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Main => Project Announcements => Topic started by: Kurt on January 31, 2010, 08:50:35 pm
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I have been reading this forum for months now working out a design for an arcade cab then got side tracked on building a pinball cab.
Size was built around a widebody lockdown bar and a 42" Sharp Aquos .
Few pics of whats been done so far
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/SLRdec09tojan10001.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0432.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0433.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0434.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0448.jpg)
LCD test mount, the back is still to be raised another 2"
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0450.jpg)
Hope you like it.
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Awesome.
I so want to build
one of these.
However the 3 monitor
price tag is holding me up.
Going to be watching this build.
Best of luck.
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Gonna be nice, looks great already!
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:o this is lookin good so far! Wanna build one so bad but i still gotta finish my current project and don't know if i can manage another big project. May end up building a portable one. Anyway keep us posted.
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Thanks guys it's been fun to build so far, its my first project working with wood so im pretty happy with how it's turning out.
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Finished routing the door and attached with lock.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0453.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0455.jpg)
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Welcome to the forums! Looking great! This is my next project.
Would you mind sharing the dimensions of the body?
Also, what do you have planned for the backglass and DMD?
Keep the pictures coming. ;D
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Looks fantastic so far. I assume that pull-out drawer will be for the computer?
Where did you get your hardware (legs and lockdown bar)?
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Thanks Guys.
Welcome to the forums! Looking great! This is my next project.
Would you mind sharing the dimensions of the body?
Also, what do you have planned for the backglass and DMD?
Keep the pictures coming. ;D
I'll be sure to post sizes.
I bought a 32" Sharp Aquos for the backbox but my partner ended up stealing it for our bedroom so i need to source another. DMD is a 19" 4:3 LG LCD
Looks fantastic so far. I assume that pull-out drawer will be for the computer?
Where did you get your hardware (legs and lockdown bar)?
Yeah the draw is for the PC to mount to also makes it easy to remove out of the cab.
Most of the gear was bought through www.pinballlife.com (http://www.pinballlife.com)
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Started working on a 3d model to help with the backbox design, thought id post it at its current state to help people with the overall cab dimensions. Keep in mind all material is 16mm MDF
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/cab2-2.jpg)
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Appreciate the post of the model, but unfortunately none of the dimensions are readable, since the forum shrinks embedded images... :(
You might try attaching the file instead of linking to it, since attachments can have a higher resolution.
I extracted the photobucket URL and looked at it that way, but other, less computer savvy visitors may not figure out that workaround.
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Appreciate the post of the model, but unfortunately none of the dimensions are readable, since the forum shrinks embedded images... :(
You might try attaching the file instead of linking to it, since attachments can have a higher resolution.
I extracted the photobucket URL and looked at it that way, but other, less computer savvy visitors may not figure out that workaround.
Just drag the image into the address bar and it will open it full res. ;)
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I usually just zoom to 150% with explorer.
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Just drag the image into the address bar and it will open it full res. ;)
Hey, you can teach an old dog new tricks... ;)
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Main peices of the backbox have been cut, also made a router template for the DMD and speakers.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0553.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0554.jpg)
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Did alittle more work on the backbox today, only alittle more to do and its ready for prep.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0558.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0562.jpg)
:)
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Damn that's looking good!
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Very Nice. Really making me want to finish my cab so I can start a new project ;)
What will be on the slide out self thinggee? and does it slide out the back? Just for PC access maybe?
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Thanks :)
Very Nice. Really making me want to finish my cab so I can start a new project ;)
What will be on the slide out self thinggee? and does it slide out the back? Just for PC access maybe?
The drawer is for the pc parts to be mounted to allowing easy acces and removal.
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Looking good!
Question: How did you attach the DMD monitor to the wood face?
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Looking good!
Question: How did you attach the DMD monitor to the wood face?
The 19" LCD is pushed up against the DMD hole and sinks bellow the backglass into the main cab. I made a wood block that mounts to the LCD that also stops it from falling bellow the reces.
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Jesus!! This thing is AMAZING!!
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Wait, so this thing is going to have 3 monitors? :dizzy:
Looking real good. :cheers:
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Jesus!! This thing is AMAZING!!
Thanks :)
Wait, so this thing is going to have 3 monitors? :dizzy:
Looking real good. :cheers:
Yep 3 LCD's
1x 42" Aquos for the playfield
1x 32" Aquos for the Backglass
1x 19" LG LCD for the DMD
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Started painting some of the panels today and its safe to say never again will i try and attempt piano black its just to hard with a pressue pack can and it was windy as hell with no escaping it.
spray putty
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0565.jpg)
Primer
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0563.jpg)
gloss black
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0566.jpg)
Clear coat is still to go on then ill wait a week for it all to go hard before i start to polish it.
