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Title: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 10, 2012, 12:04:21 pm
It sure sucks to be Dave Foley right about now...

http://www.justice.gov/usao/can/press/2012/2012_01_09_foley.guiltyplea.press.html (http://www.justice.gov/usao/can/press/2012/2012_01_09_foley.guiltyplea.press.html)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: HaRuMaN on January 10, 2012, 12:07:42 pm
Wow...

Wonder what the sentencing will be?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 10, 2012, 12:09:41 pm
More news... (well,  same news but with a Dave Foley perspective added)...

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19708486 (http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19708486)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: DCsegaDH on January 10, 2012, 12:10:33 pm
Damn 20 years and a fine, that does suck (if he is guilty).
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 10, 2012, 12:14:01 pm
Damn 20 years and a fine, that does suck (if he is guilty).

That is for just one of the charges.  The other charge carries a possible 30 years and bigger fine...  so the dude is looking at a possible 50 years + fine.  THAT SAID,  he did plead guilty...so there IS a deal on the table.  I'm guessing he'll get away with a big fine... or possibly a small jail sentence + fine.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mgb on January 10, 2012, 12:26:42 pm
That co-defendant in Milford Conn. Is the large distributor in my area and they are crooks.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: drventure on January 10, 2012, 12:30:45 pm
@pinballjim, is that sarcasm? Can't quite tell.

Based on the article, Foley pulled some pretty bold moves, plus since he had an accomplice across state lines, that drew in the mail and wire fraud charges, which gets into the federal arena.

Plus, sounds like he misled a bank to indicate he was employed when he wasn't.

And, he's already plead guilty, so it sounds like there is no question of guilt.

Still, possible 50 years for that, and yet the guys that led Bear-Sterns, Goldman Saks etc, walked away without a care in the world (and a huge golden parachute)?   :angry:

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mgb on January 10, 2012, 12:35:36 pm
Didn't Foley also try and bring down Mame at one time?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 10, 2012, 12:39:02 pm
Didn't Foley also try and bring down Mame at one time?

He tried to trademark the name for himself IIRC.

Seems to me that this is Bank of America's doing.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 10, 2012, 01:13:47 pm
They're coming for the MAME Devs next.

Says the guy that, along with Xouchey, defended Dave, even years after the MAME trademark episode.

Try actually understanding the issues for once Jim ... it'll cut down on the stupidity.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Mac Green on January 10, 2012, 01:19:01 pm
another article i found http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/10/BA6L18LLG3.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/10/BA6L18LLG3.DTL)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: drventure on January 10, 2012, 01:23:05 pm
Hmm. The US Attorney General article says he plead guilty on Fri

The SFGate article says he plead not guilty on wednesday

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on January 10, 2012, 01:24:47 pm
DF is freed from bail and returns on April.

I'm sure he will be stopping by here once more.


McDonalds still hiring, but I think you're (DF) too late.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 10, 2012, 01:26:32 pm
It is sad -- he had some good ideas, but more importantly, has a family.

He ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- them over worse than he ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- any of us.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 10, 2012, 01:33:33 pm
Hmm. The US Attorney General article says he plead guilty on Fri

The SFGate article says he plead not guilty on wednesday



The SFGate article is from July 2009.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: drventure on January 10, 2012, 01:40:16 pm
Doh!

And that, my friends, is why I'm not a lawyer  :D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Well Fed Games on January 10, 2012, 01:42:40 pm
I thought you meant Dave Foley http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004929/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004929/), but I guess after being in the Postal movie, he deserves whatever he gets...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Kangum on January 10, 2012, 01:51:43 pm
wow 2,624,475 dollars in loans when he wasnt even employed by them anymore. did i read that right. geeze.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 10, 2012, 02:17:35 pm
He was still employed when the application was filled out and submitted.

It's Bank of America.  I have no sympathy for them.
I hope he used the proceeds to pay off smaller creditors (vendors, business partners, credit unions).
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: drventure on January 10, 2012, 02:52:19 pm
He was still employed when the application was filled out and submitted.

I don't have a lot of love for BofA either, but that's not what the USDJ article said.

"Foley had been fired from his job by the time the loan applications were submitted.  Foley admitted that he instructed a co-defendant to contact Countrywide Home Loans to falsely confirm his continued employment, after his employment had been terminated and prior to receiving the funds."

My emphasis.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: FrizzleFried on January 10, 2012, 04:26:54 pm
Hmm. The US Attorney General article says he plead guilty on Fri

The SFGate article says he plead not guilty on wednesday



The SFgate article is from 2009.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Crazy Cooter on January 10, 2012, 05:13:57 pm
 :oldman
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on January 10, 2012, 06:04:32 pm
I find it all rather ironic.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Crazy Cooter on January 10, 2012, 08:19:20 pm
I do as well.  It should serve as the perfect reminder though that people DO care about commercial distribution of ROM's (although this case had other things going on as well).

It's too bad really because as much as we "debated", we actually agreed on the basic issue of distribution without consent.  I imagine it was a "if you can't beat them... Join them" type of decision he made although I don't know the actual timeline of when this all happened.

If he was smart (and I believe he is), he'd try and lower his sentence by providing information leading to the arrest of others doing the same thing.  Even if he didn't lower his sentence it would make the evil-inside smile a little if he knew someone else was being put in the frying pan.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 10, 2012, 08:38:13 pm
Even if he didn't lower his sentence it would make the evil-inside smile a little if he knew someone else was being put in the frying pan.

Ding!  Granted, you don't really plead guilty and THEN start the negotiations... 

Anyone wanna start a betting pool on the length of his sentence?  I'd personally put the over/under at a year.




By sentence, are you saying jail time?  If so, I'll take the under.  I'll guess that he doesn't spend any time, gets a hefty fine, probation and a bunch of community service hours.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Crazy Cooter on January 10, 2012, 08:58:52 pm
Time served, seven years probation, and a nickel on his back for same/similar.  BofA has to get him back on the streets making restitution payments.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 10, 2012, 09:31:48 pm
By sentence, are you saying jail time?  If so, I'll take the under.  I'll guess that he doesn't spend any time, gets a hefty fine, probation and a bunch of community service hours.

Let's make this interesting.  How about $5?   ;D

Nah, but seriously, I'll take the over.  Any weird BS happens like delayed sentencing or he commits suicide and the bet's off.

In for $5.  Same number I had in mind, Jimmy.  I got under a year and a year is a push.  Suicide is win-win-win.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on January 10, 2012, 11:53:20 pm
DF is not worth $5, he's worth $0.00 to me  >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on January 11, 2012, 07:58:36 am
You got a bet, friend.

I'm still waiting for my $20 from last year.
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Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Haze on January 11, 2012, 11:04:28 am
I'm still more curious about some of the stuff that was supposedly being offered in official packs.

Goal '92 was featured on a number of flyers / adverts.

It's a bootleg.

You can't license a bootleg, there is a mix of hacked code owned by the original manufacturer (from which they don't appear to have any other games licensed either..) and code written by the bootleggers, as well as stolen music / sound effects from another game entirely.

That's not something you can include in a commercial product, period, yet it was.

Furthermore, if you had an official license, you'd likely be supplied with information / resources to emulate the original game / hardware, including information on the protection devices (Seibu Cup Soccer still doesn't work in MAME for this reason)  I actually see very little evidence that the guys doing their emulator software were capable of actually emulating anything from scratch (as in figuring out how things work) tho, so maybe even with original information they would have struggled.  At worst it could have still been better disguised to look like the original tho, for example taking the bootleg patches to the protection and applying them to the original game.

I suspect there is still plenty more dirt to be dug when it comes to Ultracade, Foley and the whole saga.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Chazz on January 11, 2012, 12:12:37 pm
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"I felt like if they're not going to do the deal, I still need to make a living," said Foley, who now owns a company that manages and promotes DJs and distributes electronic dance music.

DJ Foley D!
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on January 11, 2012, 05:38:08 pm
I'm still waiting for my $20 from last year.

I seem to recall the deal was you had to prove it with photographs and never did?

 :dunno

Photographs?   Hmmm I don't remember that...... but since we are talking about photographs lets get back on topic.

(http://axisoflogic.com/artman/uploads/1/prison_bars_ken_mayer_flickr_h.jpg)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on January 11, 2012, 09:59:33 pm
they got his name already

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Crazy Cooter on January 11, 2012, 10:04:16 pm
I'm still more curious about some of the stuff that was supposedly being offered in official packs.

I knew it was bad when they offered Jungle King... With a commercial license.  That was back in 2005.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on January 11, 2012, 10:09:36 pm
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United States District Court Judge Edward J. Davila allowed Foley’s continued release on a $100,000 bond and ordered him to return to court on April 30, 2011, at 9 a.m. for sentencing. 

2012 date fail.

well, i guess that's why we haven't seen him skulking around
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Crazy Cooter on January 11, 2012, 10:40:47 pm
http://www.justice.gov/usao/can/press/press_documents/FOLEY%20Plea.pdf (http://www.justice.gov/usao/can/press/press_documents/FOLEY%20Plea.pdf)

Contains a lot more detail.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on January 12, 2012, 07:05:29 am
Looking at that plea deal, it reminds me of those individuals who offering Mame Rom burning services.

In respect, wouldn't ebay transactions be considered some type of mail fraud, or at least a conspiracy charge?

Interesting.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 12, 2012, 07:43:51 am
Looking at that plea deal, it reminds me of those individuals who offering Mame Rom burning services.

In respect, wouldn't ebay transactions be considered some type of mail fraud, or at least a conspiracy charge?

Interesting.

The crux of the charge is that he was still using the name Ultracade, which he didn't have the rights to, not that he was selling unlicensed roms.
Customers were defrauded because they purchased a product presented and labeled as Ultracade when in fact it wasn't.
If he had called it something else and put "works with ultracade" on the box, he might have been in the clear as far as the fraud charge goes.

What I'm curious about is who pursued the issue?  It sounds like the deal with Global VR fell through, so who would be upset about him using the Ultracade name.  Maybe the Bank of America lawyers just tried to find everything they could throw at him.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Crazy Cooter on January 12, 2012, 08:12:43 pm
My guess would be the home loan stuff turned bad first and the guy he partnered on that one with rolled over with the other information.  It would be interesting to see what the other two people involved get sentenced with.  If somebody skates free...  >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on January 12, 2012, 09:38:03 pm
Looking at that plea deal, it reminds me of those individuals who offering Mame Rom burning services.

In respect, wouldn't ebay transactions be considered some type of mail fraud, or at least a conspiracy charge?

Interesting.

The crux of the charge is that he was still using the name Ultracade, which he didn't have the rights to, not that he was selling unlicensed roms.
Customers were defrauded because they purchased a product presented and labeled as Ultracade when in fact it wasn't.
If he had called it something else and put "works with ultracade" on the box, he might have been in the clear as far as the fraud charge goes.

What I'm curious about is who pursued the issue?  It sounds like the deal with Global VR fell through, so who would be upset about him using the Ultracade name.  Maybe the Bank of America lawyers just tried to find everything they could throw at him.

i remember reading someplace that he used the proprietary software (that global now owned after he sold ultracade to them) to generate installation codes for some of the game upgrades he was selling, or something along those lines. his ideal was that they (Global VR) bought rights to the UltraCade name but hadn't done anything with it for like a year, and he was all like" hey i might as well make some dough off this...need to feed my family and all" and made the game packs for ultracde... where he thought "ultracade" had no longer existed since global never did anything with it.

don't forget at this point, Foley was working at global still.

Global found out about Foleys hand in (almost theirs) cookie jar and screamed "rape" so technically it WAS counterfeited software... but (not defending foley here buuuuuut...) some of us know globals propensity for abandoning their projects and leaving their customers hanging... coughallofthemcoughcough i would have thought a company had abandoned it if they didn't finish completing the transaction... but it appeared to persons buying the product that it would have been authorized for use when it wasn't

i think the only reason for globals continuation of the "ultracade/arcade classics" is so they can stick it to foley.

BUT

these new charges have nothing to do with the first set of charges (counterfeit game deal). (well they kinda do) this all had to do with fraudulently obtaining bank loans (by saying he still worked at global after he had been fired for the counterfeit software dealy... actually, it was at about the same time... his getting canned happened to be JUST before the loans had been closed and had to have someone (not from global) call in for him and (fraudulently) verify employment.)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SNAAKE on January 13, 2012, 06:17:46 am
couldn't he disappear with that loan............

sorry I dont really understand any of this :dunno I will read the article later on
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: KevSteele on January 13, 2012, 08:16:59 am
Here's another article summarizing the misdeeds and dooshery of David R. Foley:

http://dougberry.hubpages.com/hub/Ultracade-Founder-David-Foley-Found-Guilty-of-Fraud (http://dougberry.hubpages.com/hub/Ultracade-Founder-David-Foley-Found-Guilty-of-Fraud)

Brings back memories of the email battles I had with him back in the RetroBlast days, when he was trying to register MAME as his own trademark and getting every eBay auction with any arcade artwork pulled using fake DCMA claims.

I had several coin-op industry bigwigs personally warn me to avoid having any business dealings with Foley (not that I would have, anyway) - he was toxic even among his "peers".
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on January 13, 2012, 08:58:22 am
Bet he knows we're talking about him again here in BYAOC.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on January 13, 2012, 03:09:10 pm
Bet he knows we're talking about him again here in BYAOC.

they give you internet access in jail now... an iphone anyways. paid for by the government (AKA everyone but government) wouldn't want you to lose out on that inner-net.

he was toxic even among his "peers".

i wouldn't say toxic... extreeeeemely mis-guided perhaps.  :lol

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Foley is currently out on $100,000 bond.

maybe he will come visit us for one last bruhaha. I think he might be a little busy tying up loose ends before he goes in the clink though.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: saint on January 13, 2012, 03:34:24 pm
they give you internet access in jail now... an iphone anyways. paid for by the government (AKA everyone but government) wouldn't want you to lose out on that inner-net.


