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Title: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: Ummon on July 04, 2009, 04:20:04 am

'86, mind. Betcha didn't know. (Well, maybe a few of you might.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PGNCeVuYBw

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: TOK on July 04, 2009, 06:01:01 am

Anthrax lifted it from college newspapers... Not sure if Wayne's World lifted it from Anthrax or also from the college papers.

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: Ginsu Victim on July 04, 2009, 11:31:09 am

Don't forget the Not Man
(http://www.catacombscds.com/images/anthrax/anthrax_not_man_flag.jpg)

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: ChadTower on July 04, 2009, 12:27:50 pm

I remember that from before them.  Kids on the playground used to use it.  That may be the origin in mainstream media but it goes back decades along with "my mother and your mother were hanging out clothes" and eeny meeny miney moe.

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: danny_galaga on July 05, 2009, 04:09:14 am

(http://images.brighthub.com/97/9/979BDE93547514648AF1315259B8EDB0AE9CD438_small.jpg)

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: bishmasterb on July 05, 2009, 12:12:28 pm

Pv~P

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: AtomSmasher on July 05, 2009, 02:56:47 pm

2b || !2b

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: ChadTower on July 05, 2009, 04:09:11 pm

 24q || 2!4q

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: Ummon on July 05, 2009, 05:07:49 pm

Quote from: TOK on July 04, 2009, 06:01:01 am

Anthrax lifted it from college newspapers...

Really?  How do you know that?

Also, an implication here is that it wasn't this huge linguistic phenomenon that one used all the time, but more of a special use/sarcasm thing. None of the stoner/hessian folk I hung around with used it all the time, but actually in the manner I described.

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: TOK on July 05, 2009, 08:22:41 pm

Quote from: Ummon on July 05, 2009, 05:07:49 pm

Quote from: TOK on July 04, 2009, 06:01:01 am

Anthrax lifted it from college newspapers...

Really?  How do you know that?

Cuz I'm de man.  ;)

It was used by the Princeton Tiger starting in (ready for this?) the late 1800's.

Background info:

Princeton Tiger or Tiger Magazine is a college humor magazine published by Princeton University undergraduates since 1882. A number of its writers and editors later went on to notable literary careers, including Booth Tarkington, F. Scott Fitzgerald, and John McPhee.

The magazine's style has not remained stagnant over the past 120 years. While the format in the mid-20th century still tended towards humorous, light pieces, the off-campus circulation was broader and the writing reflected it. In recent years, it has increasingly focused on campus affairs, occasionally provoking complaints that the magazine is inscrutable to non-students, even alumni.

The March 30, 1893 issue contained the earliest print appearance of the delayed postfixed Not!
1893 Princeton Tiger (March 30) 103: "An Historical Parallel-- Not."

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: Ummon on July 07, 2009, 09:32:15 pm

.....  .....dude, that does not count.

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: TOK on July 08, 2009, 05:38:32 am

Quote from: Ummon on July 07, 2009, 09:32:15 pm

.....  .....dude, that does not count.

OK, you're right. Not!

Title: Re: The origin of 'NOT'
Post by: Ummon on July 09, 2009, 07:36:54 pm

Tsss.