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Title: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Negativecreep0 on January 26, 2010, 09:11:09 am
One pushbutton I want to hook it up to a powered device so everytime i press the pushbutton the electrical device operates, but i also want to hook it up to my ipac so that a button is activated on the ipac when the button is pushed........... can this be done so as not to damage the ipac with the electrical current driving the device
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Ed_McCarron on January 26, 2010, 10:46:55 am
Depends.  The ipac needs to see a signal go to ground to turn its input on.  Perhaps use a small reed relay -- you could even use blocking diodes to prevent any backfeed -- and let that trigger your device?
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Negativecreep0 on January 26, 2010, 11:28:28 am
they share difference grounds the device and the ipac      
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Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Ed_McCarron on January 26, 2010, 12:47:21 pm
Outlet?  As in 120v?  No.  No.  No.  No.
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Malenko on January 26, 2010, 12:53:36 pm
 :laugh2:  :dunno  :dizzy:


do not try that. as much as I'd love to see you fry everything I fear you might get killed, and while that wouldnt impact me much you're family may infact miss you.
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Ed_McCarron on January 26, 2010, 01:00:13 pm
I'm sure someones gonna tell me I have the diodes pointing the wrong way, but here's an idea.

Note:  The voltage source and the ipac need to share a ground; if you take the 5v (12?) from the pc's PSU, it should be a winner.

Unless someone chimes in and says the IPAC's ground is isolated.  Randy usually calls me on these mistakes. :)
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Malenko on January 26, 2010, 01:38:26 pm
Ed, he wants the button to turn on the power then act like an action button on the control panel. Im assuming your wiring and a toggle switch? seems like it'd be easier to have a dedicated power button
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Ed_McCarron on January 26, 2010, 04:09:34 pm
Well... You could latch the relay, wire in a second pb as NC to unlatch it...

Or just use a separate switch.  This gets my vote.

I figured he wanted a light to come on when the fire button was hit or somesuch.
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: Necro on January 26, 2010, 04:17:56 pm
If this is for a computer, your going to have an issue with the button if you hold it for any period of time.

Hell, just pressing the power button again is going to screw everything up.

Do two switches.

Whatever you do, don't inline an arcade button on a 120V line.  It'd most likely melt.  And maybe fry you. :)
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on January 28, 2010, 06:42:14 pm
If this is for a computer, your going to have an issue with the button if you hold it for any period of time.

Hell, just pressing the power button again is going to screw everything up.

Do two switches.

Whatever you do, don't inline an arcade button on a 120V line.  It'd most likely melt.  And maybe fry you. :)


ya maybe you could find somewhere out of sight for your power button. Under the cp perhaps?
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: painterinfo on January 29, 2010, 12:43:51 am
I strongly recommend against mucking with mains voltage unless you are qualified.

If you want the same button to power on your computer as well as do something else I posted a safe method with a relay here
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=98894.msg1053504#msg1053504 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=98894.msg1053504#msg1053504)
A couple posts down is a full description

If you want to do as you say, activate some mains powered device and also send a button press to an IPAC here is a circuit that will do that.

For the info of people that are qualified to work with mains voltage
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=140976;image)
Do something wrong here and you will fry something.
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: gazz292 on January 30, 2010, 04:59:29 pm
i would personaly use 2 relays, i never like to mix voltages in relays, especialy when a computer type devise is involved with signal level switching, 
Title: Re: can I wire one pushbutton to do mutliple things?
Post by: painterinfo on January 30, 2010, 07:13:06 pm
i would personaly use 2 relays, i never like to mix voltages in relays, especialy when a computer type devise is involved with signal level switching, 

good point