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Wow, your doing a very thorough job at detail. Thinking everything through fist before just going to wood. Very well built. What software are you going to run on it? Future Pinball?
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most people run visual pinball and future pinball for maximum table count.
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I wasn't sure if he had some secret idea for software under his sleeve for pinball. (Something for linux...)
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Sweet paint job, Kurt! Very clean. How many coats are on that piece?
BTW, what kind of router edge did you do to the DMD and speaker holes? I'm ready to do mine, but I'm scared to start since there's no undo button in real life! hehe. I was thinking of a rounding bit, but a couple of tests I did the 45deg chamfer looked pretty clean.
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Pinball wizard: Thanks for the comments, Malenko hit the nail on the head.. Front end ill be running Hyperpin.
Elfman12: Thanks mate, i think i used a cove router bit, not sure i tested afew before i did it on the main peice.
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Threw in a shelf to hold the 32" display before i pull it apart to glue and fill then it should be ready for priming tonight with any luck..
Quick picture to make sure it all fits. I havent added any mount yet so the monitor will sit straight once i have them and glass in.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0571.jpg)
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Thanks, that backbox is going to be super sweet. Great fit and didn't have to de-case!
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It doesnt look super sweet at the moment it's covered in polly filler.
I built the box to fit around the tv so i ddnt have to de-case it more protective that way i guessed.
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Yeah, I'm starting the sanding on mine now and there's putty all over. But as soon as the primer goes on, it'll be gone! hehe
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Got alittle bored while waiting for the backbox to dry so i started the backplate and glass retainer.
Getting a pretty good reflection considering its covered in dust and still needs a 1200 sanding and polish.
Hopefully have the backbox 80% completed this arvo just waiting on fans and grills to turn up and throw some glass in there.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0573.jpg)
DMD test, couldnt resist
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0574.jpg)
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OH MY GOODNESS! Fantastic!!!
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OH MY GOODNESS! Fantastic!!!
Thanks ;D
Received my 120mm Fans with red LED's and grills today so i can finish up the backbox and move onto spraying the main cab.. I can slowly see the finish line then onto wiring it all up my least favourite job..
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Aww man, every time I come on here I see these great projects. I gonna have to make one of these sometime ....
Looks stunning btw!
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Aww man, every time I come on here I see these great projects. I gonna have to make one of these sometime ....
Looks stunning btw!
Thanks mate back at ya, ive been watching your viewlix build since it started and it's something id love to build.
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Finally got around to mounting the playfield with the correct depth before i pull it all apart.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0642.jpg)
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jeezeez. Über skillz u got Kurt! Amazing all together. Love it. Want it. :notworthy:
Gonna watch this topic for more sweet sweet pictures, progress and comments!
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I dunno anything about pinball but are these games running on mame or...?? looks good.
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Wow, that's nice.
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vebbomania: Thanks for the nice comment. Its getting there slowly.
SNAAKE: Im running hyperpin as a front end and visual pinball and future pinball both have some nice fullscreen tables .
patrickl: Cheers ;D
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Hey Kurt
Good looking project you got there!
Most of the gear was bought through www.pinballlife.com (http://www.pinballlife.com)
Would you mind posting the part numbers for the parts (lock down bar, legs etc.) that you bought from pinballlife?
I'm using your (and elfman12's) project as a reference for my own project (planning phase / 3D modeling).
Razzer
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Hi Razzer,
Thanks mate.
1x Set of Williams/Bally Black Legs - Set of 4 Product ID : pbl_C-10843-2
4x Williams/Bally New Style Leg Bracket Product ID : pbl_01-11400-1
4x Black Leg Bolts Product ID : pbl_4322-01125-40B
1x Stern Button-Guard Side Rails - Black Product ID : 535-9596-00-535-9596-01
I sourced 1x Bally Williams Wide Body Lock Bar from http://www.pinballspareparts.com.au (http://www.pinballspareparts.com.au)
Buttons, coin doors, ball shooter etc i sourced from afew online pinball stores.
Hope this helps.
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Hey Kurt
Thanks, that's just what i needed.
