload some tonight for you. It's a basic microswitch inside with some rubber stops to give it feeling.


Edit: there's actually a picture of it cracked open in the thread badmouth linked too. That's probably the only one I have of it. I really don't want to take it apart unless you guys really need to see it.

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Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Howard_Casto on March 28, 2013, 02:17:13 pm
Even in a real car all a handbrake is, is a metal stick on a bolt for pivoting.  Of course it's attached to the brake cable as well, but I'm just saying.... stick on a hinge, that's all it is.  Go down to the hardware store, get a metal pipe... drill a hole in one end and put a bicycle handlebar grip on the other.... you are essentially done barring maybe a spring or something for stiffness. 
Title: Re: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Fursphere on March 28, 2013, 03:31:44 pm
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lol

While we're looking at a pic of a "real" arcade cabinet, I wish mine had speakers behind the ears in the chair.  That's really the one thing I'm missing.

The handbrake looks like something  could fabricate honestly.  Do you have a picture of the insides of that thing?

I'll upload some tonight for you. It's a basic microswitch inside with some rubber stops to give it feeling.


Edit: there's actually a picture of it cracked open in the thread badmouth linked too. That's probably the only one I have of it. I really don't want to take it apart unless you guys really need to see it.

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I saw those, thank you! Can I ask for some external measurements of the "box", and length of the handle?

I really think I can make this from scratch - it looks crazy easy.  I've even got access to a MIG welder, that I'm fairly decent with.  The only tricky part is the "resistance" rubber stop - but that shouldn't be hard to replicate. 

And yes, if I build one of these, I can build more than one.  :)  I like the idea of steel because the e-brake is something you're going to YANK on - its going to take some amount of abuse.
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Howard_Casto on March 28, 2013, 08:15:13 pm
Keep us posted.... I'm curious to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: brad808 on March 28, 2013, 08:22:25 pm


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Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Fursphere on March 28, 2013, 08:44:13 pm


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thank you!
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: gbeef on March 29, 2013, 12:59:38 pm
Ive been on the look out for a lonnnnnnggg time theres nothing out there.
:( I may attempt to build one this summer.
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: ant2 on March 30, 2013, 03:40:30 am
You always buy a cheap real hand brake. Plenty on ebay. There is quite a few howtos on how you can do it
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Warborg on March 30, 2013, 01:51:53 pm
You always buy a cheap real hand brake. Plenty on ebay. There is quite a few howtos on how you can do it

Or a quick trip to an auto dismantler perhaps?  Go to a pick n pull or something similar and grab an authentic handbrake or whatever style would suit your needs...
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Howard_Casto on March 30, 2013, 03:55:18 pm
I would think you'd have to modify a real hand brake to the point of where it might be easier just to make one.  Remember on most real cars they are latched so that they lock in place when you pull em.  I doubt you'd want that feature on your cab. 
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Fursphere on March 30, 2013, 09:56:23 pm
I think a real handbrake modified to work on a cabinet would look like a steaming pile of crap - even if you spend $10 on the thing, it would just be so horrible looking you'd want to burn your cab to the ground with it sitting on there.

The universal ones (see link below) would probably look ok / good, but I sure as hell am not paying $70 - $100 for one.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BGFI6I/ref=asc_df_B006BGFI6I2448846?smid=AUK8QUHS4AE9T&tag=sdcbing598-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B006BGFI6I (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BGFI6I/ref=asc_df_B006BGFI6I2448846?smid=AUK8QUHS4AE9T&tag=sdcbing598-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B006BGFI6I)

The Sega Rally arcade one looks like it -belongs- there.  Hence the reason I'd copy that if I build one.

Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Fursphere on March 30, 2013, 11:42:28 pm
Pricey, but is this the real thing?

http://www.arcadeshop.de/product_info.php?products_id=907&language=en (http://www.arcadeshop.de/product_info.php?products_id=907&language=en)
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Howard_Casto on March 30, 2013, 11:47:39 pm
Even if it is, that thing looks like it'd be hard to install in a generic machine.  Look how deep the innards are.  And if you've got to build the box you might as well build the whole thing. 

Hey Euros are how much in Monopoly money these days?  ;)
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Fursphere on March 31, 2013, 09:19:11 am
85 Euros is about $105 US.   Cheaper to buy a real universal floor mount one and convert it.  /lame

I just remembered I have a "fast / slow" shifter assembly out of a spy hunter cabinet.  I'll have to get that out and take a look at it - might be easy to convert with a simply spring and a longer shaft.

Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: marioxb on April 04, 2013, 09:26:57 am
OK, so I have a dumb semi-related question. So, hand brake. That's the same as emergency brake correct? If so, I was just wondering, does anyone (other than race car drivers and such) ever use these in real life while driving?

I was always told the only time to use those was when parked on a hill, so your car won't roll away. I'd actually be scared to pull that thing while driving. To me, it would be the same as shifting while moving (in an automatic that is, never drove a manual), or turning the car off when in drive.
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: edekoning on April 04, 2013, 09:47:21 am
Yep, only when standing still, though not necessarily on a hill (we don;t have any in the Netherlands ;)): when stuck in traffic, waiting for a bridge/traffic light/train. Just to alleviate my foot from having to hold down the brake pedal.
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: gbeef on April 04, 2013, 11:01:37 am
Hand brakes on racing cabs are nice. When you start to play need for speed shift or Dirt.
DRIFTING  becomes a factor.
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Howard_Casto on April 04, 2013, 11:31:19 am
OK, so I have a dumb semi-related question. So, hand brake. That's the same as emergency brake correct? If so, I was just wondering, does anyone (other than race car drivers and such) ever use these in real life while driving?

I was always told the only time to use those was when parked on a hill, so your car won't roll away. I'd actually be scared to pull that thing while driving. To me, it would be the same as shifting while moving (in an automatic that is, never drove a manual), or turning the car off when in drive.

You really aren't supposed to.  The E-brake isn't much of a brake... it's more of a Fred Flintstone putting your feet on the ground deal.  Also most of them have a latch, so when you pull it, it locks in place unless you depress the button again. 

Actually why am I explaining... just read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking_brake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking_brake)
Title: Re: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: brad808 on April 04, 2013, 12:16:23 pm
Hand brakes on racing cabs are nice. When you start to play need for speed shift or Dirt.
DRIFTING  becomes a factor.

One of my favorites is "grid". Myself along with a few friends have definitely seen the sun comes up a few times doing drifting competitions in that game. It's a lot of fun.

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Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: Brian74 on April 04, 2013, 09:32:00 pm
http://www.gridgame.com/en-us#home (http://www.gridgame.com/en-us#home)  :cheers:
Title: Re: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: gbeef on April 05, 2013, 10:56:16 am
I wish i had a hand brake to drift with:( ha ha ha.. this summer.. Im building something.

Hand brakes on racing cabs are nice. When you start to play need for speed shift or Dirt.
DRIFTING  becomes a factor.

One of my favorites is "grid". Myself along with a few friends have definitely seen the sun comes up a few times doing drifting competitions in that game. It's a lot of fun.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Title: Re: Hand brake on cabinets?
Post by: negative1 on April 05, 2013, 05:14:33 pm
sega rally 2 had a handbrake, that was used for drifting through
some of the turns. i didn't use it much..  but to get really good
times, it was critical.

not sure how it was implemented.

later
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