Where? I have a friend in jail and he has no Internet access of any kind...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 13, 2012, 03:57:05 pm
they give you internet access in jail now... an iphone anyways. paid for by the government (AKA everyone but government) wouldn't want you to lose out on that inner-net.


Where? I have a friend in jail and he has no Internet access of any kind...

lilshawn hails from the land of granny-booting-realtors, so the rules may be different.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: saint on January 13, 2012, 04:23:25 pm
they give you internet access in jail now... an iphone anyways. paid for by the government (AKA everyone but government) wouldn't want you to lose out on that inner-net.


Where? I have a friend in jail and he has no Internet access of any kind...

lilshawn hails from the land of granny-booting-realtors, so the rules may be different.

Ah! Really? Man, you guys are really laid back!
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on January 13, 2012, 06:16:41 pm
they give you internet access in jail now... an iphone anyways. paid for by the government (AKA everyone but government) wouldn't want you to lose out on that inner-net.


Where? I have a friend in jail and he has no Internet access of any kind...

lilshawn hails from the land of granny-booting-realtors, so the rules may be different.

Ah! Really? Man, you guys are really laid back!

jail here is a resort... tv's, couches, and everything... makes the hospital seem like jail. (well the low security risk ones anyways). why, the one just outside of town here has a teepee so the indians can pray to dead relatives...or shake chicken bones...or whatever it is they do in teepees...  :dunno
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SavannahLion on January 13, 2012, 10:13:16 pm
they give you internet access in jail now... an iphone anyways. paid for by the government (AKA everyone but government) wouldn't want you to lose out on that inner-net.


Where? I have a friend in jail and he has no Internet access of any kind...

lilshawn hails from the land of granny-booting-realtors, so the rules may be different.

Ah! Really? Man, you guys are really laid back!

jail here is a resort... tv's, couches, and everything... makes the hospital seem like jail. (well the low security risk ones anyways). why, the one just outside of town here has a teepee so the indians can pray to dead relatives...or shake chicken bones...or whatever it is they do in teepees...  :dunno

Would have thought you hailed from the West coast until you mentioned the teepee thing. Our Indians build Casinos. Only teepee I've ever seen was in our museums.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on January 14, 2012, 12:06:50 pm
they give you internet access in jail now... an iphone anyways. paid for by the government (AKA everyone but government) wouldn't want you to lose out on that inner-net.


Where? I have a friend in jail and he has no Internet access of any kind...

lilshawn hails from the land of granny-booting-realtors, so the rules may be different.

Ah! Really? Man, you guys are really laid back!

jail here is a resort... tv's, couches, and everything... makes the hospital seem like jail. (well the low security risk ones anyways). why, the one just outside of town here has a teepee so the indians can pray to dead relatives...or shake chicken bones...or whatever it is they do in teepees...  :dunno

Would have thought you hailed from the West coast until you mentioned the teepee thing. Our Indians build Casinos. Only teepee I've ever seen was in our museums.

west yes... coast, no ...casinos, yes...teepee in the prion yard, apparently so. google map up yourself "53.677392, -113.336492"  :P
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Goz on January 14, 2012, 03:19:01 pm
Bet he knows we're talking about him again here in BYAOC.

Then let me go on record to say that I still think that he's a ---tallywhacker---.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SavannahLion on January 14, 2012, 03:35:02 pm
Bet he knows we're talking about him again here in BYAOC.

Then let me go on record to say that I still think that he's a ---tallywhacker---.

My ---tallywhacker--- takes offense at being compared to him.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 14, 2012, 10:23:32 pm
Bet he knows we're talking about him again here in BYAOC.

Then let me go on record to say that I still think that he's a ---tallywhacker---.

 :applaud:

So do I.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: NIVO on January 15, 2012, 09:31:07 pm
so..........is anything on sale yet?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Havok on January 16, 2012, 03:35:09 am
How the mighty have fallen...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on April 26, 2012, 08:20:59 am
Sentencing is on Monday so we'll see if PBJ wins or not.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Santoro on April 26, 2012, 10:44:09 am
subscribe.

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Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: alfonzotan on April 26, 2012, 11:01:20 am
(http://www.celebrityring.info/images/pictures/Dave-Foley-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on April 26, 2012, 11:42:31 am
subscribe.

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Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Havok on April 26, 2012, 11:49:41 am
Nice - forgot about this. It will be interesting to see how it pans out...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Santoro on April 26, 2012, 12:07:03 pm
(http://www.celebrityring.info/images/pictures/Dave-Foley-2.jpg)
I remember him. Wow, he has has a lot of different looks over the years!  Fat/Thin, Beard/clean shaven, dark hair/light hair... etc.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dave+foley&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=4HGZT7eXM4jrrQfDlYHhAQ&ved=0CGQQsAQ&biw=1680&bih=949 (https://www.google.com/search?q=dave+foley&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=4HGZT7eXM4jrrQfDlYHhAQ&ved=0CGQQsAQ&biw=1680&bih=949)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: AlanS17 on April 26, 2012, 12:31:57 pm
Wow! This is not news I ever expected to see, but I'm glad to see it. I guess I shouldn't be particularly surprised...  :cheers:

I actually bought a set of NOS Ultracade artwork at one point for a MAME project that never panned out (just for the irony of it). Don't remember where it came from, but I know I never contributed a penny to that d-bag (excuse the language).

BTW... Hi everybody.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on April 27, 2012, 12:10:40 am
Come on Monday.....can't wait   >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Paul Olson on April 28, 2012, 04:21:23 am
Is anyone close enough to go watch the sentencing? I really wish I could be there, but just can't make the trip right now. If you plan to go, please PM so I can give you my phone number. Live text updates would be great. :)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: AlanS17 on April 28, 2012, 09:09:38 am
Is anyone close enough to go watch the sentencing? I really wish I could be there, but just can't make the trip right now. If you plan to go, please PM so I can give you my phone number. Live text updates would be great. :)
Brilliant! :cheers:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Gray_Area on April 28, 2012, 05:49:18 pm
Is anyone close enough to go watch the sentencing? I really wish I could be there, but just can't make the trip right now. If you plan to go, please PM so I can give you my phone number. Live text updates would be great. :)

If you're going to that trouble, you might as well covertly video and stream it.

Incidentally, I play an Ultracade today, and was un-impressed with the emulation consistency (under-powered hardware?.....), let alone that you see the boot screen of the PC bios.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Lilwolf on April 30, 2012, 05:37:15 am
And that Dave has his own legal problems.  He has been kicked out of Canada by the courts.  He has an ex-wife and a few kids.  The ex left him when he was staring in his TV show, and child support is based on how much he made then.  But it can't go down (really, the law states that.  because a ton of guys would just get a crap job I guess to stick it to the ex-wife)...  So after a few legal battles, he isn't allowed back in the country or he will go to jail...  All because his wife left him at the moment he made more then he ever will again.

Sad thing.  She/Kids doesn't get anything anymore.  Because there isn't a way to pay just a reasonable amount for an grade b actor after he was getting grade a actor money.

pretty messed up system.

(http://www.celebrityring.info/images/pictures/Dave-Foley-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: AlanS17 on April 30, 2012, 07:59:38 am
Here we go! Somebody fire up the grill and fill the ice chest!!!

 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: AlanS17 on April 30, 2012, 03:31:53 pm
Any updates???
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lordnacho on April 30, 2012, 03:45:39 pm
David R Foley right?  He tweeted 20 minutes ago about getting a RAID array fixed  ???
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on April 30, 2012, 04:53:58 pm
David R Foley right?  He tweeted 20 minutes ago about getting a RAID array fixed  ???
That's prison code for stuff we shouldn't talk about on this family friendly forum.   ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: AlanS17 on April 30, 2012, 05:14:30 pm
I think he's going to get 2-3 years concurrent but we'll see...

Scheduled to appear before Judge Edward J. Davila this afternoon.



Is this only the beginning or can we expect sentencing today?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on April 30, 2012, 05:29:12 pm
I think he's going to get 2-3 years concurrent but we'll see...

Scheduled to appear before Judge Edward J. Davila this afternoon.



Is this only the beginning or can we expect sentencing today?
Today is sentencing from everything I've read.  The money is on the table and we're betting on the live of a man.  I'm giddy with excitement.   >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: AlanS17 on April 30, 2012, 05:31:36 pm
It sucks to be him today, but I just can't feel sorry for the guy. He brought it upon himself... Over and over and over. Yeah, it's just video games, but he burned a lot of bridges and (more importantly) broke laws... All the while knowing exactly what he was doing was wrong and choosing to do it anyway.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: crashwg on April 30, 2012, 06:49:12 pm
I know nothing about laws and stuff but if he is sentenced to whatever can we expect some sort of liquidation of the assets?  As much of a ---meecrob--- as he is, some great reproductions were made and I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: CheffoJeffo on April 30, 2012, 07:03:37 pm
I know nothing about laws and stuff but if he is sentenced to whatever can we expect some sort of liquidation of the assets?  As much of a ---meecrob--- as he is, some great reproductions were made and I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some.

Are you confusing Dave Foley from Ultracade (and multi-million dollar home financing fraud) and Dave from RAM Controls ?

Dave Foley's biggest asset is the over $1 Million in salary he has been accruing from a company that made less than $50K last year. Wouldn't hold out hope for that if I were him.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on May 01, 2012, 05:44:20 am
So what's the deal?  Did he get off on good behavior, probation or something like that?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: AlanS17 on May 01, 2012, 10:37:13 am
We need deets! :hissy:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on May 01, 2012, 10:48:03 am
Being new to this site...but remembering ultracade when I was looking at build these 5 years ago....what happened?  I mean, what happened around here?

Didn't Ultracade sell CDs full of ROMs and stuff not too long ago?

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Santoro on May 01, 2012, 11:00:35 am
1) he pulled some sleaze by trying to trademark the MAME name.  http://games.slashdot.org/story/05/02/21/0415209/arcade-kit-seller-applies-for-mame-trademark-updated (http://games.slashdot.org/story/05/02/21/0415209/arcade-kit-seller-applies-for-mame-trademark-updated)
There's a lot here too just search...

2) More sleaze..  http://dougberry.hubpages.com/hub/Ultracade-Founder-David-Foley-Found-Guilty-of-Fraud (http://dougberry.hubpages.com/hub/Ultracade-Founder-David-Foley-Found-Guilty-of-Fraud)

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on May 01, 2012, 11:05:28 am
All that notwithstanding, he's nowhere near the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- list level of Dave Adams aka Adam Judd aka Adam Starr.
Every once in a while when an ultracade question popped up on here, he'd post and try to help the person.
I do think he deserves some credit for that.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: crashwg on May 01, 2012, 11:17:02 am
I know nothing about laws and stuff but if he is sentenced to whatever can we expect some sort of liquidation of the assets?  As much of a ---meecrob--- as he is, some great reproductions were made and I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some.

Are you confusing Dave Foley from Ultracade (and multi-million dollar home financing fraud) and Dave from RAM Controls ?

Dave Foley's biggest asset is the over $1 Million in salary he has been accruing from a company that made less than $50K last year. Wouldn't hold out hope for that if I were him.

Indeed I was.  Effin Daves man, they're all bad news.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on May 01, 2012, 11:18:10 am
I know nothing about laws and stuff but if he is sentenced to whatever can we expect some sort of liquidation of the assets?  As much of a ---meecrob--- as he is, some great reproductions were made and I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some.

Are you confusing Dave Foley from Ultracade (and multi-million dollar home financing fraud) and Dave from RAM Controls ?

Dave Foley's biggest asset is the over $1 Million in salary he has been accruing from a company that made less than $50K last year. Wouldn't hold out hope for that if I were him.

Indeed I was.  Effin Daves man, they're all bad news.
Our Daves are ok.  DaveMMR is a good kid.   :applaud:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on May 01, 2012, 11:49:11 am
That second article is funny...especially the last comment:

David Foley you are a lier and a crook. Investors in NanoTech have been looking for you for the past two years. First Bob Dekett gone now you. Phone at the "corp office" just rings, messages left and no one returns calls. All the while you continue to attempt to raise money for NTEK via debentures, for what purpose? Legal fees, mortgage payments, soap on a rope or just putting money together for the prison commissary? Lord knows nothing is happening with Nano. So prior to having your hair braided by your cell mate make sure that your brother or whoever is now running the show at Nano at least answers the phone or I can assure you that you will have more legal problems via the investors in NanoTech. I must admit...you are funny as hell "I did not plead guilty to fraud. I pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud" Thank god you cleared that up.

Drama...happens in every hobby.  It happened in BMX just a few years ago with the "re-birth" of Hutch. 

AJ


1) he pulled some sleaze by trying to trademark the MAME name.  http://games.slashdot.org/story/05/02/21/0415209/arcade-kit-seller-applies-for-mame-trademark-updated (http://games.slashdot.org/story/05/02/21/0415209/arcade-kit-seller-applies-for-mame-trademark-updated)
There's a lot here too just search...

2) More sleaze..  http://dougberry.hubpages.com/hub/Ultracade-Founder-David-Foley-Found-Guilty-of-Fraud (http://dougberry.hubpages.com/hub/Ultracade-Founder-David-Foley-Found-Guilty-of-Fraud)


Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: CheffoJeffo on May 01, 2012, 12:03:23 pm
I really just urge you guys to read the legal document that came out in January.  While his two convictions were pretty narrow, he admits to a lot of wrong doing.  The convictions were level 20 and 22, you can take a look at what he's facing here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Federal_Sentencing_Guidelines#Sentencing_table (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Federal_Sentencing_Guidelines#Sentencing_table)

While the press release of the agreement cited a maximum of 50 years, my recollection is that the plea agreement has a maximum of 41 months. I can't seem to find the actual plea agreement anymore.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on May 02, 2012, 02:01:15 pm
Never mind.  It's still there.  First time on the twitters/interwebs....  :(
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: DaveMMR on May 02, 2012, 09:32:16 pm
I know nothing about laws and stuff but if he is sentenced to whatever can we expect some sort of liquidation of the assets?  As much of a ---meecrob--- as he is, some great reproductions were made and I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some.

