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Title: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 01:29:24 pm
Started this projected about a month ago, and didn't know the first thing about VP or FP.  Just saw Badboybills, and had to create one for myself to finish off the game room!!

Started off with Taking apart a perfectly good ( and new, wife was pissed ) 42 inch LCD TV.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA110034.jpg)

Then getting everything set up on the pool table with a 30 inch samsung monitor.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA060033.jpg)

The next step was getting the box for my pintable laid out and started to take shape.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA110014.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA110020.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA110033.jpg)

Then came the graphics, and putting everything together, The plunger, buttons, ect ect

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA200081.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA200095.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA210105.jpg)

Still have the DMD board to finish up, and the backglass.  Heres a little video featuring Dreampin in action =)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a51W9P3UqLE[/youtube]

Tell me what ya think, Building another one for a friend =)

H4CK3R

Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: RetroACTIVE on September 30, 2009, 01:36:26 pm
WICKED! 

I've been kicking around this very same project in my brain for about 6 months now... I love the fact you used a very large LCD... it looks AWESOME!
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Flake on September 30, 2009, 01:55:29 pm
Thats pretty sweet.  Project can get pretty pricey with a 42" and a 30" TV but I would agree it looks way cooler with larger monitors.

Congrats on a job well done.
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Zero_Hour on September 30, 2009, 02:00:43 pm
Looks great. Don't forget to update the thread when you add the DMD - very curious to see it all completed.
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: severdhed on September 30, 2009, 02:05:35 pm
simply awesome...congrats
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Epyx on September 30, 2009, 02:09:22 pm
wow...drooling over here. This is definitely a "to-do" in the future.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: RetroACTIVE on September 30, 2009, 02:10:20 pm
What model\make is the 42" LCD?
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Beretta on September 30, 2009, 02:19:10 pm
this is very cool indeed, although i think i'd still prefer the old school mechanical pins.

maintenance would be really low on this though so thats nice.
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 02:21:40 pm
42ZV650 42 Toshiba, but once you take it apart you'll see its made buy Samsung.. lol

Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 02:24:45 pm
Also this has full Nudge, tilt, plunger, and feedback in it.  When you hit a flipper you can hear and feel the solenoid kick in.  The video and pictures doesn't do it justice. 

H4CK3R
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: RayB on September 30, 2009, 02:46:32 pm
Awesome! Props to you. Dare we ask about cost?
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 02:52:32 pm
About 3,200 to 3,500.  give or take.

H4CK3R
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on September 30, 2009, 02:53:25 pm
Awesome! Props to you. Dare we ask about cost?


+1

This was the first question to pop into my mind as well.

About 3,200 to 3,500.  give or take.

H4CK3R

Youch!
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 03:01:34 pm
I always go a little over the edge when i build things, no reason in doing it twice, and if your gonna do it, do it right.  I wanted it as large a playfeild i could get without being bulky, and I wanted the smallest bezel possible. 

I also future proofed it with specs on the PC, ect. 

Once its completed Ill update it with another video and show ya where the money was wisely spent. =)

Besides it beats paying 6k plus shipping from a professional company, that uses a smaller playfeild, smaller backglass, and less games.  IMHO

H4CK3R
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: bkenobi on September 30, 2009, 03:20:12 pm
3200+ sounds expensive until you look at the cost of most recent SS pinballs.  Most seem to cost any where from $1500-$4000 in the Seattle area.  I don't know how much that varies by location, but $3200 for one that plays EVERYTHING is a reasonable price IMO especially compared to the professional options.

Now, I would still prefer the real deal, but I can't justify spending 10s of k's on those kinds of toys.  My wife would KILL me!

Oh, and I don't have any more room anyway.   8)
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Silas (son of Silas) on September 30, 2009, 04:38:46 pm
I want one of those. I REALLY want one of those, That TOTALLY dig this.  :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: versapak on September 30, 2009, 08:55:17 pm

A little too cotton candy on the color scheme for my taste, but overall...

Nice.


I do think it would look a little better if the screen was recessed a bit so as to add a bit of depth to the playfield. It seems kind of odd having it so close to the glass.

Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on September 30, 2009, 08:56:36 pm
I agree. I thought it should be recessed a few inches.
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 09:19:58 pm
Adding more "Depth" to it, I would have had to sink the LCD monitor into the cab, instead of on top of the cab, thus adding another 2 inches on "Bezel" to the playfeild...

I prefer no bezel to depth.

H4CK3R
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: versapak on September 30, 2009, 09:51:48 pm
Adding more "Depth" to it, I would have had to sink the LCD monitor into the cab, instead of on top of the cab, thus adding another 2 inches on "Bezel" to the playfeild...

I prefer no bezel to depth.

H4CK3R

(http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/20.gif)

Does that mean that the display is actually the top most piece? You don't have a protective top glass over the actual display itself?


I can certainly understand the desire to not want to have to make a bezel. Heck I still have my arcade machine that I built 4 years ago sitting here without a bezel and front glass, simply because I haven't felt like measuring and making the bezel (some kind of serious don't want to do it mental block).

I figure a bezel for that would be extremely easy to do though. Just frame it with plywood, or heck even masonite.

I wouldn't want what is probably the most expensive part of the whole thing sitting there so exposed, plus you then get that whole depth thing.


Still though. Very nice machine, and if I was standing there playing it in person, I am sure the wow factor would go a long way in making me overlook the little things that a msg board allows me time to nitpick. ;D
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 10:08:01 pm
has custom cut glass over it... this is how it sits with glass on top


no glass yet..
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA200080.jpg)

Glass no LCD...
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA110007.jpg)


Glass with LCD
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/PA180076.jpg)


H4CK3R
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: ivwshane on September 30, 2009, 10:16:28 pm
How do you achieve the feedback?

