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Main => Buy/Sell/Trade - non-retail => Topic started by: garykagan on April 16, 2009, 11:22:17 pm
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Hello all, new to the forums, great info here. I bought a stand up Star Wars machine back in 1989 for $250 and somewhere along the line the monitor died, sound kept on going. It was awesome for quite a while though. I believe it was the flyback transformer (so I'm told). Anyway, as I love the side art and wanted this for more than just Star Wars, I gutted it to prep it for an emulator gaming system. What I wanted to know is if anyone has figured out or documented how to use the yolk from a star wars machine and actually use it as a working yolk in the MAME rom of star wars.
So far I have fitted in a 21 inch CRT nicely. I plan to use the existing speakers in the cab, I am looking into a mini amplifier to control the volume externally from the pc to the speakers. Ordered a smart strip to control all the power from the pc on/off. Trying to determine if I should go with Mala or Maximum Arcade, UncleT has an amazing document I've been reading on MALA setup (nice work).
Any other joystick makers out there beside x-arcade and Northcoast? I'm temped to build my own, but I'm not sure what I'd be getting into there yet.
I'll be listing all the parts in the Buy/Sell/Trade section eventually. Hopefully they will be useful to some members.
I'll have some pics shortly as well.
-gk ;D
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Odds are decent it isn't the flyback and you can get that game working again without tons of trouble. If the boardset still works but the monitor doesn't, that's not so hard to get back fully working... certainly easier than redoing the whole thing as a MAME cabinet.
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Probably true. Looks like a large circular magnet with a big crack in it - also the solder joints were not holding anymore. I'll keep the cabinet intact for all the art and marquee. Tell ya the truth, I played that game to death when it was working. It really was time to make some changes with it.
-gk
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could have sold it for twice what you paid and then fully funded your "mame" with the cash.
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O my god, what a shame. You will NEVER have the true vector glory with a MAMEd machine !!!!
I _strongly_ advice you to re-install all the gutted parts. Is it an Amplifone monitor ?
It's really easy to repair. The HVT's are available and knowledge in the Amplifone FAQ and help is plenty around here.
MAMEing a SW is only OK if you found an EMPTY cab, like Darthnuno. Since you have all parts, it's easy to restore it to it's full original working glory.
Is that circular magnet with a crack in it red ? If so, you're halfway of repairing it.
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I know I've let you guys down here, but the cab will live on. For the amount of years I held on to this there is no way I would let it go for $500. Repairing antique electronics is just not one of my strong points. I really love the side art and could not duplicate that if I built a cab from scratch. There's also the space issue - no room for two machines. It would be cool to build a bartop version of the machine with the parts though.
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Where are you located? If you insist on parting this thing out maybe you can help out someone who wants to restore theirs. I have a project Star Wars here that could definitely use some of the electronics, and the monitor if you're within shipping range, since I work mostly on vectors. Obviously reasonable price paid.
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I'm in NJ. I just need some time to get some pictures takes and post here or in the Buy/Sell/Trade area. thx, gk
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*** Please move this from the restoration section.*** :angry:
A classic cab, especially a Star Wars, in the condition you describe should never be mamed.
On the positive side, you will be assured of having your creation immortalized in the Hellcade!
Here is some inspiration for what you can create:
(http://www.brentradio.com/images/HellcadeAll/?img=./StarWars2Aliens.jpg&w=420&h=420)
(http://www.geocities.com/merlin_topgun3000/11faroffshotpic.jpg)
(http://www.brentradio.com/images/HellcadeAll/?img=./StarWars2NintendoWii.jpg&w=420&h=420)
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Thanks for the anger and the inspiration.
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I would 100% prefer that he fix this cab too. :-\
If he's absolutely set on MAMEing the thing, though, I can ensure that at least the organs go right to a needy recipient and probably help him out with his project too. I'm not so far from him.
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Chad, thanks for the positiveness. Yes - I will be offering up the parts to all who needs them so everyone wins. The parts are clean and look great. Pictures will be coming.
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He's only positive because he wants your parts.
If repairing electronics is not your thing, there are plenty of people who can. Arcadecup (http://www.arcadecup.com/) can fix your monitor f.i. but I'm sure there are others.
I'm sorry but I totally agree with Spyridon, this thread has to be moved out of here.
It's simply not a restoration. You obviously either have never seen a working color vector or don't understand what you're going to miss.
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No need to be hostile. Can't we get along? If it should be moved, so be it. Also, if someone wants my parts or doesn't, it is possible to be nice either way.
I'm not going to miss it. I am more of home theater guy.
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He's only positive because he wants your parts.
:P
If he were closer I'd be willing to drive over and help him fix the thing. He's a good 5-7 hours from me one way, though. I don't want to see this thing parted anymore than anyone else here does. This guy is going to do it, though, seeing as how he has already installed the raster monitor. If someone else buys the parts who knows where they'll end up? I'm only trying to work with the reality of the situation here. He already said he's not willing to sell the whole nonworking machine for $500 - so who knows what he will think the parts are worth?
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Where am I hostile ?
I'm just saying it's in the wrong section.