Are you confusing Dave Foley from Ultracade (and multi-million dollar home financing fraud) and Dave from RAM Controls ?

Dave Foley's biggest asset is the over $1 Million in salary he has been accruing from a company that made less than $50K last year. Wouldn't hold out hope for that if I were him.

Indeed I was.  Effin Daves man, they're all bad news.
Our Daves are ok.  DaveMMR is a good kid.   :applaud:

Thanks - I do try to keep my evil in check.  >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on May 02, 2012, 10:35:53 pm
it's already Wednesday night going into Thursday in 1:30 hours, WHAT'S THE VERDICT  :hissy:  :hissy:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Paul Olson on May 03, 2012, 12:47:46 pm
It's been delayed to the end of August.  The attached document cost me 20 cents.   :P





Dammit! That will teach me to not check back here after signing up for a pacer account. I just spent 20 cents for the same document.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Dervacumen on May 03, 2012, 04:34:35 pm
They're just letting the past due fees add up to over $15.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Paul Olson on May 03, 2012, 05:10:37 pm
They're just letting the past due fees add up to over $15.

It is billed quarterly, so if it doesn't add up to $15 in the quarter, the fees are waived.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Dervacumen on May 03, 2012, 05:42:40 pm
Yeah, I know.  I was just recalling getting a tax bill for an adding error three years after filing.  With interest.  It's the government after all.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on May 04, 2012, 01:13:07 am
Here is a quick pick for those who want to see or don't have Acrobat Reader installed.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: MTPPC on August 22, 2012, 01:47:39 am
Less than a week before the sentencing is due.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on August 22, 2012, 10:17:50 am
Yay.  Every dollar will be sucked into lawyer coffers. 

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on August 22, 2012, 11:53:20 am
did anybody else see this, or did I hallucinate?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,121881.msg1294618.html#msg1294618 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,121881.msg1294618.html#msg1294618)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on August 22, 2012, 12:35:40 pm
Granted, I AM going to enjoy paylpaling that $5.
FTFY.    ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on August 22, 2012, 12:36:50 pm
did anybody else see this, or did I hallucinate?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,121881.msg1294618.html#msg1294618 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,121881.msg1294618.html#msg1294618)
He is mostly helpful when it comes to people posting about Ultracade hardware.  Obviously, it's been awhile since he's posted.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Silverwind on August 22, 2012, 09:01:01 pm
did anybody else see this, or did I hallucinate?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,121881.msg1294618.html#msg1294618 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,121881.msg1294618.html#msg1294618)
He is mostly helpful when it comes to people posting about Ultracade hardware.  Obviously, it's been awhile since he's posted.

Hasn't been that long.
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2012, 03:49:53 pm »
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Gray_Area on August 23, 2012, 07:09:49 pm

C'mon, man, it was white collar crime and nobody's pension was looted.

Yeah, I think people in the hobby have animosity because he came off as a cagey bast.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on August 23, 2012, 07:16:39 pm
I meant that it had been awhile between his post a while ago until his most recent one.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: crashwg on October 10, 2012, 04:34:40 pm
F the DOJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on October 10, 2012, 05:30:11 pm
what a bunch of dog humpers. They are just delaying the inevitable.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: NIVO on October 10, 2012, 09:12:25 pm
we is all gone in december anyways :blowup:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on October 10, 2012, 10:03:57 pm
 ::)

apocalypse?

more like apocaLAPSE.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Gray_Area on October 12, 2012, 10:35:20 pm
::)

apocalypse?

more like apocaLAPSE.

You mean prolapse.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SavannahLion on October 12, 2012, 11:52:35 pm
we is all gone in december anyways :blowup:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html (http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html)

I think our calenders are off anyways.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on October 13, 2012, 10:21:39 am
I'm all for real life "Fallout 3/new vegas"

can't wait to trade nuka cola bottle caps for plasma rifles.

shootin' radroaches.

killin what i eats

...jet addiction...

good times, good times.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 05, 2013, 10:27:47 am
Looks like it scheduled for Jan 28th now.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on January 05, 2013, 10:49:33 am
now it's no longer Months of waiting, it's only 23 days to go (xing fingers they don't push it to July)  :banghead:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: DaOld Man on January 05, 2013, 12:14:54 pm
Sorry, couldnt resist posting this:

Cheech and Chong - Dave's Not Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6wV7rAKMNE#)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Xiaou2 on January 06, 2013, 10:59:18 pm
Very classy Gray.  Its exactly what we expect out of you.

 Im guessing you dont have children.  If you do, then please give them to someone who cares enough to guide them by example, to be better than a negative trolling thug.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on January 07, 2013, 10:15:03 am
to be better than a negative trolling thug.

The irony, IT BURNS!
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 07, 2013, 11:01:24 am
to be better than a negative trolling thug.

The irony, IT BURNS!
:cheers:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Gray_Area on January 07, 2013, 07:55:42 pm
Sorry, couldnt resist posting this:

Cheech and Chong - Dave's Not Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6wV7rAKMNE#)


I think someone did post that vid in one of the Foley theads.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 30, 2013, 11:19:50 am
Quote
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Hon. Edward J. Davila: Hearing as to David Russell Foley held on 1/29/2013. Sentencing as to David Russell Foley set for 5/13/2013 01:30 PM in Courtroom 4, 5th Floor, San Jose before Hon. Edward J. Davila. (Court Reporter Irene Rodriguez.) (ecg, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 1/29/2013) (Entered: 01/29/2013)
Sentencing on 5/13.  Let's see if that happens or if it's pushed back even farther.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on January 30, 2013, 11:28:05 am
Sentencing?!  Convicted of what? 

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 30, 2013, 11:58:21 am
Sentencing?!  Convicted of what? 

AJ

It's all explained in this thread:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,117193.msg1241443.html#msg1241443 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,117193.msg1241443.html#msg1241443)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 30, 2013, 12:03:45 pm
 :lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: marioxb on January 30, 2013, 12:23:08 pm
OK, so I don't want to read every thread here. But the bottom line is,

So... you are telling me we aren't talking about this guy?
(http://www.starscolor.com/images/dave-foley-01.jpg)

I have no idea who the "other" Dave Foley is..
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on January 30, 2013, 12:26:17 pm
Nope, that's the dude right there.  I seen him!











































j/k

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Gray_Area on January 31, 2013, 01:05:27 am
I never liked Kids in the Hall. Cable TV, yo, and no cussing?  Don't think so. They weren't really funnay anyways.

Anyways. Foley was the creator of Ultracade...and some other things.

Haven't you guys watched any movies? You know, stall it in court for ten or twenty years.

Case in point, dated january of last year:

So one of the bigger stories I missed during this period was the plea deal for Mr. David Foley in regards to the Ultracade situation. Here was a post about the original allegations. He pled guilty to to conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and conspiracy to commit bank fraud with other charges being dropped; at this point he can argue for no time spent in jail and the government can argue to put him away for up to 41 months. I’m not sure when that sentencing will take place but we’ll probably hear about it before too long. (http://arcadeheroes.com/2012/01/19/catching-up-on-the-news-david-foley-plea-deal-acdc-pinball-release-vf5-tournament/)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on June 24, 2013, 11:28:36 am
Quote
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Hon. Edward J. Davila: Hearing as to David Russell Foley held on 1/29/2013. Sentencing as to David Russell Foley set for 5/13/2013 01:30 PM in Courtroom 4, 5th Floor, San Jose before Hon. Edward J. Davila. (Court Reporter Irene Rodriguez.) (ecg, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 1/29/2013) (Entered: 01/29/2013)
Sentencing on 5/13.  Let's see if that happens or if it's pushed back even farther.
Now it's scheduled for July 29. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on June 24, 2013, 12:27:42 pm
 ::)

I'm guessing they are hoping that by the time it ACTUALLY goes to trial, they would have forgotten what they were going for.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on June 24, 2013, 12:30:34 pm
Wager on how long until he actually gets sentenced?  Since PBJ left, I'm not convinced that he'll send me my money when I win.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on June 24, 2013, 12:34:59 pm
should have had a 3rd party hold the cash  :lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on June 24, 2013, 11:38:19 pm
should have had a 3rd party hold the cash IN HAND  :lol

FTFY
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on June 24, 2013, 11:57:41 pm
should have had a 3rd party hold the cash IN HAND  :lol

FTFY

i totally had the chance to be superawesomecool with that and i dropped the ball.

i'm ashamed.  :-\
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on July 31, 2013, 01:20:17 pm
And it's now set for August 19th, 2013.   


 :dizzy:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on July 31, 2013, 02:13:41 pm
*sad trombone*
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on July 31, 2013, 02:23:26 pm
*sad trombone*

The Price is Right losing horn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A#)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on August 20, 2013, 01:09:29 pm
And now it's scheduled for 9/9.  Not that anyone cares.  Or remembers. 

I think it's more than idiotic that it's gone on this long.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on August 20, 2013, 04:16:38 pm
 :woot
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Zero_Hour on August 20, 2013, 06:50:50 pm
And now it's scheduled for 9/9.  Not that anyone cares.  Or remembers. 

I think it's more than idiotic that it's gone on this long.

It doesn't keep me up at night, but I'm more than a little curious to see how it finally plays out. Thanks for the updates.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pinbot on August 23, 2013, 06:57:48 am
Just played UltraCade in arcade, and wow, this is tragic...  Even sent a message to the guy wondering what was up with this failing, as you'd think by 2013 that somehow, people would be able to license old-school (and semi old-school...) ROMs in machines that could be put out on the floor by operators/FEC/etc.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on August 23, 2013, 09:21:49 am
Just played UltraCade in arcade, and wow, this is tragic...  Even sent a message to the guy wondering what was up with this failing, as you'd think by 2013 that somehow, people would be able to license old-school (and semi old-school...) ROMs in machines that could be put out on the floor by operators/FEC/etc.

Well, the company that bought Ultracade from him salvaged what they could.
http://www.globalvr.com/products_gac.html (http://www.globalvr.com/products_gac.html)

EDIT: Every once in a while someone will come across an old Ultracade on site and then take to the internet proclaiming that they've ripped off Hyperspin.  :lol 
Maybe Dave should sue.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on August 23, 2013, 10:18:50 am
Just played UltraCade in arcade, and wow, this is tragic...  Even sent a message to the guy wondering what was up with this failing, as you'd think by 2013 that somehow, people would be able to license old-school (and semi old-school...) ROMs in machines that could be put out on the floor by operators/FEC/etc.

...or at least release an update to kill the screens linking a dead website.  :dunno
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Fursphere on August 23, 2013, 01:01:07 pm
The one Ultracade I've seen "on location" was such a pile of crap that I just walked away from it.

Mostly due to neglect - it was just tired and needed to die.. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on September 11, 2013, 09:20:44 am
Continued to 12/18/13. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on September 11, 2013, 10:24:22 am
he's not getting double time served is he?  :lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on September 11, 2013, 12:27:10 pm
I've about given up hope of seeing the resolution on this.  Hell, I forget what my wager was with PBJ now...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on September 11, 2013, 12:37:24 pm
He'd have to wear a "I heart wee-cades" T-shirt.

I've about given up hope of seeing the resolution on this.  Hell, I forget what my wager was with PBJ now...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Megaweapon on September 11, 2013, 10:58:22 pm
Well, the company that bought Ultracade from him salvaged what they could.
http://www.globalvr.com/products_gac.html (http://www.globalvr.com/products_gac.html)

But they don't sell the uVC, which is the only thing that anyone still cares about...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: danny_galaga on September 12, 2013, 12:57:49 am

What's the latest? Can someone post the most up to date link/s in the first post?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on September 12, 2013, 08:49:44 am
His attorneys were granted a continuation until December.  He's scheduled to be sentenced then.  That's happened numerous times now.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2013, 03:55:11 pm
Just played UltraCade in arcade, and wow, this is tragic...  Even sent a message to the guy wondering what was up with this failing, as you'd think by 2013 that somehow, people would be able to license old-school (and semi old-school...) ROMs in machines that could be put out on the floor by operators/FEC/etc.


Technically Tempest could be played on a track ball.  Spinners are two way optical.  A typical trackball could be too if you ignored any vertical movement.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: marioxb on September 17, 2013, 08:40:35 am
Just played UltraCade in arcade, and wow, this is tragic...  Even sent a message to the guy wondering what was up with this failing, as you'd think by 2013 that somehow, people would be able to license old-school (and semi old-school...) ROMs in machines that could be put out on the floor by operators/FEC/etc.


Technically Tempest could be played on a track ball.  Spinners are two way optical.  A typical trackball could be too if you ignored any vertical movement.

Uhh, are you quoting or replying to the wrong person there??
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on December 11, 2013, 12:25:14 pm
Looks like he's scheduled to be sentenced on 12/18 at 9:00 AM.  There was a motion entered yesterday to reduce his sentence. Docs attached. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 11, 2013, 12:37:19 pm
Only had time to read part of it so far, but this is interesting.....

Quote
I have have also purchased back from Global
VR the domain name from the original company, ULTRACADE.COM.

http://www.ultracade.com/ (http://www.ultracade.com/)

I've always wondered if he would sue Hyperspin if he still had the rights to Ultracade.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 11, 2013, 12:53:48 pm
I believe the wager was $5, and my position was that he was going to spend at least a year in prison.  Maybe it was six months.  I'm comfortable with either.

