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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: saint on June 10, 2009, 11:02:47 pm
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I hurt :)
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My wife came in just tonight sporting a great big bruise from a bout of kung fu sparring.
Me, um, I prefer building things and games ;)
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That bruise is nothing, wait till they see what you did to the wife LOL.
Wait, isnt there some "wife beater police" lurking in this place somewhere?
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Looks like you had one too many *kidos. ;D
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A guy i used to work with used to come in with cracked ribs n stuff because of training. I think it was called Kempo Karate? he pointed out there is no point practicing to punch someone with your fist ending an inch from their face, but rather your fist should be ending an inch past the back of their skull ;D
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I was looking in the background thinking for a minute "damn he has a book about Soylent Green". :laugh2:
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I was looking in the background thinking for a minute "damn he has a book about Soylent Green". :laugh2:
I cook in my spare time. >:D
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I was looking in the background thinking for a minute "damn he has a book about Soylent Green". :laugh2:
I cook in my spare time. >:D
...and sometimes the wafers fight back?
(http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/742/742680/thesimpsons-hungryarethedamned_1162263247.jpg)
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I hurt :)
Damn, go out and get some sun, you pale mofo. >:D
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Damn, go out and get some sun, you pale mofo. >:D
Ack. Terrible advice. Don't make me bump my thread again. :angry:
OK....a little sun won't hurt ya and the vitamin D will make you sleep better. :cheers:
Just don't get burnt.
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I hurt :)
Damn, go out and get some sun, you pale mofo. >:D
Sun is bad. I knew someone who went out into the sun once. He burst into flame.
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Sun is bad. I knew someone who went out into the sun once. He burst into flame.
You shouldn't put me out in the sun, Johnny. A forum user put me out in the sun once.
ONCE.
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A guy i used to work with used to come in with cracked ribs n stuff because of training. I think it was called Kempo Karate? he pointed out there is no point practicing to punch someone with your fist ending an inch from their face, but rather your fist should be ending an inch past the back of their skull ;D
That's been my impression. Just in our hand-to-hand training in boot camp, when we practiced 'smashing grapes' with our boot heel, it was at least implicit...and maybe actually probly not.....that the ground was to crack with the force our our thrust.
I hurt :)
Damn, go out and get some sun, you pale mofo. >:D
Sun is bad. I knew someone who went out into the sun once. He burst into flame.
Hey, a real case of 'spontaneous combustion'!
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Akido, Hapkido, JuJitsu, and KyuKido...
We're in America, speak Engrish. ;D
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A guy i used to work with used to come in with cracked ribs n stuff because of training. I think it was called Kempo Karate? he pointed out there is no point practicing to punch someone with your fist ending an inch from their face, but rather your fist should be ending an inch past the back of their skull
Thats a very poor way to train, land filled with misconception.
Firstly, stopping right before a target gains a person better control. A person with better
control, has better accuracy, is less likely to overshoot a moved target, and is
less susceptible to faints. Being able to stop ultra quickly also creates faster
twitch muscle, which can lead to greater hitting power.
In the art I study, we hit Wall mounted bags filled with sand. The sand
cushions the fist a 'little', but unlike foam or heavy bags, it has very little 'give'.
The impact you get is much more powerful, and conditions your entire body from
that shockwave.
No need to hurt the training partner to attain power. And not many training partners
are going to be able to take a powerful blow to the head from a person who can
hit a near solid impact with a concrete wall.
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A guy i used to work with used to come in with cracked ribs n stuff because of training. I think it was called Kempo Karate? he pointed out there is no point practicing to punch someone with your fist ending an inch from their face, but rather your fist should be ending an inch past the back of their skull
Thats a very poor way to train, land filled with misconception.
Firstly, stopping right before a target gains a person better control. A person with better
control, has better accuracy, is less likely to overshoot a moved target, and is
less susceptible to faints. Being able to stop ultra quickly also creates faster
twitch muscle, which can lead to greater hitting power.
In the art I study, we hit Wall mounted bags filled with sand. The sand
cushions the fist a 'little', but unlike foam or heavy bags, it has very little 'give'.
The impact you get is much more powerful, and conditions your entire body from
that shockwave.
No need to hurt the training partner to attain power. And not many training partners
are going to be able to take a powerful blow to the head from a person who can
hit a near solid impact with a concrete wall.
What art(s) do you train in?
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Turning pretty colors now.
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I hurt :)
Oh, grab your tampon and move on. :D
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Mostly Wing Chun. But Im also pretty good at the TKD style kicking. I mix it up
with some wushu, tai chi, imiatations of drunken / animal styles at times.
Hard to find decent vids on Wing Chun. Lot of people that make them are not
the best.. or are doing things incorrectly.
Heres a few links of interest:
Woman Self Defense demo:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BQPYHz8Qxw[/youtube]
Wing Chun Power
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7wDsaMsypk[/youtube]
Wing Chun Hand Speed:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZZsRCbQYs[/youtube]
Wing Chun Hand Drill example:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXIalLWLzyo&feature=related[/youtube]
Decent Sparring:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlRPDhuX1DY[/youtube]
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A funny story about a Karate school...