Razzer
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Amazing. The quality and ingenuity of the people on this forum is awesome. I've seen some other pinball cabs that looked ok, but they didn't go the full distance to making it look 100% like a real pinball machine. I mean with the legs and the coin door. It's gonna be sweeeeeeet. :cheers:
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This project is absolutely amazing.. would love to have one of these standing in my basement.. :notworthy:
keep up the good work..
How is the dept-perspective of such a pinball game?? i mean, how is the 3d feeling of the ball running in different heights when running on the tracks??
hope you can understand what i am asking?
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Thanks for the comments guys :)
Amazing. The quality and ingenuity of the people on this forum is awesome. I've seen some other pinball cabs that looked ok, but they didn't go the full distance to making it look 100% like a real pinball machine. I mean with the legs and the coin door. It's gonna be sweeeeeeet. :cheers:
I have tried to put some attention into the cab design from working with pictures as i havent seen or used a real pinball in 10-15 yrs.
This project is absolutely amazing.. would love to have one of these standing in my basement.. :notworthy:
keep up the good work..
How is the dept-perspective of such a pinball game?? i mean, how is the 3d feeling of the ball running in different heights when running on the tracks??
hope you can understand what i am asking?
Tables that i have tested look pretty good and the ball speed and movements feel as good as they would get with a virtual setup.
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@Kurt,
Very nice! I think a V.Pinball cab like this is where a glossy black really shines (pardon the pun)...really compliments the look imo. I think any guy space in the basement needs one of these to really be "complete"...without one you will just be left wanting... /sigh
:cheers:
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@Kurt,
Very nice! I think a V.Pinball cab like this is where a glossy black really shines (pardon the pun)...really compliments the look imo. I think any guy space in the basement needs one of these to really be "complete"...without one you will just be left wanting... /sigh
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;) paints come up ok i think real sunlight doesnt show off your painting skills all that much but inside under lights it looks nice.
Rest of the cabs sides and back will have black vinyl for now until i get my artwork sorted out.
I wish i had a basement id be lucky to get a corner of a room at my joint.
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Small update, I added some extra admin buttons and drilled two holes in the base for the fans.
Primed sanded and primed some more then worked on the black that should reflect the playfield nicely.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0645_edited-1-1.jpg)
Still waiting on Glass and Vinyl and a few buttons to finish the cab and backglass.
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Threading a leg bolt and having none spare... priceless :censored:
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Threading a leg bolt and having none spare... priceless :censored:
Are you using the black ones for the Stern legs? Mine would just BARELY make it into the back plate, and I couldn't even get half of the nuts on them. When I added the padded protectors, it just got worse. :angry:
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Yeah man its a very tight fit.
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Had a good start to the day after managing to thread two leg bolts and dropping the backbox door on the floor i decided to take the dogs down to the beach and then start again.
A few progress shots.
Full cab.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0648.jpg)
Insight to the way i mounted the LCD.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0649.jpg)
Insight to the DMD etc.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0650.jpg)
Currently working on a bezel cover for the playfield LCD.
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3mm MDF Bezel - Mark I
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0653.jpg)
Some days you should know when to quit.. Measure Twice :banghead: cut once.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0652-1.jpg)
I know its not much but it will annoy me so i will make another.
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I can't even see this issue in that photo, what's wrong?
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I can't even see this issue in that photo, what's wrong?
The mdf bezel on the LCD is out by 2mm, you can see the LCD metal frame :P
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I can't even see this issue in that photo, what's wrong?
The mdf bezel on the LCD is out by 2mm, you can see the LCD metal frame :P
Ahhh...
In that picture it looks like it is just the depth of the wood we are seeing.
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Yeah its not a very good picture :-\
I'm hanging out to get the glass and vinyl so i can finish it up and start a mame cab, this project started out to test the waters with my woodworking skills or the lack off i had at the start of the build.
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Can I trouble you to ask you a bit about your paint method.
Spray Putty
Spray Primer
Paint
What exactly is the Spray Putty?
Primer I'm sure its obvious
What paint are you using? Enamel or something like that?
I'd like a shiny coat on my Juke when ever I really tackle it, but I saw this and I was in awe.
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this project started out to test the waters with my woodworking skills or the lack off i had at the start of the build.
I'd say you definitely have the skills. The woodwork and painting looks very professional and well thought out. Very impressive overall. :applaud:
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I can't even see this issue in that photo, what's wrong?
The mdf bezel on the LCD is out by 2mm, you can see the LCD metal frame :P
2mm! that's practically the width of the Yarra errr I mean the Swan river. Straight to the shame corner for you :P There might be a one or two folks watching my thread, but I'm watching this like a hawk. :lol I love this cab man. This looks all set to be one of the best examples of virtual pinball cabs I've seen. You know you're going to be the envy of all your mates when this gets up and running. How many want one already?