Document labelled 117-1.pdf in your attachment is quite the laugh riot if you need one.  I'd sum it up as "nobody died and I didn't know it was illegal."

He's going to do some serious time.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on December 11, 2013, 12:56:17 pm
By sentence, are you saying jail time?  If so, I'll take the under.  I'll guess that he doesn't spend any time, gets a hefty fine, probation and a bunch of community service hours.

Let's make this interesting.  How about $5?   ;D

Nah, but seriously, I'll take the over.  Any weird BS happens like delayed sentencing or he commits suicide and the bet's off.

In for $5.  Same number I had in mind, Jimmy.  I got under a year and a year is a push.  Suicide is win-win-win.
From page 1.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on December 11, 2013, 01:00:09 pm
Just bet 5 smokes.  We here at shawshank only bet smokes.

AJ


By sentence, are you saying jail time?  If so, I'll take the under.  I'll guess that he doesn't spend any time, gets a hefty fine, probation and a bunch of community service hours.

Let's make this interesting.  How about $5?   ;D

Nah, but seriously, I'll take the over.  Any weird BS happens like delayed sentencing or he commits suicide and the bet's off.

In for $5.  Same number I had in mind, Jimmy.  I got under a year and a year is a push.  Suicide is win-win-win.
From page 1.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 11, 2013, 01:06:37 pm
"I have been on supervised release for four and a half years, without incident. Rather than
wallow in self-pity, or blame others for my situation, I have taken on the responsibility for my actions
and have been rebuilding my life and making amends to those affected by the case at hand. I am
continually attacked on a daily basis on internet forums
for classic games and investments, and have to
live not only with the fact that I am a convicted felon, but that there are those people out there that will
never let me forget, and will let everyone that I do business with know it."

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 11, 2013, 01:08:42 pm
Sorry, sorry, just one more quote:

"At the end of the day, what would be gained by a lengthy prison sentence for me? And who would benefit?"

$5.  Me.

 ;D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on December 11, 2013, 01:16:56 pm
So, not wanting to re-live this thread, who has the biggest axe to grind around here?  And are you the real pbj?

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: PL1 on December 11, 2013, 01:33:23 pm
are you the real pbj?
Confirmed in another thread -- he's the real deal.


Scott
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on December 11, 2013, 01:37:26 pm
Of course it's PBJ. He's gone full Jim in other threads. >:D

I love the "Oh yeah, I take care of a homeless WWII vet, judge! Don't throw the book at me!" argument in those filings.

Hi, Dave. I know you still read these forums.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 11, 2013, 01:38:41 pm
So, not wanting to re-live this thread, who has the biggest axe to grind around here?  And are you the real pbj?

AJ

He tried to trademark the name M.A.M.E.
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=76627578&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch (http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=76627578&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch)

If you believe him, it was to prevent anyone other than MAMEDev from using it.
If you believe MAMEDev, it was so he could either market his own stuff using the MAME name, or destroy MAME because his own Ultracade machines would be worth more without MAME on the scene.

I tend to believe he wanted to stamp out competition.  I cut him some slack for being helpful to Ultracade owners who have posted here with problems.
EDIT: I don't think anyone here has an axe to grind from any personal dealings with him.  This isn't like Dave whatever his real name is at Ram Controls.


The third document lays out pretty plainly how the charges arose.
After taking over sales of Ultracade products, Global VR wondered why the distributors weren't buying game packs so they called them up.
Turns out they were still buying game packs from Dave.  :lol
Fired next day, then they sicked the FBI on him.

Sounds like a fustercluck of a merger where he tried to sneak millions of dollars of debt into the deal without them realizing it until the last minute.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 11, 2013, 01:53:26 pm
I always suspected pbj of being that Verizon employee in Texas who outsourced his own job to Chinese devs.
He had to delete all his posts to get rid of any time stamps that would have been during work hours.   ;)
(that would be most of them.....as would be for me)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on December 11, 2013, 02:00:03 pm
I had suspected Jim as being a retired member of Seal Team Six, and he was called on by the government to do "one last mission", which he did, until he realized that he was too old for this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, so he came back to us.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 11, 2013, 02:28:40 pm
I believe the second conviction was something along the lines of pretending he still had the Global VR gig and getting a second mortgage on that basis.

Anything related to MAME is a crock of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- best left ignored.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Haze on December 11, 2013, 03:08:32 pm
The irony of the whole MAME trademark thing is that it probably isn't even valid anymore.

Unlike copyrights you actually have to actively defend trademarks against abuse if they're to remain valid, and that hasn't been done (at least not in any effective capacity)

If he wasn't actually operating his own not-exactly-legal schemes (which he may or may not soon be paying a heavy price for) I dare say it might have actually been better off in his hands.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Thenasty on December 11, 2013, 03:11:28 pm
Is DF going to have Christmas in prison ?  >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 11, 2013, 03:46:18 pm
He's got a family to support and there's not really a victim here, IMO.  No dispute that kind of wrong doing isn't conducive to society but I certainly won't take much pleasure in seeing him receive a prolonged prison sentence.  It's still kinda funny, though.

 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: 404 on December 11, 2013, 03:51:33 pm
So, not wanting to re-live this thread, who has the biggest axe to grind around here?  And are you the real pbj?

AJ

$5.  Me.

 ;D

that isn't enough proof for you?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 23, 2013, 04:26:52 pm
Quote
David R. Foley ‏@davidrfoley  19 Dec 
@ggversace nothing happened on the 18th


 :dunno


Interview from November:
HERE (http://vimeo.com/79059185)

(byoac is trying to embed it, but failing)
I haven't watched it, but skipped through it.
Pretty dry, but goes through his history and recent projects if anyone is interested and has time to kill.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: McHale on December 23, 2013, 06:09:47 pm
Sorry, sorry, just one more quote:

"At the end of the day, what would be gained by a lengthy prison sentence for me? And who would benefit?"

$5.  Me.

 ;D

That has got to the be the funniest thing I've read in a LONG time.   :applaud:  Thanks PBJ for making my day.  I owe you a drink of your choice if you ever come to the Chicago-land area.

-Mc
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 23, 2013, 07:30:16 pm
That has got to the be the funniest thing I've read in a LONG time.   :applaud:  Thanks PBJ for making my day.  I owe you a drink of your choice if you ever come to the Chicago-land area.

You have an excellent sense of humor, friend.

Was riding the clock anyway, so I skimmed parts of that interview.  At one point, if I understood it correctly, he claims they bought up several hundred Nintendo boards and stacked them in a garage so that their ROM counterparts in the Ultracades were legal.  (Setting aside the fact I don't believe him....) Ugh, really?  We're back to THAT argument?  Yeah, no.



Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on December 23, 2013, 08:48:41 pm
says he's the guy behind 4k TV's

---fudgesicle---. me.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on December 23, 2013, 11:48:12 pm
Usually Mr Foley jumps in here and blows his trumpet.  I wonder who really coded Joshua and what parts of Mame was included?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: bradx on December 28, 2013, 06:10:45 am
He's got a family to support and there's not really a victim here, IMO.  No dispute that kind of wrong doing isn't conducive to society but I certainly won't take much pleasure in seeing him receive a prolonged prison sentence.  It's still kinda funny, though.
the victim is the public trust.  its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him.

anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose.  his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product.

in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation.  the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. 

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on December 28, 2013, 10:18:40 am
the victim is the public trust.  its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him.

anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose.  his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product.

in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation.  the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. 



this lawsuit he's currently tied up in has to do with claiming he still worked for Global VR when he went to a bank (or banks) to obtain loans, when in fact he was (very) recently let go after the licencing fiasco regarding Ultracade which he had sold to Global VR. (Global found out he was making updates for the software which was now theirs, and was selling them on the side)

so, he's at the bank when the bank wanted to "verify employment", he had them call a friend of his and have him state he was whoever from Global VR and that yes he was working for Global VR. The bank found out about the sham and promptly began proceedings against him.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Fursphere on December 28, 2013, 10:52:51 am
the victim is the public trust.  its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him.

anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose.  his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product.

in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation.  the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. 



this lawsuit he's currently tied up in has to do with claiming he still worked for Global VR when he went to a bank (or banks) to obtain loans, when in fact he was (very) recently let go after the licencing fiasco regarding Ultracade which he had sold to Global VR. (Global found out he was making updates for the software which was now theirs, and was selling them on the side)

so, he's at the bank when the bank wanted to "verify employment", he had them call a friend of his and have him state he was whoever from Global VR and that yes he was working for Global VR. The bank found out about the sham and promptly began proceedings against him.

I spent about three years working as an Underwriting Quality Control person in a "Fraud Detection and prevention" department at a major bank.  I used to catch stuff like this all the time.  Like - daily.  Doing background checks, digging into credit reports, etc.  It was fun but stressful stuff.   People would make paycheck stubs in MS Word and try to pass them off as legit.  Have there brother's girlfriends sounds uncle verify employment that didn't exist.  All sorts of crazy stuff.   Sometimes small loads, sometimes big loans.

But I never saw one person I caught outright committing fraud prosecuted or sued.  He must have really pissed someone off to get them to actually take him to court over it.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 28, 2013, 11:02:20 am
the victim is the public trust.  its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him.

anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose.  his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product.

in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation.  the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. 



this lawsuit he's currently tied up in has to do with claiming he still worked for Global VR when he went to a bank (or banks) to obtain loans, when in fact he was (very) recently let go after the licencing fiasco regarding Ultracade which he had sold to Global VR. (Global found out he was making updates for the software which was now theirs, and was selling them on the side)

so, he's at the bank when the bank wanted to "verify employment", he had them call a friend of his and have him state he was whoever from Global VR and that yes he was working for Global VR. The bank found out about the sham and promptly began proceedings against him.

I spent about three years working as an Underwriting Quality Control person in a "Fraud Detection and prevention" department at a major bank.  I used to catch stuff like this all the time.  Like - daily.  Doing background checks, digging into credit reports, etc.  It was fun but stressful stuff.   People would make paycheck stubs in MS Word and try to pass them off as legit.  Have there brother's girlfriends sounds uncle verify employment that didn't exist.  All sorts of crazy stuff.   Sometimes small loads, sometimes big loans.

But I never saw one person I caught outright committing fraud prosecuted or sued.  He must have really pissed someone off to get them to actually take him to court over it.

In the papers he filed to ask for leniency, he says that the bank never did take issue with it and he still has the loan and has made all payments.
He claims the guy who was in charge at Global VR at the time has a personal vendetta against him and sicked the FBI on him for both selling Ultracade gamepacks and lying about his employment during closing.  I dunno, but that's what is there.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 28, 2013, 05:58:13 pm
I really doubt that some lackey from Global VR controls the resources of the FBI.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 28, 2013, 06:18:15 pm
I really doubt that some lackey from Global VR controls the resources of the FBI.

 :cheers:

 :lol

Next time I'm bored at work and avoiding working, I'm gonna check into that guy and see what he's been up to since leaving Global VR.
Should we start a TMZ style subforum where we stalk tech people?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Xiaou2 on December 29, 2013, 01:34:51 pm
I think its a little bigger than this.

 On a site that posted the relevant information,  it claimed to have called up or emailed certain companies in Japan, asking to see if Foley had negotiated the rights to certain games.  They said No... had never heard of him.

 On that webcast... he mentions that when he couldnt get the rights... he went online to ebay, and bought older PCBs for the roms.   He figured that if he has the PCBs... he should own the rights to the games.  Everyone wants to believe this... but Im not so sure that is the case... most especially when you are re-packaging something commercial for sale.   Imagine trying to sell a used Sega Genesis game in a new bartop arcade box at Sears, without asking Sega...  but just putting the cartridge inside the thing.

 Then to find out on top of the fact most of his games couldnt be used, rendering his business model near useless...  he finds out that his Former is cashing in on his remaining territory.

 Because the IP was overseas, it makes it an International crime...  and because Global VR may not have known that over half their IP was bogus... (and now the info spread all over the net about it)  calling the FBI just may be within bounds.

 Its quite slimy, to say the least.

 
 Ohh, and no, hes not the one behind 4k tvs.  He just managed to capitalize on a MGFs faulty chip, and used another MFGs chip to get his foot in the door.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on December 29, 2013, 02:09:28 pm
I think its a little bigger than this.

 On a site that posted the relevant information,  it claimed to have called up or emailed certain companies in Japan, asking to see if Foley had negotiated the rights to certain games.  They said No... had never heard of him.

 On that webcast... he mentions that when he couldnt get the rights... he went online to ebay, and bought older PCBs for the roms.   He figured that if he has the PCBs... he should own the rights to the games.  Everyone wants to believe this... but Im not so sure that is the case... most especially when you are re-packaging something commercial for sale.   Imagine trying to sell a used Sega Genesis game in a new bartop arcade box at Sears, without asking Sega...  but just putting the cartridge inside the thing.

 Then to find out on top of the fact most of his games couldnt be used, rendering his business model near useless...  he finds out that his Former is cashing in on his remaining territory.

 Because the IP was overseas, it makes it an International crime...  and because Global VR may not have known that over half their IP was bogus... (and now the info spread all over the net about it)  calling the FBI just may be within bounds.

 Its quite slimy, to say the least.

 
 Ohh, and no, hes not the one behind 4k tvs.  He just managed to capitalize on a MGFs faulty chip, and used another MFGs chip to get his foot in the door.

Is he being sued for copyright infringement?

Has Nintendoh or Sega filled for damages?

You can get away with selling ROM chips if you hot glued them into the cabinets and used mame or Joshua to run the said game as it would be construed as fair use, especially if the board was deemed obsolete and the ROMS was considered as backups.

