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Title: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: BobA on October 23, 2009, 11:05:04 pm
Looks like Psystar is not ready to lie down yet.  Newest release lets everyone hack a mac on intel based PCs.  Your results may vary but it looks like the hackintosh is going to become more popular.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/psystar-rebel-efi-patch-installs-snow-leopard-on-any-pc/ (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/psystar-rebel-efi-patch-installs-snow-leopard-on-any-pc/)
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: testicle187 on October 24, 2009, 02:30:12 am
Looks like Psystar is not ready to lie down yet.  Newest release lets everyone hack a mac on intel based PCs.  Your results may vary but it looks like the hackintosh is going to become more popular.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/psystar-rebel-efi-patch-installs-snow-leopard-on-any-pc/ (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/psystar-rebel-efi-patch-installs-snow-leopard-on-any-pc/)

Why would anyone want to take an OS that isn't designed for a PC and make it work?  This defies the whole reason Macs have less problems... proprietary hardware.  If people would learn how to properly operate, secure, and maintain a computer they would not need to attempt to bastardize a Windows machine with Apple software. 
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: Blanka on October 24, 2009, 07:10:40 am
Why would anyone want to take an OS that isn't designed for a PC and make it work?
Because it has less problems than on real Apple hardware, and you can add 3 normal hard drives (very reasonable thing to ask with todays 12 Mpixel cameras with video options) without needing to buy a MacPro directly.
And Macs are too visible in the office. I don't like that. They look like fun, I want them to look serious.
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: Samstag on October 24, 2009, 03:03:57 pm
Why would anyone want to take an OS that isn't designed for a PC and make it work?

The only difference between a modern Mac and a "PC" is OS X.
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: BobA on October 24, 2009, 10:24:22 pm
I guess you could say that Macs are really expensive PCs designed by Apple.  Only thing that makes it an Apple is the logo.
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: Necroticart on October 24, 2009, 11:18:16 pm
really the only reason I use a mac is final cut pro if I could get a windows version apple would be out a customer I might have to check into putting OSX on my PC hopefully itmight speed up rending times
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: DrumAnBass on October 25, 2009, 12:56:27 am
My primary home machine is a "hackintosh." I much prefer OS-X over Windows, and rather than drop $2k on a MacPro I was able to build my own quad core 3.5ghz machine from eBay parts for around $600. Is it less reliable than a "real" Mac? Yes, it is but as long as you go by an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality it is a great machine.

I applaud Psystar for pushing the issue with Apple, even though they are trying to make a buck off of the OSX86 community. I yearn for a day when it is simply a matter of choosing the OS of your choice for the hardware of your choice. And through the hard work and dedication of some very talented hackers, that day is getting closer...
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: RayB on October 25, 2009, 11:58:09 am

This defies the whole reason Macs have less problems... proprietary hardware.
it's not really proprietary anymore, hasn't been for years.
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: Level42 on October 25, 2009, 04:10:36 pm
I've tried several of the hackintosh "solutions" that float around to finally get rid of that ancient XP on my company laptop but all tries have failed.

Luckily, the lousy PC laptop (Dell) of course broke down right after the 1 year warranty (again lid problems, damaged contacts causing part of the screen to go berzerk. Same happened to my HP laptop I had before the Dell. Those plastic pieces of junk just are not sturdy enough for the kind of work I do. I've begged for a proper laptop, in a metal casing but of course boss says "it's too expensive". When I explain that I can probably use that more expensive one about triple the time of a ---smurfy--- CHEAP PC laptop and THUS the Macbook is cheaper, of course she doesn't understand.)


Anyway, why run OS X on a (laptop) PC ? Because I hate Windows. I'd love a "turn-key" solution but it looks like this product is not much more than the solutions that have been "floating around" for quite some time now...

Maybe my new PC piece of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- laptop will give better results.....
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: crashwg on October 25, 2009, 04:15:22 pm
In case anyone decides to check out putting OS X (pronounced "oh es ten") on their non-Mac hardware from reading this thread, check out this website:
http://www.insanelymac.com (http://www.insanelymac.com)

There is so much stuff on their forums it can be daunting to try and sift through it at first but I've found nothing but helpful forum members so far. I am currently in the process of trying to get Snow Leopard (OS 10.6.x is known as Snow Leopard) up and running on my Dell XPS 410 and there's even a specific thread dedicated to just that.

I suggest that anyone who decides to give this a try start with searching for their motherboard on those forums based on that being the largest deciding factor of how your install will go.
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: DrumAnBass on October 25, 2009, 05:19:00 pm
I suggest that anyone who decides to give this a try start with searching for their motherboard on those forums based on that being the largest deciding factor of how your install will go.

Yep the motherboard was the starting place for me; I looked for hardware that was well regarded as compatible with OSX86 and decided on a Gigabyte P35-DS3R. Went for a Q6600 processor for it's overclocking abilit - another advantage of "alternative" Mac hardware...! My 2.4 ghz rated chip runs nicely at 3.5ghz. Using an 8800gt graphics card - again chosen for being known to play nice with the OSX86 installers. Case, CPU cooler, power supply, drives, firewire card, and $600 later I have a custom "Mac" for a fraction of the price of a real Mac.

Audio I/O seems to be one of the biggest issues for a lot of people, but usually a USB audio I/O dongle for $10 can fix that easily.

Psystar delivers a packaged plug & play alternative that doesn't interest me, but again I like the fact that they are pushing the issue and not backing down from the legal goliath of Apple.
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: BobA on November 05, 2009, 03:05:49 pm
Sounds like they bit off more than they could chew.   

No Service! (http://gizmodo.com/5397919/surprise-psystars-rebel-efi-software-and-customer-service-are-shady)

Got around this problem.  Traded a netbook for a Unibody Aluminum MacBook from someone who was fed up with the Mac and wanted XP.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Psystar waves the red flag in front of Apple
Post by: Ummon on November 05, 2009, 05:02:39 pm
I yearn for a day when it is simply a matter of choosing the OS of your choice for the hardware of your choice. And through the hard work and dedication of some very talented hackers, that day is getting closer...

One day, perhaps not too distant, it may only be a matter of 'are you geared up?'. Cos there won't be an economic model getting in the way of basic human interaction, fundamental curiosity, and disclosure, and technological architecture will reflect it.