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You Star Wars bully. ;D
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now that's funny
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I'd like your circuit board set.
I have a Star Wars with problems (no picture, some sound, but not "gameplay" sounds).
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I'm looking for a HV board.
Too show I'm not hostile:
Yoke hack info: http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=74.msg427#msg427
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I wouldn't part out the individual components... let's see if we can keep the monitor and game boardset intact here.
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LOL @ Peale.
Moved it to BST rather than Misc Arcade or Projects. :laugh2:
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Man, be glad this isn't the KLOV forum, you would have been butchered there....
Chad, what do you mean "intact". An Amplifone is nothing but 2 boards and a CRT. There's nothing to keep intact. I need a HV board to restore a cockpit to Amplifone glory (now has a WG6100)....at least that would be a noble thing to come out of this.
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Man, be glad this isn't the KLOV forum, you would have been butchered there....
Chad, what do you mean "intact". An Amplifone is nothing but 2 boards and a CRT. There's nothing to keep intact. I need a HV board to restore a cockpit to Amplifone glory (now has a WG6100)....at least that would be a noble thing to come out of this.
I mean intact as in if he sells that HV board alone now he has an incomplete nonworking monitor. Not exactly the best thing for a newbie to try and sell.
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I'm looking for a HV board.
Too show I'm not hostile:
Yoke hack info: http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=74.msg427#msg427
you have redeemed yourself. Thanks for this thread. Very interesting info, just what I was looking for.
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Hey Gary,
I'm in NJ as well. Sent you a PM as I'm restoring a SW cab and could use some parts if you decide to part with them.
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We're like vultures ! :D
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(http://vulturecrew.com/images/vulture_crew_3.jpg)
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Well, to be certain, he doesn't grasp the gravity of this aspect of the hobby. Ah well.
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I grasp it, it just is not my hobby. I have too many already..... Gonna help out a lot of people with the parts I have as soon as I figure out what they are worth and get them posted here.
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trouble with pricing starwars parts...
You have the monitor... working well is worth a bit... mainly because they are hard to find...
Controller... But their prices went from 250 -> 150 in good condition because everyone is hoping for the RAM Controls to start selling theirs soon.
The maybe the board... I'm guessing you could get a bit for it because I hardly ever see them for sale.
Other then that, I odn't think you can get much... I see parts on ebay cheap for everything else since so many cabs get ripped apart.
That being said... if its working, you can easily get 1k for the cabinet. And thats for a sudo crappy one.
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You can not get anything like $1000 for an empty Star Wars cabinet. :dizzy:
Not even a fully working one in pretty good shape is fetching $1000 right now. They seem to be going in the $750 range from the ones I've seen.
Right now, honestly, we're looking at a nonworking Amp or WG color vector and a possibly working but not known for sure boardset. The problem with the game could easily be the video and not the monitor, and since he can't tell us for sure, any buyer has to assume the boardset could have a bad video signal going out.
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Hopefully the pictures will tell what is wrong. The boards look spotless. The game was playing blind and the part that connects to the back of the monitor with a suction cup had damage. I'll get my act together today and post the pics....
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Hello all. Pictures are ready for previewing. I am keeping the cab (with speakers), glass, plastic forms and the yoke. Everything else will be available for sale as soon as I can be ready and figure out how I will go about the sale. Feel free to ask any questions as this will help me as well. The boards still need to be removed from the cage as they will be sold individually as well. Hopefully we can bring to life a few machines with these parts.
About the machine: I played this machine for many enjoyable hours and it was awesome. At one point the screen stopped working as it was playing blind. Didn't know what the exact issue was, but I do remember doing some research at the time and the flyback transformer within the monitor housing was mentioned as the issue. Hopefully the pictures will help. The boards, power and wiring should be all in working order. This machine has always been kept indoors.
Thanks for looking, gk (Princeton, NJ) :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37562351@N03/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37562351@N03/)
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Man that is a clean cabinet.
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Here's what the pictures do tell us for sure:
1) Flyback needs replacing most likely.
2) Tube has spot burn.
3) That's a WG.
I suggest getting better shots of the game boards. Take them out of the cage... we still don't know if the game boards are fully working. The pics probably won't solve that but it will show anyone something obviously toasted. That would probably be either a connector or in the AVG section since it plays blind. Look for some test points marked X, Y, and Z and focus on that area.
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I'll get some pictures of the boards out to everyone, thx, gk
Here's what the pictures do tell us for sure:
1) Flyback needs replacing most likely.
2) Tube has spot burn.
3) That's a WG.
I suggest getting better shots of the game boards. Take them out of the cage... we still don't know if the game boards are fully working. The pics probably won't solve that but it will show anyone something obviously toasted. That would probably be either a connector or in the AVG section since it plays blind. Look for some test points marked X, Y, and Z and focus on that area.