Besides we have gone down this route before.  Foley is being pinched for securing loans under false pretenses.

Unless you have found some evidence that contradicts this, and should be reported to the necessary authorities handling Mr Foley's case.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: MTPPC on December 29, 2013, 04:01:11 pm
..Foley is being pinched for securing loans under false pretenses...

So true dat. I especially like how xiau2 speculated on an international crime. Perhaps Foley's next trial will be in the Hague.  :dizzy:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Malenko on December 29, 2013, 08:03:47 pm
..Foley is being pinched for securing loans under false pretenses...

So true dat. I especially like how xiau2 speculated on an international crime. Perhaps Foley's next trial will be in the Hague.  :dizzy:

He has never let the facts slow down his opinions.  I actually bothered to read the links from the first 2 pages, and the charges were for using the ultracade name and selling items as official UltraCade items when he didnt have the rights to, and for lying on bank loan applications. Nothing I read specified copyright infringement of ROMs.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Xiaou2 on December 29, 2013, 08:25:19 pm
Sorry, but I dont have time to read legal jargon, or for that matter, every snipit on the net.

 I was basing my speculations on the Former things Ive read in a past article.  One that contained a lot more of the factual occurrences.  Whether or not they can be made into a legal claims, thats another story.

 As for the Fair Use claim.. thats still highly suspect.   As Ive said.. you would never get the green light to sell used sega genesis systems with a cartridge in it.. packaged in an arcade shell.. in a RETAIL outlet..  without getting proper licensing permissions.

 If you wanted to ebay the thing... then sure,  you could probably do it without issue.   (Maybe not with Namco... cause anything with Pacman on it... and they go Berzerk)    Probably ok to do it in a arcade... because nobody is gona peek inside anyways.  (although, there are no arcades anymore)

 Im pretty sure Fair Use is limited to personal properties.. rather than commercial business ventures.  But Im no lawyer.   Honestly, Im surprised that Nice Carvings hasnt gotten copyright notices on their reproductions.  As far as Ive heard, many print shops wont copy / print things that have known copyrights... such as Disney characters.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on December 29, 2013, 09:00:30 pm
i see company logos of like, Disney characters...comic book characters...etc and nobody is knocking down their doors with cease and desist notices. You know why? they aren't stirring the pot. they aren't trying to make money because of these characters.

i do however think that when companys capitalize on the character, IE, using the character itself to make money, they chance having the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- hit the fan.

Joe's towing using spiderman as the logo VS Spiderman Towing

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Malenko on December 29, 2013, 09:07:15 pm
Sorry, but I dont have time to read legal jargon, or for that matter, every snipit on the net.

If you are ignorant to the subject, why bother posting something irrelevant?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Fursphere on December 29, 2013, 09:19:31 pm
the victim is the public trust.  its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him.

anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose.  his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product.

in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation.  the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. 



this lawsuit he's currently tied up in has to do with claiming he still worked for Global VR when he went to a bank (or banks) to obtain loans, when in fact he was (very) recently let go after the licencing fiasco regarding Ultracade which he had sold to Global VR. (Global found out he was making updates for the software which was now theirs, and was selling them on the side)

so, he's at the bank when the bank wanted to "verify employment", he had them call a friend of his and have him state he was whoever from Global VR and that yes he was working for Global VR. The bank found out about the sham and promptly began proceedings against him.

I spent about three years working as an Underwriting Quality Control person in a "Fraud Detection and prevention" department at a major bank.  I used to catch stuff like this all the time.  Like - daily.  Doing background checks, digging into credit reports, etc.  It was fun but stressful stuff.   People would make paycheck stubs in MS Word and try to pass them off as legit.  Have there brother's girlfriends sounds uncle verify employment that didn't exist.  All sorts of crazy stuff.   Sometimes small loads, sometimes big loans.

But I never saw one person I caught outright committing fraud prosecuted or sued.  He must have really pissed someone off to get them to actually take him to court over it.

In the papers he filed to ask for leniency, he says that the bank never did take issue with it and he still has the loan and has made all payments.
He claims the guy who was in charge at Global VR at the time has a personal vendetta against him and sicked the FBI on him for both selling Ultracade gamepacks and lying about his employment during closing.  I dunno, but that's what is there.

You know - I had a few VPs in the company make similar comments.  "Every Identity thieves make loan payments"  and other comments on that line.  Money is money to that bank (now out of business).
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on December 29, 2013, 09:48:01 pm
Sorry, but I dont have time to read legal jargon, or for that matter, every snipit on the net.

If you are ignorant to the subject, why bother posting something irrelevant?

X's gotta X.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Haze on December 30, 2013, 05:18:35 am
i see company logos of like, Disney characters...comic book characters...etc and nobody is knocking down their doors with cease and desist notices. You know why? they aren't stirring the pot. they aren't trying to make money because of these characters.

really?  there are schools around here that have been forced to paint over Disney characters (provided to them by charity workers) due to trademark / copyright issues after getting attention in local news stories*.  Even if it's Snow White / Alice in Wonderland / Cinderalla you have to be very careful that they're not the Disney styled versions.

Disney is one the worst when it comes to this kind of thing over both trademarks and copyright and like to make it sound like they're doing you a favor by not just taking you to court.

The game companies are by comparison absolute angels, even EA / Blizzard.

* I have a feeling the papers contacted Disney hoping for some positive comments about the work done only to have it backfire completely.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: menace on December 30, 2013, 08:14:45 am
I looked into trademark stuff (albeit north of the border) and one thing that was abundantly clear is that if you don't defend your trademark at every opportunity than it can be forfeited or at least legally challenged.  So while I dislike all those disney moments where they go after little guys, I get why they do it.  Failure to do so would open them up to all sorts of legal challenges by other "dave foley" types who try and get away with as much crap as they can.  I gave up on trademarking a name for no other reason than I didn't want to waste my time policeing it--it wasn't that valuable..
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 30, 2013, 09:24:01 am
Just to clarify for those who don't have the time to read the stuff, he's never been charged with any kind of trademark or copyright infringement when it comes to the original IP holders of the games and actually did have licensing agreements with some of those companies.

He plead guilty to conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud.   The fraud being that he sold gamepacks for the ultracade as being produced by Ultracade Technologies when he no longer owned the company or had rights to the name.  Global VR noticed that Ultracade gamepacks weren't selling, so they called up the distributors and found out Dave was still selling gamepacks himself instead of directing people to the new owner (and his employer), Global VR.
He was terminated immediately.

In the papers filed by his lawyer, he claims the sale to Global VR never officially went through so he's only guilty of using the name of a company which is no longer in existence.  On the flip side, he also argues that he ended up paying Capcom royalties that  should have been Global VR's responsibility based on the sale agreement.  :lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 30, 2013, 10:07:37 am
That's a good summation, but I believe it was slightly more complicated.  If I recall correctly, he was selling the gamepacks through a third party on E-bay.  Some guy out of New Jersey? 

I can distinctly remember all the "our prices won't be beat!  at least $100 cheaper than other distributors!" stuff.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: spoot on December 30, 2013, 10:36:13 am
Readers Digest Version: The guy is a ---meecrob---.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: RandyT on December 30, 2013, 12:59:41 pm
IANAL, but if commercial infringing activities are observed, I don't believe there is any need for the IP holders to make a complaint in order for proceedings to begin.  It is a criminal statute, so there is no need for the JD to get permission.  It would probably have to be fairly egregious to happen without their involvement, but not absolutely necessary.  Of course, once such proceedings began, and the IP holders notified, few if any would be turning a blind eye to the situation.

Probably not relevant in this particular case, but the earlier remark about it seemed a bit off.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on December 30, 2013, 01:04:35 pm
Readers Digest Version: The guy is a ---meecrob---.

No he is a bona fide visionary.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ChadTower on December 31, 2013, 03:42:45 pm
Just to clarify for those who don't have the time to read the stuff, he's never been charged with any kind of trademark or copyright infringement when it comes to the original IP holders of the games and actually did have licensing agreements with some of those companies.


That would be because IP infringement is a civil offense and thus would be subject to civil litigation.  This is not a "charges" in this context.  If we're talking about being charged in this context it is because they determined it was being used to commit commercial fraud when he was selling it.  Just using someone else's IP is not criminal.  It is civil.

Bank fraud, on the other hand, is a felony.  That is very criminal and thus charges were filed.  Foley is facing severe criminal charges and also a heavy load of civil litigation.

It's very important to keep those two concepts separate.  It destroys the whole discussion to mix them.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: paigeoliver on January 01, 2014, 07:37:33 pm
If this garage full of boards exists then it could go a long way towards explaining why pcbs have gotten so much pricier since I got into the hobby.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BAMBOO on January 02, 2014, 04:42:42 am
I've learned over the years of visiting here that any topic concerning this guy is one to stay clear of and I always have avoided the Dave Foley threads, but I can finally say I'm happy he got what he deserves.

The Arcade Kingdom is now at peace...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 02, 2014, 09:11:21 am
I've learned over the years of visiting here that any topic concerning this guy is one to stay clear of and I always have avoided the Dave Foley threads, but I can finally say I'm happy he got what he deserves.

The Arcade Kingdom is now at peace...

You may be confusing him with Dave Adams, the star wars yoke/repro cab guy who took a bunch of people's money and never sent their parts.
I don't remember seeing any other threads about Foley on this board.


Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ChadTower on January 02, 2014, 09:34:28 am
If this garage full of boards exists then it could go a long way towards explaining why pcbs have gotten so much pricier since I got into the hobby.


It's straight across the board.  There's no way he has enough PCBs to affect the overall market.  Especially in your general area of b/w and really old games.  That's way outside of the Ultracade game list. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on January 02, 2014, 12:23:32 pm
Don't worry Paige, some of us caught the humor.   ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 22, 2014, 01:32:13 pm
Felt this should go here.

I just read this over at Kotaku and I thought I'd share:

http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889] (http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889)

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on January 22, 2014, 01:35:42 pm
Finally.  We can all rest.

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Malenko on January 22, 2014, 01:36:10 pm
Felt this should go here.

I just read this over at Kotaku and I thought I'd share:

http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889] (http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889)

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---

http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889 (http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889)

thats easier
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 22, 2014, 01:36:48 pm
Felt this should go here.

I just read this over at Kotaku and I thought I'd share:

http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889] (http://kotaku.com/founder-of-ultra-arcade-cabinet-company-gets-two-year-p-1506581889)

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---
Well, I owe PBJ $5.  PM me your address James and I'll send it over.   :cheers:

I'm not sure what I do now that I don't have to try logging into the system to check on his status.  It's been a long time of logging in and posting that it's been continued out even further....

Come back when you can Dave.  We miss ya buddy.  Enjoy your time in the pokey.  And getting the pokey.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 22, 2014, 01:44:10 pm
He last logged in Dec 18th, when we thought the sentencing would be.
I'm curious if he logged in because he was tempted to post in this thread.

It doesn't mean that he doesn't visit us without being logged in.

His twitter:
Quote
David R. Foley ‏@davidrfoley  13h 
The fight is far from over.  Lost a battle, not the war.  Now to the 9th circuit to get a second opinion.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on January 22, 2014, 01:58:26 pm
You get sentencing appeals even when you plead guilty?  Why tf plead guilty unless it's part of a deal in the first place.  I need to find out who his atty. is so I never ever mistakenly use them.  Perhaps some mandatory minimum or 3 strikes or something in play. 

Sadly I'm a bit surprised that people are looking at time for fairly rinky dink fraud of this level.  Hopefully its not taking up room needed for some murderer. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on January 22, 2014, 01:59:16 pm
Shame I missed him at CES, but I'm sure he will be out in less time with good behaviour.

I guess we should all take a lesson from this.

Maybe he will be sent to the Warm Springs Correctional Centre, so I can go visit.  ;D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on January 22, 2014, 02:12:13 pm
Man, we got beaten to the punch by Kotaku?  That's embarrassing.

pinballjim@hotmail.com

What am I going to spend that dirty, dirty money on....




Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: HaRuMaN on January 22, 2014, 02:13:31 pm
Man, we got beaten to the punch by Kotaku?  That's embarrassing.

pinballjim@hotmail.com

What am I going to spend that dirty, dirty money on....

You can buy a weecade from me... or one of my fightsticks you love so much...   ;D  (but not for $5... heh)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 22, 2014, 02:14:41 pm
Funds sent. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on January 22, 2014, 02:31:44 pm
Man, we got beaten to the punch by Kotaku?  That's embarrassing.

pinballjim@hotmail.com

What am I going to spend that dirty, dirty money on....

You can put it towards that twenty I never got.  :P
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on January 22, 2014, 02:35:39 pm
 
Funds sent. 


And already kicked to the real account so no backsies.  You just subsidized NetFlix for all my friends and extended family this month.   ;D

You can put it towards that twenty I never got.  :P

I know you're attempting to be funny, but you were given a simple challenge that you failed.  Nobody's perfect.

 :cheers:

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Paul Olson on January 22, 2014, 03:33:42 pm
Finally! I was starting to wonder if it would ever actually happen. At least now there will be an official record of him being a felon to warn people or companies who might do business with him in the future.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on January 22, 2014, 04:22:42 pm
Finally! I was starting to wonder if it would ever actually happen. At least now there will be an official record of him being a felon to warn people or companies who might do business with him in the future.

That is the problem.  When he is inside he will be learning all the tricks on how not to get nabbed. 

Getting charged for fraud in this day in age, is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on January 22, 2014, 05:18:47 pm
it was so long ago...what was the bet now?
over/under a year?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: 404 on January 22, 2014, 06:26:52 pm
nighty night

keep your butt hole tight
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on January 22, 2014, 06:51:05 pm
it was so long ago...what was the bet now?
over/under a year?
Line was set at year.  I took the under and he had over.  It was the perfect hedge on my side.   ;D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: kiwasabi on January 23, 2014, 12:27:14 am
Oops, replied to the other thread before seeing this one...

