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Title: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: wolfsoft on October 21, 2009, 08:24:19 am
Hi Folks,
today I found some time to put my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun from Thrustmaster (original for xbox).
It was a hard work, because I must cut of a lot of the pcb to fit into the gun head.

Here you can find detailed picture gallery if you want (http://wolfsoft.de/wordpress/?cat=6)


(http://wolfsoft.de/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/aimtrak_teaser640x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: syph007 on October 21, 2009, 08:43:39 am
Nice work!  I would have been nervous to shape the pcb, but it looks like you did a careful job on it.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: wolfsoft on October 21, 2009, 08:53:11 am
For shrinking I must remove two wires (rebuild them) and removed a Resistor and Capacity at the Camera PCB.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: drventure on October 21, 2009, 10:37:14 am
Nicely done.  :applaud:

That gun looks incredible.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: bkenobi on October 21, 2009, 11:30:10 am
Would it be possible to alternately remove the IR detector board and mount that in the gun tip instead of doing it this way?  As long as the components are there, this way should work.  I'm just thinking it could be installed in a tighter spot if the small board could be connected via leads.  Shoot, if that were possible...you could grind down the board even further and fit it in a .22 barrel!   :laugh2:
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: Beretta on October 21, 2009, 12:52:59 pm
ah a man after my own heart, good choice ;D

looks like you did a good job, although bkenobi  is right you could probably just removed the sensor and ran a wire to and from, secure it in the barrel with some hot glue & stash the PCB in the grip.

tidbit that gun is modeled after a 92/96 (9mm/.40) Brigadier (brigaider had heavier slide "wavy hump"), although the brigadier also came with finger groove wrap around grips.. that guns got regular 92/96 grips so not completely accurate.

Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: TheShanMan on October 21, 2009, 01:29:10 pm
Very nice! My preference (cost aside) would be for an arcade accurate gun, but among the non-standard choices I've seen people post so far, this one is the winner in my book.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: Neverending Project on October 21, 2009, 02:05:17 pm
Keep in mind that if you remove the camera from the board you would probably need to keep the same angle and tilt (the same as it is currently mounted on the PCB) because the calibration routines are designed around this.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: Ginsu Victim on October 21, 2009, 02:17:53 pm
Yeah, the tilt and angle are definitely important. I thought mine was messed up at first, but then I looked at it closely and realized it was like that on purpose.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: wolfsoft on October 21, 2009, 03:19:15 pm
no wonder, when I see you forum name *smile* ;-)

ah a man after my own heart, good choice ;D
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: wolfsoft on October 21, 2009, 03:20:22 pm
yes thats the reason for I am doing it this way

Keep in mind that if you remove the camera from the board you would probably need to keep the same angle and tilt (the same as it is currently mounted on the PCB) because the calibration routines are designed around this.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: wolfsoft on October 22, 2009, 03:02:31 am
I tried it at my crt-arcade and it works *great*
-accuracy is wonderful
-didn't must recalibrate if resolution changes for games
look here:
pointblank (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCa1fDsB4Ws#)
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: BamBam on October 22, 2009, 08:18:23 am
I tried it at my crt-arcade and it works *great*
-accuracy is wonderful
-didn't must recalibrate if resolution changes for games
look here:
pointblank (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCa1fDsB4Ws#)


I see the problem now.  You are holding the gun in the wrong hand.  :laugh2:
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: FrizzleFried on October 22, 2009, 09:15:47 am
I tried it at my crt-arcade and it works *great*
-accuracy is wonderful
-didn't must recalibrate if resolution changes for games

In the video I see you're using the crosshair.  Turn it off and give it a whirl.

But I am right with you... this looks awesome...
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: Ginsu Victim on October 22, 2009, 09:30:10 am
Yeah, I wanted to see the so-called "accuracy" without the crosshairs. Instead I see him fail the first level pretty quickly. :dunno

I don't see how people use a gun with the monitor at an angle like that. Mine is completely vertical.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: bkenobi on October 22, 2009, 12:10:11 pm
How can you tell the accuracy with the crosshairs on especially when you can't hit anything with them on?  It looks to me like you are relying on the crosshairs to aim since you wait till it's over the ghost to fire.

Turn that sucker off and play again and show us how accurate it is!   8)

Btw, thanks for the video.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: jasonbar on October 22, 2009, 08:31:54 pm
Nice work.

Interesting...that's the same gun as the EMS TopGun II, minus the laser sight (and minus the recoil?)...

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=93642.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=93642.0)

-Jason
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: wolfsoft on October 23, 2009, 02:53:31 am
it was a quick test, and I am "new" in the Lightgun business ;-)

How can you tell the accuracy with the crosshairs on especially when you can't hit anything with them on?  It looks to me like you are relying on the crosshairs to aim since you wait till it's over the ghost to fire.

Turn that sucker off and play again and show us how accurate it is!   8)

Btw, thanks for the video.
Title: Re: Installed my AimTrak into a Beretta Gun
Post by: wolfsoft on October 23, 2009, 02:54:03 am
yes indeed it looks identical...


Nice work.

Interesting...that's the same gun as the EMS TopGun II, minus the laser sight (and minus the recoil?)...

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=93642.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=93642.0)

-Jason