Any more construction pics?
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on September 30, 2009, 10:19:02 pm
Feed back is granted via a selinoid, hooked to each of the flippers, so when I push in it "Thumps"

Lots more pics..  Tho I didnt want to over load the tread with how too's unless people really want to see.

Thanks to everyone, if you can think of any improvements, Im all ears =)

H4CK3R
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: ivwshane on September 30, 2009, 10:22:55 pm
OVER LOAD IT BABY!!!
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: solid12345 on September 30, 2009, 10:26:28 pm
what a game room, nice to know someones doing good in this economy!
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on September 30, 2009, 11:16:59 pm
Lots more pics..  Tho I didnt want to over load the tread with how too's unless people really want to see.

Where do you think you are? DUMP 'EM ON US!
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: DJ_Izumi on September 30, 2009, 11:56:17 pm
In my humble opinion, I think the monitor might look more realistic if it were recessed about 3 inches into the table.  Basicly to the depth a real playfield table would be. Maybe with Plexi over it, if that wouldn't cause reflection issues.
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Gamester on October 01, 2009, 12:32:49 am
In my humble opinion, I think the monitor might look more realistic if it were recessed about 3 inches into the table.  Basicly to the depth a real playfield table would be. Maybe with Plexi over it, if that wouldn't cause reflection issues.

My thoughts exactly.  But I think you'd want to stay with glass for something that big.

But, we're nit picking... that thing rocks!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: telengard on October 01, 2009, 12:58:37 am
Very, very well done.  Seems like you covered all of the bases too, nice plunger, feedback, etc.

How does it play?  Have the physics improved in Future Pinball in the past year ago (haven't played in quite a long time).  I'm also curious to know how (if there is any) the "motion blur" is w/ the LCD you are using.

Great job and attention to detail...     :cheers:
 
~telengard
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: bkenobi on October 01, 2009, 01:38:24 am
The problem with recessing it, from the looks of the pictures anyway, is that the monitor is almost the same width as the outer cabinet dimensions.  So, if it were lowered, he would have to cover the monitor sides with something or make the box wider.  If he widens the box, it means a small bezel.  I like it the way it is, but if I were to build one myself, I would have lowered it to be similar to an actual pin's play field level.  Of course, that's relative since every game had different measurements...
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Santoro on October 01, 2009, 08:45:51 am
Lots more pics..  Tho I didnt want to over load the tread with how too's unless people really want to see.

You haven't been here long have you?   The more pics the better.  Nice work!
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Franco B on October 01, 2009, 09:14:39 am
Awesome job  :applaud:

Yes, PLENTY more pics please!

I like the solenoid feedback idea. Have you got a U-HID G for nudging etc?
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: RetroDave on October 01, 2009, 10:18:41 am
Where did you get your solenoid?
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on October 05, 2009, 12:37:21 am
used a real one out of a pinball table.  Still tring to get the 3rd display working.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/IMG00346-20091001-1602.jpg)

its a uphill battle... but working on it now..  Using nanotech's DIY kit... its a pain to config, but you get used to it. 

H4Ck3R
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Ond on October 05, 2009, 04:34:31 am
Solenoids for flipper feedback! Love it.  Idea snaffled, - thankyou.  I've yet to hear anyone really /review/ comment on the U-HID G unit effectiveness.
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Shortbus on October 05, 2009, 07:32:20 am
Holy smokes that is cool.......Nice work, I agree, anything worth doing is worth doing right......awesome job!
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: RayB on October 06, 2009, 12:54:27 pm
Hmmm. Got me wanting to make a miniature version.... (would that be lame? smaller than "real"?)
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: blackwatchplad on October 06, 2009, 01:19:04 pm
This is absolute badassery.
like telengard said, u covered all the bases. I give it two thumbs up
Hmmm. Got me wanting to make a miniature version.... (would that be lame? smaller than "real"?)

Really depends on how small, i think a bartop version would be pretty cool.
Long as everything is in proportion i think any size could look fine.
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: Yvan256 on October 06, 2009, 02:29:52 pm
Hmmm. Got me wanting to make a miniature version.... (would that be lame? smaller than "real"?)


I have to tell you, I have a 9.2" widescreen LCD right here ready for that.   ;D

I even opened it to make sure the LCD panel wasn't tied to pcboards so that the width would be the same as the LCD.

My problem is that I'm new to this pinball emulation thing and I already have three other projects to finish first. So if you do make a micro-pinball, let me know so I can watch your project!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: H4CK3R on February 02, 2010, 03:19:41 pm
OMG I just found out that my projected was listed in GameRoom Magazine.  LOL.  Tring to get hold of the owner so that maybe I can get a few copies... 

Its the December issue 2009, Volume 21, number 12.

H4CK3R

Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: markronz on February 02, 2010, 04:00:44 pm
Yeah, I saw that in there.  Congrats!  I always assumed they would have to ask for your permission before publishing something like that...
Title: Re: Dreampin. 95% Completed.
Post by: elfman12 on February 02, 2010, 07:24:51 pm
Awesome machine, H4CK3R. Lookin' sweet.
I have 3 quick questions.

1.  What size wood did you use for the box and backbox? 3/4" (The sides looked like 1/2" or less in one pic, so just curious)
2.  What kind of tricky stuff have you run into with configuring 3 monitors? I'm doing that on my pincab, so I just wanted to leech any good info from ya!
3.  Are your feedback solenoids hitting wood/wall for the feedback, or just vibrating? How are you powering them?

Thanks!