This guy added me on LinkedIn a few months back. Really had no idea he had this kind of background. People in coin-op sure can be shady.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 23, 2014, 10:00:17 am
There are a bunch of posts on various emu boards with the subject line that he is going to prison for selling MAME roms.  :laugh2:


Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on January 23, 2014, 10:15:56 am
And I got to brag to my wife I won a bet I made two years ago.  "Paying for NetFlix for your mom will be almost free this month!"

 :applaud:

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on January 23, 2014, 12:33:15 pm
Looks like they're going to let him run around until March 27th, then he has to self-surrender.
USA v. Foley Et Al Doc 124 Filed 21 Jan 14 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/201518152/USA-v-Foley-Et-Al-Doc-124-Filed-21-Jan-14#)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: deadmoney5 on January 23, 2014, 01:52:47 pm
You get sentencing appeals even when you plead guilty?  Why tf plead guilty unless it's part of a deal in the first place.  I need to find out who his atty. is so I never ever mistakenly use them.  Perhaps some mandatory minimum or 3 strikes or something in play. 

Sadly I'm a bit surprised that people are looking at time for fairly rinky dink fraud of this level.  Hopefully its not taking up room needed for some murderer.

That's the American way nowadays..people like this get years in jail..while the guy on his 5th DWI gets a fine..  Hell you could kill someone while intoxicated in your car and never serve time.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Mr. Peabody on January 29, 2014, 01:00:07 pm
And I got to brag to my wife I won a bet I made two years ago.  "Paying for NetFlix for your mom will be almost free this month!"

 :applaud:


The prodigal son returned!  But I forsaw this.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on May 05, 2014, 04:40:32 pm
Didn't feel like doing any real work for the last hour of the day, so I tried to dig up any new info on this.

Seems he avoided surrendering on March 27th by playing games.
http://adserv.stocksite.com/images/pubdocs/foley/Foley_DN158.pdf (http://adserv.stocksite.com/images/pubdocs/foley/Foley_DN158.pdf)

That couldn't have bought too much time, but I can't find anything more recent.


Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on May 05, 2014, 04:45:42 pm
Didn't feel like doing any real work for the last hour of the day, so I tried to dig up any new info on this.

Seems he avoided surrendering on March 27th by playing games.
http://adserv.stocksite.com/images/pubdocs/foley/Foley_DN158.pdf (http://adserv.stocksite.com/images/pubdocs/foley/Foley_DN158.pdf)

That couldn't have bought too much time, but I can't find anything more recent.
If his appeal goes through, I wonder if I can get my cash back from PBJ?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on May 05, 2014, 05:00:13 pm
He's still active on Twitter, so he either got his surrender delayed or they sent him to Club Fed.

Maybe I shouldn't have spent that $5.... 

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on June 12, 2015, 05:30:41 pm
Didn't feel like doing any real work for the last hour of the day, so I tried to dig up any new info on this.

Seems he avoided surrendering on March 27th by playing games.
http://adserv.stocksite.com/images/pubdocs/foley/Foley_DN158.pdf (http://adserv.stocksite.com/images/pubdocs/foley/Foley_DN158.pdf)

That couldn't have bought too much time, but I can't find anything more recent.
If his appeal goes through, I wonder if I can get my cash back from PBJ?

His appeal was recently denied.  2 years in prison, 3 years of supervised release, $5,000 fine.

I will rest easy with your $5.

Filed order (M. MARGARET MCKEOWN, MARY H. MURGUIA and MICHELLE T. FRIEDLAND) Appellant’s request to omit footnote one is GRANTED (Doc. 49). The memorandum disposition filed on March 25, 2015 (Doc. 48) is withdrawn. The Clerk shall file the new memorandum disposition concurrently with this order. Appellee’s unopposed motion to vacate the order granting bail pending appeal is GRANTED (Doc 50). This matter is referred to the district court for setting an appropriate self-surrender date. Appellant’s unopposed motion for an extension of time to file a Petition for Rehearing and/or Petition for Rehearing En Banc is DENIED AS MOOT (Doc. 51). [9499671] [14-10055, 14-10056] (PH) [Entered: 04/17/2015 10:40 AM]

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mgb on June 12, 2015, 05:40:06 pm
Funny story on this:
  One of the people convicted on this whole deal was the owner of Automated Services here in CT.
I have a comercial customer that gets parts from them.

The other day my customer call the owner Mike (who had already done his jail time for this matter) to try and get Global VR parts and Mike told him Global VR is no longer in business.

Of course as it turns out, they are very much in business but they won't do any dealings with the guy who tried to rip them off.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on June 12, 2015, 07:46:05 pm
Wow.  This is still going on?  Rediculous.  Hey, mgb...where in Ct are you?  I grew up in Manchester/S.Windsor area.

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: DietCoke on June 12, 2015, 08:25:37 pm
All I know is that I have an axel to grind with him.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mgb on June 12, 2015, 09:10:34 pm
Wow.  This is still going on?  Rediculous.  Hey, mgb...where in Ct are you?  I grew up in Manchester/S.Windsor area.

AJ

I'm in the New Haven area. Im familiar with the Manchester area. I did the fire alarm system in the Manchester hospital about 10 years ago and have done a fair amount of work out that way.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on June 12, 2015, 10:02:14 pm
Ahh.  New Haven.  Is richters still around with the "yard of beer"?  HA! 

AJ
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mgb on June 12, 2015, 10:06:44 pm
No Richters is closed.
there's still plenty of bars in New Haven though.

and of course that somewhat known Univertsity
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: nipsmg on June 22, 2015, 01:55:29 pm
UNH?   ;D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on June 22, 2015, 02:02:30 pm
NHCCLA

New Haven County College of Liberal Arts.   >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on June 22, 2015, 02:28:49 pm
So, he has a blog from prison on a website that helps white collar criminals transition ...... 
http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/ (http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/)

He's in Taft Federal Correctional Institution
(the minimum security satellite "camp" part that doesn't have any fences)

EDIT: http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html)

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on June 22, 2015, 02:41:03 pm
So, he has a blog from prison on a website that helps white collar criminals transition ...... 
http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/ (http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/)

He's in Taft Federal Correctional Institution

damn, this guy just want's in on ANYTHING don't he?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mgb on June 22, 2015, 04:15:02 pm
UNH?   ;D

Yeah, oddly enough University of New Haven is actually in West haven  :dunno
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on June 22, 2015, 06:56:38 pm
So, he has a blog from prison on a website that helps white collar criminals transition ...... 
http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/ (http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/)

He's in Taft Federal Correctional Institution
(the minimum security satellite "camp" part that doesn't have any fences)

EDIT: http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html)

Dude tried to fake his way into a loan.  Where's he supposed to go?  A super max?

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on June 22, 2015, 08:17:42 pm
So, he has a blog from prison on a website that helps white collar criminals transition ...... 
http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/ (http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/)

He's in Taft Federal Correctional Institution
(the minimum security satellite "camp" part that doesn't have any fences)

EDIT: http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html)

Dude tried to fake his way into a loan.  Where's he supposed to go?  A super max?

He didn't fake his loan, he gave out in inaccurate information, so a mere technicality.  I did plead guilty and he is having a nice time there.  Maybe he will make up a game about the experience.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: cw on June 23, 2015, 07:02:49 am
a long time coming... 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on June 23, 2015, 09:07:55 am
So, he has a blog from prison on a website that helps white collar criminals transition ...... 
http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/ (http://etikallc.com/planning-preparation-for-federal-prison/)

He's in Taft Federal Correctional Institution
(the minimum security satellite "camp" part that doesn't have any fences)

EDIT: http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html)

Dude tried to fake his way into a loan. 

I wouldn't even say that.  He lost his job just before closing and went through with closing. (which involved signing papers saying that the loan app info was accurate)

Where's he supposed to go?  A super max?

Even school playgrounds have fences.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on June 23, 2015, 09:26:40 am
I wouldn't even say that.  He lost his job just before closing and went through with closing. (which involved signing papers saying that the loan app info was accurate)

Hmm... not how I remember it but I'm not slogging through those documents again. 

Should be interesting to see how long it takes for his blog tone to switch from upbeat to defeated.  I give it another week or so.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on June 23, 2015, 11:32:33 am
Should be interesting to see how long it takes for his blog tone to switch from upbeat to defeated.  I give it another week or so.

(http://rs1img.memecdn.com/dont-drop-the-soap_o_1052004.jpg)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on June 23, 2015, 11:38:52 am
white collar jail these days is a cakewalk (depending on where you're from I guess) :lol

---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, this guy must have access to a computer to write the blog, no?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on June 23, 2015, 11:53:45 am
white collar jail these days is a cakewalk (depending on where you're from I guess) :lol

---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, this guy must have access to a computer to write the blog, no?

Quote
I thought that I would have access to email and the web, and that while removed from my family, I would be able to continue my career while incarcerated.  I had no idea how wrong I was.

While my institution is quite progressive, allowing me access to email and letters, I am not allowed access to the internet in any way.

I assume he's emailing the blog posts to the guy that owns the website.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: HaRuMaN on June 23, 2015, 12:04:32 pm
"Dear diary, today I dropped the soap..."
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on June 23, 2015, 12:07:53 pm
"Dear diary, today I dropped the soap..."

"...and that's why I plan on dropping it tomorrow, as well. Toodles!"
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Vigo on June 23, 2015, 12:33:01 pm
Isn't that the real prison transition anyway, from ---uvula--- to ---smurfette---? I look forward to the blog entry about his new husband, Rhino.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on June 23, 2015, 12:37:54 pm
Prison rape is hilarious, amirite?

:bat
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Malenko on June 23, 2015, 12:39:50 pm
Prison rape is hilarious, amirite?

:bat

8 out of 9 people like gang rape.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Vigo on June 23, 2015, 12:47:51 pm
Who said anything about rape? These days it is usually a voluntary insurance program. Once you're poked, you're protected.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: saint on June 23, 2015, 12:58:55 pm
Keep it... er.. get back to... er... oh hell, some bit of class and decorum please... :)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on June 23, 2015, 01:01:49 pm
Prison rape is hilarious, amirite?

:bat

Hey, it's one of the things that keeps me from breaking the law.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on June 23, 2015, 01:22:19 pm
I picture it more like when the Trailer Park Boys are in jail.
Good weed, activities, planning future business ventures with new friends.......
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: HaRuMaN on June 23, 2015, 01:30:26 pm
http://youtu.be/oBzvMLW0ii4 (http://youtu.be/oBzvMLW0ii4)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on June 23, 2015, 03:30:53 pm
I wish I could tell you that David fought the good fight, and the Sisters let him be. I wish I could tell you that but prison is no fairy-tale world. He never said who did it, but we all knew. Things went on like that for awhile... prison life consists of routine, and then more routine. Every so often, David would show up with fresh bruises. The Sisters kept at him, sometimes he was able to fight 'em off, sometimes not. And that's how it went for Andy...er I mean Dave  - that was his routine. I do believe those first two years were the worst for him, and I also believe that if things had gone on that way, this place would have got the best of him.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: DietCoke on June 23, 2015, 08:08:18 pm
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c5/c5da960dc7c029baaa04b31c885b42b859fa55319108da8df5dff77d818aa628.jpg)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: mcseforsale on June 23, 2015, 09:02:14 pm
I disagree.  I think Shawshank jokes are

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/mcseforsale/sweet.jpg) (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/mcseforsale/media/sweet.jpg.html)

AJ


(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c5/c5da960dc7c029baaa04b31c885b42b859fa55319108da8df5dff77d818aa628.jpg)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on August 04, 2015, 12:17:18 pm
"Thanks to a great commissary, we can buy fresh peppers, onions, avocados, tomatoes, chicken, brown rice, bananas, apples and limes. A couple other guys and I have a Sunday night spaghetti with fresh tomatoes, pepperoni and sausage. This week our neighbor made us a great dinner with hummus, peppers, chicken, sausage and cheese, with some pita bread."

He's eating better in prison than I do on the outside.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on August 04, 2015, 12:26:19 pm
I picture it more like when the Trailer Park Boys are in jail.
Good weed, activities, planning future business ventures with new friends.......
Hell, Ricky went back to jail just to play hockey.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on September 24, 2015, 03:30:07 pm
Anyone else keeping up with his blog?  It's great for spiking your blood pressure.

"I’m lucky that my work day is over by 11am, allowing me to take classes, work out, and enjoy most of the day. I get to work with my friends, and we are always busy so the time flys by. "

"Last night i completed my 42nd book. "

"I have just completed my 50th book since my arrival."

There's got to be a downside to this, right? 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on September 24, 2015, 03:36:01 pm
Anyone else keeping up with his blog?  It's great for spiking your blood pressure.

"I’m lucky that my work day is over by 11am, allowing me to take classes, work out, and enjoy most of the day. I get to work with my friends, and we are always busy so the time flys by. "

"Last night i completed my 42nd book. "

"I have just completed my 50th book since my arrival."

There's got to be a downside to this, right?

Where's his blog?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on September 24, 2015, 03:38:01 pm
http://etikallc.com/author/davidfoley/ (http://etikallc.com/author/davidfoley/)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SavannahLion on September 24, 2015, 03:41:07 pm
Does it count as a book if it has fewer words than the "See Spot run" series?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on September 24, 2015, 03:50:15 pm
Anyone else keeping up with his blog?  It's great for spiking your blood pressure.

I check in every once in a while.  The health updates make me jealous.
I'm here working a stressful sedentary job that's sending me to an early grave and he's spending every day reading, listening to music, and working out.
It sounds like a relaxing atmosphere.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SavannahLion on September 24, 2015, 06:26:12 pm
Ditto...