:cheers:
Ond
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Kizer: Its automotive putty used on cars along with the primer gives a very smooth surface just need to sand in between coats. Paint i used was black gloss enamel 3-4 coats depending on area i was painting along with wet sanding between coats followed by 2 coats of enamel clear coat for that extra shine.
RobotNinjaTim: Thanks, I'm hoping so there is alittle more involved in a mame cab i think but im yet to sign off on a design im 100% happy with.
Ond: 2mm is alot when i have to look at it all the time ;) Im honored to know your watching it more so that you think its a good example of a virtual pinball cab, but i have to say if it wasnt for everyone before me who has built on of these i would never of known where to start.
Alot of people have asked me how much it costs to throw one together and before i let them finish i throw out a NO im not making another one! Unless someone donates me a CNC machine >:D
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After getting smashed by the storm last night i got a day off work as we had no power so i decided to take a chance at painting the lockdown bar to suit the rest of the cab.
cleaned, Primed twice and sanded in between then spray putty 2 coats with light sanding in between and 2 coats so far of black still needs a wet sand and an extra coat.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0678.jpg)
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0681.jpg)
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Just ordered the rest of the bits and pieces I have been meaning to for the last few weeks so i can start wiring it all up over the Easter break.
Also ordered 2 industrial relays to help the flippers feel more real.. expensive little things $230 to get them to my door damn customs.
http://www.eibmarkt.com/cgi-bin/eibmarkt.storefront/4baa03390013c0fe273e4debae380657/Product/View/NS0775599 (http://www.eibmarkt.com/cgi-bin/eibmarkt.storefront/4baa03390013c0fe273e4debae380657/Product/View/NS0775599)
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I finally received the leaf switch holders had to source them from Germany as i could not find them in Australia to save my life.
Chrome flipper button.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/chromeflipper.jpg)
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Nice! Are these the ones from www.arcadeshop.de? (http://www.arcadeshop.de?)
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Nice! Are these the ones from www.arcadeshop.de? (http://www.arcadeshop.de?)
Yeah that's the one. They are pretty prompt in getting your stuff out ordered on Monday and it turned up on Friday.
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Havent had much time in the last 3 weeks to work on it but i thought id add a pic of the glass although the sun was out so its not a great pic.
Thinking of de-casing the the 32" backglass LCD as the backbox weighs a tone.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0738_1.jpg)
Backglass resolution test.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0740.jpg)
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Spectacular! :applaud:
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Looks stunning :applaud:
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Also ordered 2 industrial relays to help the flippers feel more real.. expensive little things $230 to get them to my door damn customs.
What exactly is it that you're doing with industrial relays?
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emphatic, SpaceHedgehog: Thanks guys.
crashwg: They are magnetic impact relays so when the flippers are pressed it will add that thump on the sidewall of the cab like a real machine in a sence. That along side a sub woofer it should sound and feel pretty good.
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Beautiful, makes me feel good just staring at it. You know I snaffled that idea for thump relays or solenoids way back in someone else's pinny thread (i forget who now). Seems you paid a fair bit for those relays though, I was just wondering if there weren't cheaper solenoids that would do the job? I'm sure you researched it though by the looks of things.
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Beautiful, makes me feel good just staring at it. You know I snaffled that idea for thump relays or solenoids way back in someone else's pinny thread (i forget who now). Seems you paid a fair bit for those relays though, I was just wondering if there weren't cheaper solenoids that would do the job? I'm sure you researched it though by the looks of things.
Thanks Ond, Regarding the relays i didnt do enough research and paid for it but they are tried and tested.
Cheap option someone pointed out is http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/onl...um=cpc#details (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/onl...um=cpc#details) Guys are testing it out atm.
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I love this idea of using relays for FF with the pinball flipper buttons... Snip snip...
But, wouldn't just picking up a few used pinball solenoids off ebay for 4$ work just as well? Or are they too difficult to wire up or something? I could see mounting them so they smack the inside of the cab right next to the flipper button (might have to play with the arrangement to get the feel right).
Regardless, this is one fantastic build!
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I love this idea of using relays for FF with the pinball flipper buttons... Snip snip...
But, wouldn't just picking up a few used pinball solenoids off ebay for 4$ work just as well? Or are they too difficult to wire up or something? I could see mounting them so they smack the inside of the cab right next to the flipper button (might have to play with the arrangement to get the feel right).
