Build Your Own Arcade Controls Forum
Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: Wolfwood on May 27, 2009, 05:16:20 pm
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Hey Everyone.
I will keep this short and sweet.
Can I use an I-pac on consoles, or the U360 on consoles, such as the xbox 360?
Thanks.
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We sell adaptors for using an I-PAC on consoles. The Xbox 360 is excluded though as Microsoft do not allow third-party controllers to be connected unless they incorporate a special Microsoft chip. This is the reason why the Xbox 360 is so useless when it comes to variety of controllers.
www.ultimarc.com/console.html (http://www.ultimarc.com/console.html)
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Well I know that much, I just wanted to know if I could mod it in any way to get it to work.
I thought about using a pcb that they sell all over the place, I could use the U360's 4 wires in output mode and plug everything up and have a little usb hub inside of your controller, it would be more hassle, but you would not need a 2 controllers.
anyone else? and thanks again Ultimarc...guy
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So, is it possible to rig up some of the analog pots from an Xbox 360 controller to a U360?
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So, is it possible to rig up some of the analog pots from an Xbox 360 controller to a U360?
I would say no, because in my understanding there's no way to interface them, not only hardware-wise, but software too.
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None of Ultimarc's sticks use potentiometers, so you couldn't wire one up to a Xbox 360 controller
Fred,
Unfortunately Microsoft have banned third-party controllers on the 360 and encrypted the interface to prevent it, so the only way is to hack a real controller.
We dont have any pot type of analog joystick suitable for a hack unfortunately.
Andy
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...We dont have any pot type of analog joystick suitable for a hack unfortunately.
None of Ultimarc's sticks use potentiometers, so you couldn't wire one up to a Xbox 360 controller
Err, in most, but not all, cases pots can (and have been) replaced with Halls Effect sensors. (examples: CH flightsticks (http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=125863), industrial (http://www.epn-online.com/page/new58344/contactless-potentiometer-replacement.html)) From looking at pictures of repairing an xbox360 analog stick, I'd guess a Hall Effect sensor probably would work if you could wire the raw three pin per axis output.
OTOH, I think Andy is saying that since the u360 outputs USB (and the Hall Effect sensors are on the same board that converts to USB), you can't hack it to replace an analog stick, and all the other sticks ultimarc has are 8-way (aka digital).
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You can change the analog signals on the xbox360 gamepad pcb to digital via 10k resistors. I had to do this to make my wireless coffee table.
There must be SOME joysticks out there that use 10k pots? Anyone know of any?
If there is, an analog arcade stick could easily be made using the pcbs out of xbox360 gamepads.
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If you know the output of the hall effect circuit (it is either 0V-5V, or ±2.5V, can't remember) on the U360, you should be able to condition the signal (to a variable current, for example) for the analog portion of the console controller using only a few components, provided you know what the console controller expects.