If I wasn't aware he was in jail, I'd think he's at one of those getaway retreats in the woods.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Hoopz on September 24, 2015, 06:56:26 pm
I'm hesitant to believe everything or anything he says. 

And you only do two days in prison:  day you go in and the day you come out.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on September 24, 2015, 08:29:54 pm
Well, you always know what I have to say about prison.  I've only been two places I didn't like and I sure don't want to go back to St. Louis, MO.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on September 25, 2015, 08:41:21 am
I'm hesitant to believe everything or anything he says. 

And you only do two days in prison:  day you go in and the day you come out.

He's in the minimum security "camp" next to the prison.  It's where the wealthy serve their time.
It doesn't even have fences. 

http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html)
I doubt it's as crazy as the guy in the interview says, but I'm sure it's the type of place where you can spend your days reading books and strolling the "campus" without too much worry.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Malenko on September 25, 2015, 02:00:53 pm
3 years and 8 months AFTER a thread is made, it gets moved. Is that a record?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on September 25, 2015, 02:20:40 pm
white collar prison is a quite a bit different from blue collar prison.

"Prison Lite" life is like being stuck in a hospital you can't leave. same food, a communal area to watch TV, and so on.

it's a far cry from federal-bang-you-in-the-ass prison. "Cry" the operative word there.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on September 25, 2015, 06:13:03 pm
3 years and 8 months AFTER a thread is made, it gets moved. Is that a record?

"Dude, do you still have that joystick for sale that you posted back in 2006?"
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SavannahLion on September 25, 2015, 06:18:57 pm
3 years and 8 months AFTER a thread is made, it gets moved. Is that a record?

"Dude, do you still have that joystick for sale that you posted back in 2006?"

Isn't this a family friendly forum?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on September 28, 2015, 05:50:49 am
Maybe they will let him out in January for CES to sell some more 4K TVs.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 07, 2015, 03:08:30 pm
"With 450 men living in tight quarters we have to interact with each other constantly. Building bridges is much more productive than building fences. Embracing the unique traits each man has, and looking for a way to positively interact makes our existence much better than building fences, and trying to avoid someone."

http://etikallc.com/author/davidfoley/ (http://etikallc.com/author/davidfoley/)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: JMB on December 07, 2015, 03:50:12 pm
Someone should reach out to the prison officials and tell them they should use their in-house talent to start up a yoke production line.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on December 07, 2015, 04:12:31 pm
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Here is what I’ve been busy with during the past 3 months:
Read 72 books
Written 323 letters

Good on ya Dave.

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Lost 48 lbs.

Right on! I could stand to lose some too.

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Spent 554 hours designing new products & writing patents

okay... gotta do something with your time I suppose.

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Written 12 chapters of my book 88 weeks
Written 3 chapters of my book In-Justice

uh oh.

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Completed 2 educational certificates
Started 5 more educational classes

It wasn't "book writing" and the other "product design" was it?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: dkersten on December 07, 2015, 05:55:48 pm
Does it count as a book if it has fewer words than the "See Spot run" series?
lol, half the Indie authors on Amazon think their 12 page brochure they spent "all weekend working on" is a "book" and wonder why nobody more than their mother is buying it.  More than half the books published never get more than one sale.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 07, 2015, 07:59:05 pm
Someone should reach out to the prison officials and tell them they should use their in-house talent to start up a yoke production line.
Wrong Dave.  That was Dave Adams (which was an alias of someone else)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: voltz on December 08, 2015, 02:03:39 am
Now we're coming up on two years so I'd imagine he's going to be out within another month or so?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 08, 2015, 03:13:52 pm
.....  :angel:

Decided I was being too mean.
It's already bad enough we're getting entertainment out of his incarceration.

Honestly I am a bit jealous.  I'm stuck working a job that is killing me while he is someplace where he gets to relax, read books & get in shape.
If he didn't have a family to take care of it would sound like a stress free existence.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on December 08, 2015, 05:43:15 pm
Now we're coming up on two years so I'd imagine he's going to be out within another month or so?

I think he's only been actually incarcerated for about 6 months now. the rest of the time was spent dicking around in the legal system.

It's "white collar" prison, he's been good, and he's been doing all the things the powers that be think he should be doing whilst in there. I'm not sure how often reviews come up, but I wouldn't be surprised if when his comes up, he goes up for consideration.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Mr. Peabody on August 29, 2016, 01:46:19 am
No entries since February.......  Dum da dum dum.....
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on August 29, 2016, 10:31:08 am
He should be in the halfway house around Christmas time. 

How about we have him as a guest speaker at Zapcon?  I think his story would be very interesting to collectors....

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: HaRuMaN on August 29, 2016, 11:16:29 am
He should be in the halfway house around Christmas time. 

How about we have him as a guest speaker at Zapcon?  I think his story would be very interesting to collectors....

This mean you're coming to ZapCon??
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: yotsuya on August 29, 2016, 12:29:48 pm
We'll schedule him after the Ted Talk on how to use a Raspberry Pi to make your grail arcade.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 19, 2016, 10:26:28 am
So, if my math is correct, Mr. Foley has been released.  Anyone heard from him?

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ChadTower on December 19, 2016, 11:56:25 am
Pics or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 19, 2016, 01:11:05 pm
The only thing my small mind could find:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117193.0;attach=354163;image)

https://youtu.be/wIct9ZyL2WA?t=57s (https://youtu.be/wIct9ZyL2WA?t=57s)

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ChadTower on December 19, 2016, 01:12:28 pm



That's a pretty good demonstration of exactly why regular tweeting presents no value.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: danny_galaga on December 20, 2016, 03:17:48 am



That's a pretty good demonstration of exactly why regular tweeting presents no value.

 ;D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: gdonovan on December 20, 2016, 06:35:06 am
I purchased some Quantum3D hardware from Dave in the past when I was collecting 3dfx stuff, he was always square with me.

Hope he turns things around.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: acvieluf on December 20, 2016, 09:11:00 am
After reading the first page of this thread, i read some articles of him when the lawsuits and prosecution happened.  Now he posts that he's getting back to work, and gets nothing but praise on twitter.  Do just his investors follow him?  Am i missing something? Cause i would think that "back to work" is the last place you'd want this guy to get to.    :dunno
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ChadTower on December 20, 2016, 10:31:37 am



OP can delete responses on Twitter, yes?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: acvieluf on December 20, 2016, 08:46:24 pm



OP can delete responses on Twitter, yes?

hmmm...i hadn't considered that.  A probability for sure.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: danny_galaga on December 21, 2016, 02:01:42 am
After reading the first page of this thread, i read some articles of him when the lawsuits and prosecution happened.  Now he posts that he's getting back to work, and gets nothing but praise on twitter.  Do just his investors follow him?  Am i missing something? Cause i would think that "back to work" is the last place you'd want this guy to get to.    :dunno

Maybe it's community service...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on December 23, 2016, 05:28:24 pm
I'm not exactly fond of the guy, but this dead horse you guys have been beating has turned to powder at this point. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on December 23, 2016, 08:29:05 pm
David Foley

David Foley

!!!DAVID FOLEY!!!

(https://i.sli.mg/i7UzES.jpg)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on December 27, 2016, 04:22:31 am
Last time I saw him was at CES 2014.  He was with an outfit called 4K or something like that was demoing 4K TVs. Coincidence?   

My guess he is back with them and will showcase some more of his 4K equipment.  I haven't seen the attendee list yet, so he might be there this year.

He has served his time and now is square with the house.  Hopefully things will turn around for him.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Mike A on December 27, 2016, 06:15:58 am
I am pretty sure all of the people he ripped off didn't get their money back. He is not square with them.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on December 27, 2016, 09:31:08 am
I am pretty sure all of the people he ripped off didn't get their money back. He is not square with them.

You might be confusing him with Adam Judd, aka Dave Adams (alias) of Ram Controls fame.

Dave Foley is the guy behind the commercially sold Ultracade multi-game arcade machine.
He pissed a lot of people in this hobby off when he tried to trademark the name MAME for himself.
(he claims it was to protect the name, others claim it was to prevent his competitors from ever using it)
Other than that, he really hasn't done anything against the arcade community.
He has announced arcade related products and failed to deliver, but unlike Dave Adams didn't take money for pre-orders.

If you're an investor in his penny stock (NTEK), you might have other things to complain about....and they do.  :lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Mike A on December 27, 2016, 09:52:19 am
I thought he stiffed people on pre-orders as well. Guess I should take a breath before I post.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: ark_ader on December 27, 2016, 08:35:04 pm
I am pretty sure all of the people he ripped off didn't get their money back. He is not square with them.

You might be confusing him with Adam Judd, aka Dave Adams (alias) of Ram Controls fame.

Dave Foley is the guy behind the commercially sold Ultracade multi-game arcade machine.
He pissed a lot of people in this hobby off when he tried to trademark the name MAME for himself.
(he claims it was to protect the name, others claim it was to prevent his competitors from ever using it)
Other than that, he really hasn't done anything against the arcade community.
He has announced arcade related products and failed to deliver, but unlike Dave Adams didn't take money for pre-orders.

If you're an investor in his penny stock (NTEK), you might have other things to complain about....and they do.  :lol

Let us not forget he was the first guy to code an arcade multi emulator.  So in theory he was entitled to MAME and its trademark.  Also he pulled his fair share of illegal eBay members out of auctions.  Then there was that twist of fate.  KLOV members are his groupies... :laugh2:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on February 12, 2018, 05:36:23 pm
Apparently the legal situation has made this quite the collector's item....

https://houston.craigslist.org/ele/d/arcade-legends-ultracade-game/6494084839.html (https://houston.craigslist.org/ele/d/arcade-legends-ultracade-game/6494084839.html)

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on February 12, 2018, 06:51:47 pm
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Since my purchase there was a lawsuit (google....(ultracade lawsuit) involving several companies because come to find out someone stole, copied and sold the games without permission. It's called copyright infringements and it is big time against the law. While there many machine sold and lots of individual games packs and games sold, the lawsuit did not pursue the end buyers (ME) because there was not intent or knowledge by any of the buyers.

still illegal.

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Also out of that less then 15 of them have the most sought after games that are games like Dig Dug, Galaga, Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, Q-Bert and many others games that I purchased legally for my system. (photos shown)

just because you where suckered into purchasing illegally stolen ROMS doesn't make them all of a sudden legal.

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I have been told the system is worth between 18k to 22k in auction to a buyer. So I choose a number in the middle and no auction fees need will need to be paid.

you were lied to my friend. CGC still sells these machines...and not for 18-22,000 either.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 12, 2018, 07:25:34 pm
20k!?

Shiizzzz I could put together a real arcade for that lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 12, 2018, 07:40:47 pm
20k!?

Shiizzzz I could put together a real arcade for that lol

You aren't kidding
games at 1k per or less + 1k for gas and all the new breakers, wire, and outlets.
don't think an extension cord and a kraken of powerstrips will cut it.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: B2K24 on February 12, 2018, 11:28:00 pm
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Why am I selling it? Well I was going to add it to my Will for my kids, but they are not acting right and I have decided to pass it to someone who will enjoy & appreciate it as much as I have and hell I could use the money while I'm alive.

 :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on February 13, 2018, 09:59:10 am
Quote
Why am I selling it? Well I was going to add it to my Will for my kids, but they are not acting right and I have decided to pass it to someone who will enjoy & appreciate it as much as I have and hell I could use the money while I'm alive.

 :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

yeah, that sounds like a story a scammy flipper would tell.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 13, 2018, 02:43:53 pm
20k!?

Shiizzzz I could put together a real arcade for that lol

You aren't kidding
games at 1k per or less + 1k for gas and all the new breakers, wire, and outlets.
don't think an extension cord and a kraken of powerstrips will cut it.


Never underestimate the power of some well placed power strips.  Here in hillbilly land we don't add more breakers, we just shove a 3 way splitter somewhere.  Just don't run the toaster and the microwave at the same time.  ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 13, 2018, 02:47:06 pm
Long as you don’t do want some cock Womble did where I work and plug 2x 3kw heaters into a coiled up 50m extension lead 1 meter away from the socket!!
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 13, 2018, 03:02:48 pm
lol, that sounds like an insurance scam gone awry. 
Title: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 13, 2018, 03:35:16 pm
lol, that sounds like an insurance scam gone awry.

He wasn’t that clever...

Its a long story but in a nut shell:

The fire alarm went into pre alarm so I told the apprentice to man the panel and I ran off to investigate the cause of the alarm.

I burst into a tiny office in the corner of the warehouse that’s filled with bad smelling probably toxic smoke caused by aforementioned extension lead melting into a goopy flaming mess and aforementioned cock womble sat at a desk typing completely oblivious to the fact!!

Needless to say I called him some pretty stern words and left before H&S turned up to spit roast him!
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 13, 2018, 03:38:04 pm
Yeah I know the type.  Sometimes people are so stupid that it almost wraps around and becomes impressive instead of sad.  ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 13, 2018, 03:41:54 pm
Yeah I know the type.  Sometimes people are so stupid that it almost wraps around and becomes impressive instead of sad.  ;)

Yup couldn’t agree more!

To say the least I was taken aback by his stupidity and that he was still conscious!!

The H&S dept did not find it so bemusing though....
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on February 13, 2018, 04:41:31 pm
Needless to say I called him some pretty stern words and left before H&S turned up to spit roast him!

Dude, WTF?  Do you work at PornHub?  I don't think that phrase means the same thing over there....



Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Mike A on February 13, 2018, 05:12:44 pm
 :o
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 13, 2018, 05:24:03 pm
Needless to say I called him some pretty stern words and left before H&S turned up to spit roast him!

Dude, WTF?  Do you work at PornHub?  I don't think that phrase means the same thing over there....