Regardless, this is one fantastic build!
Thanks drventure, I really have no clue when it comes to the inner workings on a real pinball machine i think when its comes down to wiring it to the i-pac it should be easy enough with the relay and leaf switch in mind. It's all trial and error on my end so ill have to wait and see if it works out.
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Pic of the relays, i just need to order a 12v DC PSU to run them both.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0754.jpg)
Finally after all this time i have been able to drill the flipper button holes very nervous cuts as if i stuffed it up there would be no going back.
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee336/braxus2008/IMG_0755.jpg)
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I have a member on another forum working on artwork for me and he presented me with this
(http://i39.tinypic.com/vpdsle.jpg)
What do you think?
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Nice! The ball with the cape is a bit silly, but I get the joke :)
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I like it. Even the cloak and hair!
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It's growing on me more and more, add's character i think.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/25gcnky.jpg)
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I like it dude, the art is very clean & the humor isnt something else I see in artwork very often so I say cheers :cheers:
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Are you going to paint the front of the machine to match the side art, or maybe have more graphics done for it to match?
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There will be front art to suit the sides also.
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Nice!
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hey kurt, your work is so awesome! keep it going :applaud:
cheers
chris
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Damn that's coming out sweet! I'm definitely keeping an eye on this build!
I have a question that's probably been asked a bajillion times. Is it ok to keep the lcd on it's back like that? I ask because when I purchased mine the employee pretty much told me to treat it like it's a fabriche egg.
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lcd's are pretty rugged no problem laying them down or with the vibrations.
Plasmas are the ones you can't lay down or it will bleed out.
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Plasmas are the ones you can't lay down or it will bleed out.
I did not know that. Good info. Don't use Plasma for a pin cab playfield!
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Another great pinball build! Fantastic work Kurt! I've just recently decided to build a virtual pinball and I'm looking to gather as much information from as many threads as possible. Yours will definitely be a resource!
Regarding the side art..there are a few things that I'm not a fan of and thought you'd want the additional input...
1) Have you ever looked at something one way and then always see it that way? (A little like the old 'is it a rabbit or a duck?' picture). To me, the pinball with cape and hair looks like a hole with a cape hanging out.
2) The people are pointing up, but 'Superpin' is to their right
3) How's that logo gonna look on the other side? Imagine the big 'S' closer to the flipper buttons, leading to the narrower 'n' toward the thicker back part of the cabinet.
4) I don't see the need for the additional 'Superpin' on the top.
Again, kudos on all your hard work that is obviously paying off!
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i like the handrail that looks cool
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Plasmas are the ones you can't lay down or it will bleed out.
I did not know that. Good info. Don't use Plasma for a pin cab playfield!
wow didn't realize that.
plasma's are much heavier and use more power too (i guess also get hotter?)
shame really as plasma gives really great colour pop
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Were you going to mount mercury switches to handle tilt and nudge, or did I see that on a different thread.
I picked up 3 of em for my cab, just trying to figure out exactly how I should mount them now....
I love those chrome flipper buttons, btw!
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sorry to hijack
mount one facing left one facing right
and one facing towards you for front nudge :applaud:
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Plasmas are the ones you can't lay down or it will bleed out.
I did not know that. Good info. Don't use Plasma for a pin cab playfield!
Thats not the response I got from my thread
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=100047.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=100047.0)
I mostly wanted to post in here to say WOW! you did a phenominal job
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that project is looking great
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Thanks for the comments.
Projects taken a back seat as i haven't had the time to spend on it, shes still standing but covered in dust hopefully when the weather picks up ill finish her off.
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Projects taken a back seat as i haven't had the time to spend on it, shes still standing but covered in dust hopefully when the weather picks up ill finish her off.
I figure this is where I come in... It's been a month, so we're all anxious to see if you've had any additional progress!
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Sadly no progress has been made as when the weather turned bleak so did the motivation, Hope to finish this off this summer when life slows down alittle.
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maybe your motivation comes back when you know you have a big fanbase. ppl like me just lurking around not saying anything in your thread but looking with envious eyes, and slowly and surely they drew their plans against us... err no sorry that was War of the worlds ;)
some music for your motivation
War Of the Worlds - The Eve Of The War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFfZFvvuXWc#)
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Never saw pictures put with Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of the War of the Worlds before. Awesome 2cd set if you ask me.
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how wide were those metal edges around your de-cased lcd?