One day I went to a Karate school's "Open Brawl"
Anyone from any style could fight their students and each other. 3 min rounds. Then
switch partners. Continue for like 30 min to an hour. You both were to agree on level
of speed and power (supposedly heh).
At one point, the Instructor came to spar me. I believe he was trying to impress me
to get me (and others) to join. Anyways... Im hitting him here and there.. and he cant
get any shots in on me. He starts to tell me to hit him harder.. so I did. I was hitting him in the chest most of this time, as it was easy to open him up. Then, he keeps
repeating to hit him harder. So I throw a decent shot to his head. After he recovers.. he says "Not the head!".
So, lets see here... you can take a punch to the chest well with my shock absorbing
gloves. And even if you could take a power shot without the gloves... you cant
take a medium shot to the head. Hmm... all that chest conditioning really didnt help much...
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A guy i used to work with used to come in with cracked ribs n stuff because of training. I think it was called Kempo Karate? he pointed out there is no point practicing to punch someone with your fist ending an inch from their face, but rather your fist should be ending an inch past the back of their skull
Thats a very poor way to train, land filled with misconception.
Firstly, stopping right before a target gains a person better control. A person with better
control, has better accuracy, is less likely to overshoot a moved target, and is
less susceptible to faints. Being able to stop ultra quickly also creates faster
twitch muscle, which can lead to greater hitting power.
In the art I study, we hit Wall mounted bags filled with sand. The sand
cushions the fist a 'little', but unlike foam or heavy bags, it has very little 'give'.
The impact you get is much more powerful, and conditions your entire body from
that shockwave.
No need to hurt the training partner to attain power. And not many training partners
are going to be able to take a powerful blow to the head from a person who can
hit a near solid impact with a concrete wall.
I don't get it? If it's better to stop right before you hit someone, why are you punching sandbags? :dunno
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Hard to find decent vids on Wing Chun. Lot of people that make them are not
the best.. or are doing things incorrectly.
you're just not trying hard enough ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrBoOd7JQtk
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I don't get it? If it's better to stop right before you hit someone, why are you punching sandbags?
I thought I explained it decent enough already.
If you driving a Race car... Why would need brakes?
If you try to punch someone, and they move out of the way... How well can you
stop yourself before its too late, and they counter your Miss with a strike of their own?
And if they Faint you, and you fall for it... moving your arms way too far off line,
which will leave vital areas open... you are going to get clocked, unless you were
able to stop fast enough before it was too late.
In a Race car... if you go really fast, and your brakes Stink... your gona slide out
of control on the corners.
Many people who do not practice stopping right before a target, lack stopping
ability. Their Brakes are Poor.
Samely, there is a fine motor skill involved in Muscle-Braking, and knowing your body/car.
Many people could never hug a wall as close as a race car driver does, because
they do not practice getting so close. A race car driver also has to really know the
timing and ability of his cars braking ability. Else each turn would be rough as heck,
and possibly fatal.
If you have ever seen these stunt car drivers... they can run a car at 50+ mph, turn the wheel a hair, wrench the E-Brake, slide the car at a 90degree angle, and wind up parking a car perfectly centered in between two others without hitting them.
Now... lets say Im showing a Girl a self defense move... I show at slow motion, and then
realtime. In realtime, if I lack control.. Im gona knock her out cold if I dont stop before
the targets.
And should I, if Im practicing eye strikes... allow them to hit my training partners eyes?!
DO I Need to hit my woman partner to Prove I have hitting power? Does her
face Really need a broken nose for the sake of a Training situation?! Its stupidity
I see all the time.
Its like these MMA schools which have these pumped up guys with Huge Egos...
and they lock one of their guys in an armbar. Instead of just appplying the
technique, and both agreeing that one was the loser...and re-start again...
they wrench the guy so bad that it messes the partners arm
up to the point where:
1) He cant train for several weeks due to healing times as suggested by doctor
2) He can not lift anything heavy at work anymore for that duration
3) He has sustained a Permanent injury, such as Loss of full range of motion.
4) His permanent Injury will cause him lifelong aches and pains
5) If he gets into a real situation when he is injured, he will be at a Huge disadvantage.
In Wing Chun, we are not against our training partners. We help them, not Hurt them
on purpose because of Ego. Its more of a Family environment, rather than an Ego
fueled battle of dimwits.
Having a reduced motion, or a broken nose does not increase your fighting
ability. It just means you got injured for a Sh*tty reason, and will pay for it,
possibly for a very long time.
Now, If you can punch a sand bag at full speed and power... you
are conditioning your fist internally and externally, and strengthening your bodys structure (muscular and skeletal).
When your fist hits a person... the weakest link in your structure will buckle under high stresses, and lead to loss of power transferring ability.
An easy example would be a weak wrist that buckles shortly after some power is
released. A more complicated example, would be the knees bending under that same
stress. The pathway from the ground to the fist needs to be as solid and strong as a
thick metal pole. That is what will provide the best energy conduction and thus release
power.