I wish I did LOL

And yeah it means the same over here ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 13, 2018, 07:43:47 pm
Maybe that's why so many women keep space heaters under their desks at full blast at work.... :-\
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on February 13, 2018, 09:48:18 pm
Maybe that's why so many women keep space heaters under their desks at full blast at work.... :-\

Maybe those space heaters are why one of them is always walking around asking if anyone else smells that burning smell.

I asked a professional once if menopause caused women to smell burning all the time.  Got called sexist.

What’s wrong with being sexy?

 :dunno
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 14, 2018, 09:07:49 pm
Maybe that's why so many women keep space heaters under their desks at full blast at work.... :-\

Maybe those space heaters are why one of them is always walking around asking if anyone else smells that burning smell.

I asked a professional once if menopause caused women to smell burning all the time.  Got called sexist.

What’s wrong with being sexy?

 :dunno

If pointing out a woman's ability to pick a space heater that uses up just enough amps on a circuit so that when some dude in another cube plugs in his phone charger it pops the breaker is considered sexist.....






Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 14, 2018, 10:32:02 pm
It's always annoyed me.  If women are cold they should just dress warmer.  Logically speaking the women can put on more clothes, but the men can only get so naked before they are reported to HR. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on February 14, 2018, 11:20:48 pm
Hard to type with cold hands.  Get a fan you land walrus.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 15, 2018, 12:33:14 am
1.  That's why man invented gloves.

2.  Remember I'm in the fattest state in the union.  At 225 I'm considered skinny around here.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 15, 2018, 02:16:57 am
That was always another bone of contention for me.
There was many times where I would be called to the call centre for the AC “not working/to hot/to cold” only to find the person who was to hot sat in a fleece when everyone else was in t shirts.

Needless to say eventually most of em worked out they got a Frosty response from me for being stupid and stopped asking.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: RandyT on February 15, 2018, 10:30:31 am
There was many times where I would be called to the call centre for the AC “not working/to hot/to cold” only to find the person who was to hot sat in a fleece when everyone else was in t shirts.

The world exists only to accommodate my need to express myself through fashion.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on February 15, 2018, 10:57:50 am
Just wait until you connive and backstab your way into management and have to diplomatically listen to this office drama ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- 3 hours a day.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 15, 2018, 12:41:21 pm
Nobody would hire me as a office dweller.

I dont tolerate idiots and have a sharp tongue.

Apparently.....
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 15, 2018, 01:09:41 pm
Just wait until you connive and backstab your way into management and have to diplomatically listen to this office drama ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- 3 hours a day.

I hear from my friends in management that dealing with HR is a treat though.

Nobody would hire me as a office dweller.

I dont tolerate idiots and have a sharp tongue.

Apparently.....

going from road tech to office computer guy was  :dizzy: but hey at least I'm no longer spending my time in a stripped down van that was freezing in the winter and sweltering hot in the summer.

I do miss the 2 to 3 hr drives in the country one-way where I didn't have to listen to another person's voice.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 15, 2018, 01:14:27 pm
HR never talk to me, Think they scared of me lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 15, 2018, 03:47:28 pm
HR never talk to me, Think they scared of me lol

That's the way to be.  Office politics are just like prison.... find the baddest person in the yard and scare the crap out of them.  ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 15, 2018, 03:50:38 pm
HR never talk to me, Think they scared of me lol

That's the way to be.  Office politics are just like prison.... find the baddest person in the yard and scare the crap out of them.  ;)

Ide never really thought of it like that but you have a point lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 15, 2018, 05:17:32 pm
Even though i'm not a dik in the office it's been pointed out to me multiple times by different people that they HAVE to be nice to me because I actually fix things and they need me. LOL!

Because God help them if they have to call the help desk for anything more than resetting their password.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Vigo on February 16, 2018, 12:00:52 pm
...the baddest person in the yard...

As an HR guy, I take that as a compliment.  >:D
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Nephasth on February 16, 2018, 12:10:20 pm
Is Dave Foley still alive?

Yeah?

Must not suck that bad to him...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 16, 2018, 12:42:56 pm
...the baddest person in the yard...

As an HR guy, I take that as a compliment.  >:D

The question is are you afraid of the bad tempered engineers lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Vigo on February 16, 2018, 02:58:33 pm
 :lol lol! I'm getting used to bad tempered engineers. I have accepted the fact that there is nothing on this earth that I can do to ever change an engineer's opinion. Option A is leave the Engineer alone. When this is not possible, option B is to aim to get them to be OK with not being involved with the process/decisions. An engineer actively disagreeing with you is a complete impasse. Avoid at all costs.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 16, 2018, 03:16:22 pm
:lol lol! I'm getting used to bad tempered engineers. I have accepted the fact that there is nothing on this earth that I can do to ever change an engineer's opinion. Option A is leave the Engineer alone. When this is not possible, option B is to aim to get them to be OK with not being involved with the process/decisions. An engineer actively disagreeing with you is a complete impasse. Avoid at all costs.

Sounds like you got us sussed hahaha
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 16, 2018, 04:40:29 pm
In defense of engineers, the reason you can't change their opinion is because it isn't an opinion.  It is a theory devised from the facts at hand... they are engineers after all.  ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 16, 2018, 05:23:24 pm
In defense of engineers, the reason you can't change their opinion is because it isn't an opinion.  It is a theory devised from the facts at hand... they are engineers after all.  ;)

Thanks Howard ;)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Vigo on February 16, 2018, 06:37:16 pm
 :cheers:  It is the truth. And for the record, I like all the engineers I work with. Even if they make my job crazy sometimes. Recent example:

I am building out training for a new equipment system we are developing. The system contains a chemical mixing chamber, a waste collection pan, and a chemical bottle that feeds into the system. I have develop training for our technicians to assemble. In the training, I tell technicians to connect the chemical jug to the hose that leads to the mixing container, and waste will be disposed of in the drain pan.

Engineer looks at it and rejects the training, because I correctly labeled the mixing container, but the chemical jug is really a chemical container, "Jug" is just not a term any engineer can accept, and the drain pan, is considered a "drain container", because of its parts classification it is too deep to be a pan.

So his proposal is that I train technicians to connect the container to the container that drains into the other container.  Thus began my two week journey that ultimately ended in creating a "engineer to technician" translation dictionary.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 16, 2018, 09:16:23 pm
You aren't going to believe this, but honestly I prefer the latter explanation.  I would suggest you designate them as container a, container b, and container c to alleviate confusion.  Believe it or not, terms like drain pan and jug can be regional, especially if you have some workers that weren't originally from the US. 

Then again I'm a programmer, and we have our own issues. 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Vigo on February 17, 2018, 01:45:34 am
I'm sure you are used to having subsets of the same name as a programmer. Technicians tend to need to be handed terms or they make up their own thing, which is funny because we deal with regional terms as part of our training problems. One of our training technicians just recently got called out for referring to epoxy as "Wet tape". There are references in our tech manuals to attaching cabling using "batmen" thanks to regional lingo.

The problem in this case was that they are wildly different things. One is a chemical bottle, similar to a bleach bottle. Another is an internal component and the third is a remote, large metal basin. If they were 3 similar things, I would have been much cooler about calling them the same thing.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on February 17, 2018, 01:51:28 am
That made me chuckle lol

But yeah like Howard said some of those terms are regional.

A jug for instance is a small hand held measuring device over here.

My advice to you would be call it what it is.
A apple is a apple ya know.

If when you built the thing your guys called it a chemical bottle call it that no need to change the name unless its inaccurate.

I understood your first terms but the second lot confused me lol
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: BadMouth on February 17, 2018, 07:16:35 am
So his proposal is that I train technicians to connect the container to the container that drains into the other container.

One time I had to travel to set up shop and train some people due to a dept being relocated to different city.  The job was basically just repackaging items from bulk for individual sale.  Had a woman who insisted on referring to everything as a "unit".  "Put a gauge and a pack of hardware in the plastic shell, then insert that into the box and put a label on it". She'd reply "so I take this unit and that unit and put it in this unit".  It was even more weird when she announced that she ran out of units and then had to further explain which unit she was talking about.  She would also ask whether she should use this unit or that unit while holding up identical  boxes at a distance.  I don't know if she was trying to sound technical or had worked in a factory where they called every damn thing units.

Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on February 17, 2018, 12:50:25 pm
My advice to you would be call it what it is.
A apple is a apple ya know.

except when you are a programmer.

in a failsafe system, to differentiate NO data from ZERO data.
because if you have a sensor failure or disconnect, the input reads continuously low, you need to be able to differentiate that..

00000000 = no data incoming opposed to it having an actual value of zero, otherwise on failure the system would continue to operate as if the value was "zero" instead of halting.


so you can't count from "zero". so you need to count from one.

00000001 = 0
00000010 = 1
00000011 = 2
.
.
.
11111110 = 253
11111111 = 254

but knowing this, leads to some interesting conversations with people who have no idea.

"what is the current data of the X sensor?"

"nothing"

"nothing or ZERO"

"I don't know... it's nothing it's showing nothing"

"so it showing as blank?"

"no it has 3 zeros"

 :dizzy:

okay the sensor value IS zero then.

"what is the value of Y sensor then?"

"nothing"

 :banghead:

*Disheartened sigh*

".........nothing....... or ZERO"

"nothing"

".....like blank?"

"yeah, like blank"

"HALLELUJAHHHHHH"
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: SNAAKE on February 17, 2018, 01:00:06 pm
why would banks loan an "employee" 3 million dollars tho ???

what happened to that money?
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: pbj on February 17, 2018, 01:14:25 pm
Seems like most sensors I’ve used (not many) all differentiate between zero and no value....

 :dunno
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Howard_Casto on February 17, 2018, 02:29:06 pm
Most do, you are correct, but lilshawn is also correct.... especially on older systems you'll see data similar to what he is saying. 

I know the fact that, sensors aside, the opposite is true and most programmers consider "0" a "1" which confuses the heck out of normal people.  We don't waste data space and properly defined numeric variables default to 0, so in an array or enumeration, 0 is just the first selection of data.  Strangely enough, where we dig around in INI files and various text based configuration files in this hobby, we are all used to starting with 0, so even if you aren't a programmer you have a leg up on the "normies". 
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: B2K24 on February 18, 2018, 02:30:41 am
So he only got 2 years and $5K fine?  :o :o :o

The mofugger scammed millions right? If he's out by now he's come home to fat stacks that were probably burred somewhere.

Seems like he made out like a bandit unless I'm not understanding all of it...
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: dkersten on February 28, 2018, 02:00:50 pm
Engineers only get pissy because they see a way to solve a problem and automatically assume it is the best way, and all other ways don't make sense to them, even if they work perfectly fine and just as effectively.  Especially if they didn't think of that alternative way to accomplish the same thing.

And "region" always plays in, no matter what you look at.  That container may be a jug to everyone, or maybe it's a pitcher.  And in programming, depending on what language you are working in (i.e. what "region" of programming you are in), zeros and nulls may be the same, or may not.  Heck, even within one language it may be different depending on the situation.  Zero and Null can both be false, or a zero can be true.  And a zero and a one can both be true, or one could be false and one true.  :dizzy: 

BTW, even google doesn't know what a proper jug is.  Google "jug" and you get a bunch of pictures of pitchers.  A jug is what moonshine came in before they started using jars.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: RandyT on February 28, 2018, 06:20:04 pm
Engineers only get pissy because they see a way to solve a problem and automatically assume it is the best way, and all other ways don't make sense to them, even if they work perfectly fine and just as effectively.  Especially if they didn't think of that alternative way to accomplish the same thing.

No, engineers get pissy when they have to figure out the problems caused by people who have that mindset, when in reality they possess only a superficial understanding as to why things are done as they are.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: dkersten on February 28, 2018, 07:30:35 pm
Engineers only get pissy because they see a way to solve a problem and automatically assume it is the best way, and all other ways don't make sense to them, even if they work perfectly fine and just as effectively.  Especially if they didn't think of that alternative way to accomplish the same thing.

No, engineers get pissy when they have to figure out the problems caused by people who have that mindset, when in reality they possess only a superficial understanding as to why things are done as they are.
Lol!  Doctors and Engineers seem to always think they are the only ones who understand. 

I will admit, I have been on both sides of this.  I've come up with solutions to complicated problems that people ignore, thinking they have an easier solution simply because they don't understand the underlying issues or the damage they are inadvertently doing with their shortcut.  And I have been schooled by people who are otherwise looked at as idiots when they come up with a solution to a problem that is orders of magnitude simpler than my solution as well as more effective.

In an engineers eyes, when you solve a problem or build something that works without their help, you just got lucky.  Because as you just said, there is no way any of us non engineers have more than a superficial understanding of why things are the way they are. 

For me, my greatest regret is having studied physics for several years in high school and college.  I was so much happier when I didn't have a clue how the world really worked.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: lilshawn on March 01, 2018, 02:45:36 pm

BTW, even google doesn't know what a proper jug is.  Google "jug" and you get a bunch of pictures of pitchers.  A jug is what moonshine came in before they started using jars.   :cheers:

Don't google images of podium.  (the thing you stand on when receiving medals NOT  the thing you stand at when making a speech which is a "lectern" but everyone says podium.)
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Vigo on March 01, 2018, 04:49:02 pm

BTW, even google doesn't know what a proper jug is.  Google "jug" and you get a bunch of pictures of pitchers.  A jug is what moonshine came in before they started using jars.   :cheers:


When I google for a "jug", I always search for them in plural.
Title: Re: Sucks to Be Dave Foley...
Post by: Titchgamer on March 01, 2018, 05:15:58 pm

BTW, even google doesn't know what a proper jug is.  Google "jug" and you get a bunch of pictures of pitchers.  A jug is what moonshine came in before they started using jars.   :cheers:


When I google for a "jug", I always search for them in plural.

True dat!