You will never get that kind of internal solidity from hitting a bag which easily
swings away, and also, much of the forces being absorbed in the soft padding
material, rather than reverberating back down into your own structure, like hitting
a real person does.
A person isnt a Rag doll. If the opposition is a good fighter... when you hit them, they will
be tensed up.. and their body mass will be all linked together. It will be like hitting a
Heavy wall of concrete that has a thin layer of skin over it. It feels and reacts nothing
like a heavy bag.
We can see that boxers, and some other fighters have to tape their wrists to be
more solid. This is because the weakest link is their wrists... and instead of actually
strengthening it... they choose to just tape it. Sure, they probably have little choice
due to the fact that those gloves are Horrible for transfering power... but still,
you are not going to be able to tape your wrists up on a spontaneous street brawl.
And also, because the typical sport fighters fists are used to wearing padded gloves,
and hitting padded and or softer targets... when they hit a real person, they are going
to be in serious pains. Skin will tear easily from their fists, as well as deep bone
pains from the collisions, which will keep them from being able to deliver anywhere near max power levels... And may even break their fists and or wrists.
The old school karate guys hit trees. But, a trees surface is a little to rough. Its nothing
like a person. The bumpy uneven surface can cause damages to your fists internal
structure. And since there is no initial fist cushioning skin surface.. things like your
knuckles will be ground down to bits from that kind of repeated impact over years time.
In this respect, a sand bag is much more realistic to a human body. Very little surface
dispersion (just enough to conform to the fist surface, much like skin does)
and almost no absorbing compression. (a very immediate & powerful impact)
Finally, Wang Chun is good... but they only had like 2 hits, where as Wing Chun is full of hits. ;) ;D
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Personally, I prefer Mu Shu and Wang Chung.
Edit: Snap! Someone beat me to the Wang Chung!
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Hard to find decent vids on Wing Chun. Lot of people that make them are not
the best.. or are doing things incorrectly.
you're just not trying hard enough ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrBoOd7JQtk
First thing I thought at Wing Chun, too.
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Finally, Wang Chun is good... but they only had like 2 hits, where as Wing Chun is full of hits. ;) ;D
Funny. Yeah, I guess in 'crushing grapes', you already have them in a submission and are swiftly coming down. And, well, it's a killing move. I definitely see the sense in using sand bags. (Incidentally, using them for physical conditioning is well-documented and much advised.) Of course, I inherently question the interest in martial arts, for, meditation, physical conditioning, and spiritual development are not dependent on them.
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Of course, I inherently question the interest in martial arts, for, meditation, physical conditioning, and spiritual development are not dependent on them.
You can be incredibly fit (and conditioned)... but, if someone attacks you and you have poor technical ability... your fitness will not save you. Nor will your meditation.
The best fighter, does not need to fight. They can talk the fight down. However,
there are those times when someone will persist. It is that time, in which the best
diplomacy is a show of arms (and legs).
Also, If you have ever rode a city bus in a rough area... without any martial arts training... you are going to look around you and feel slightly uneasy, if not a little frightened, by some of the hooligans and their stares & antics.
Those feeling are extremely reduced if not completely eliminated, once your skills have
attained a high level.
Martial Arts had started out as a means of protection, as well as a tool in
war (Offense). The arts were never about 'Fighting' for the sake of Fighting.
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I understand that. Still, I prefer more clandestine methods of....interaction. Besides, the right bearing goes a long way in avoiding and fending off would-be altercations.
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Today I ripped my big toenail halfway off. Good times....
(I hurt)
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I hurt *everywhere* ... Yesterday was a black belt test. Not my black belt test, but I was one of the uke's (throwing dummy) yesterday. Did the 2 hour regular class, then lunch, then 2.5 hours of the black belt test. I can't count the number of times I was thrown in the air and slammed to the mat.
Good times....
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It must be saint's avatar, but I never envisioned saint as skinny. That damn arm screams of a skinny guy. Oh, and I like the color purple. Its a pretty color; esp if the color is on someone else's skin.
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It must be saint's avatar, but I never envisioned saint as skinny. That damn arm screams of a skinny guy. Oh, and I like the color purple. Its a pretty color; esp if the color is on someone else's skin.
Saint is a skinny, pasty pale geek. ;D
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It must be saint's avatar, but I never envisioned saint as skinny.
Maybe its a "Saint Nick" image? heh
I always find it funny how people tend to think less of the skinny / thin guy.
Especially woman... who appear to think the larger guy would be much more
of a brute... or be a better 'protector'.
When in fact, some the most deadly people on this earth, who practice hand
to hand combat, are thin, not overly bulky, and can take on opposition well
over double their mass with ease.
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It must be saint's avatar, but I never envisioned saint as skinny.
Maybe its a "Saint Nick" image? heh
I always find it funny how people tend to think less of the skinny / thin guy.
Especially woman... who appear to think the larger guy would be much more
of a brute... or be a better 'protector'.
When in fact, some the most deadly people on this earth, who practice hand
to hand combat, are thin, not overly bulky, and can take on opposition well
over double their mass with ease.
Human nature is still pretty primitive in most.