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I will be taking the boards out of the cage for some close up shots for everyone to see. As I learn more about these parts I will post the info. I just learned about a green board that is covering the opening of the cage with the two rectangular connectors from the wire harness. My machine was working with the wire harness connectors connecting directly to the two boards in the cage. thanks, gk
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I will be taking the boards out of the cage for some close up shots for everyone to see. As I learn more about these parts I will post the info. I just learned about a green board that is covering the opening of the cage with the two rectangular connectors from the wire harness. My machine was working with the wire harness connectors connecting directly to the two boards in the cage. thanks, gk
That's probably the RF board... totally optional. I think it had to do with radio interferance compliance but not necessarily game functionality. Taking it out removes a point of failure but if the gov't ever finds out you may or may not end up in Turkish prison or in a gladiator movie.
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That thing rather calls to be sold in one piece.
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I ment if he got it working and sold it together instead of piecing it out. (I haven't seen any go for less then 1000 bucks in ages... Especially with decent artwork... But I haven't been to an arcade auction since the downturn)
You can not get anything like $1000 for an empty Star Wars cabinet. :dizzy:
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I will be taking the boards out of the cage for some close up shots for everyone to see. As I learn more about these parts I will post the info. I just learned about a green board that is covering the opening of the cage with the two rectangular connectors from the wire harness. My machine was working with the wire harness connectors connecting directly to the two boards in the cage. thanks, gk
That's probably the RF board... totally optional. I think it had to do with radio interferance compliance but not necessarily game functionality. Taking it out removes a point of failure but if the gov't ever finds out you may or may not end up in Turkish prison or in a gladiator movie.
Yeah WG so I'm not vulture-ing anymore.
O, and I'd prefer a Turkish prison above Guantánamo Bay any day.........................
O and my Irish cockpit didn't come with an RF board..... :D
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O, and I'd prefer a Turkish prison above Guantánamo Bay any day.........................
O, I bet those Cubans love pasty white Dutch Boys... >:D
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Pictures of the boards have been posted.
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Monitor (+ metal housing with suction cup) $120 min offer (pickup only)
Wire Harness with the fan $35 min offer
Wire Harness with the two connectors for the boards $40 min offer
Power Brick with black cover $30 min offer
Metal Cage $20 min offer
Black Bezel $10 min offer
PCB boards (all 3 boards inside the cage + interconnect)$175 min offer
Audio Power Board on outside of metal cage $35 min offer
Send me your offers - I assume your first offer is your best offer. If you want to know if your offer was beat let me know, I will not be pm'ing beat offers back to you unless you tell me you want to know.
I'm not looking to do an auction here, if I wanted that this stuff would be on fleebay. Just send me your best offer and I'll most likely take it.
Shipping is additional. I will package very carefully. I offer USPS shipping, priority mail or parcel post, you can choose. Delivery confirmation will be required. Insurance is optional if you want it. I will not overcharge on ANY shipping, exact is what you will have to pay + $1.50 for all boxes and bubble wrap.
also thanks to all who actually were helpful to me,
gk
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I'm not looking to do an auction here, if I wanted that this stuff would be on fleebay. Just send me your best offer and I'll most likely take it.
Just to be clear here... you are not looking to do an auction, but we are supposed to send you our best offer (cough-bid-cough) privately, as long as it is more than your min offer (cough-reserve-cough). Then you will take the best highest offer without letting the rest of the bidders "offerers" know they were out-offered?
At least "fleebay" (as you put it) notifies bidders when they are out-bid. cough-auction-cough.
Man, I should get this cough checked out.
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Quit "hacking" all over this place. Take your shiz to fleeBay. Thanks for destroying a nice piece of equipment.
-JD-
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Metal Cage sold
Black Bezel sold
thanks,
gk
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... and the dude wonders why he got the reception he did at KLOV. :dizzy:
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I don't have strong feelings on silent auctions. What are the objections to them?
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... and the dude wonders why he got the reception he did at KLOV. :dizzy:
oh god, you are here too? Thought this was the nice people forum...
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... and the dude wonders why he got the reception he did at KLOV. :dizzy:
oh god, you are here too? Thought this was the nice people forum...
I requested a mod to chime in on auction styled B/S/T listings. The general forum population frowns on it, and it became a very heated subject once at KLOV. I felt it would be proper for the mods to nip the brewing storm in the bud with an official ruling before it got out of hand.
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I don't have strong feelings on silent auctions. What are the objections to them?
It's not an auction. If you actually are interested, make me an offer and I'll most likely take it. I'll be ending this tonight. You want to know what people are offering? the minimum price is what I have been offered or told I should fetch for the part. I'm only going back to people who ask me to and I am not planing to have a bidding war.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.... you may not have INTENDED to not have a bidding war... but when it comes down to it, that is most likely going to be the result. And you only have to answer as you see fit on whether or not you have bidders. Be gone.....
-JD-
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Man you are retarded! The artwork can be had repro'd for a descent price. As someone has stated already, you could sell that cabinet and make a mame cabinet.
That is what I"m doing, albeit with a MK2 cab..... I bought a converted MK2 cab that had a Soul Calibur 3 in it..... I'm selling the Jamma Equipment for damn near what I paid for the cab and it has a working 25" monitor!
Of course, talking to you is like pissing in the wind... all I am doing is getting soiled....
-JD-
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Man you are retarded! The artwork can be had repro'd for a descent price. As someone has stated already, you could sell that cabinet and make a mame cabinet.
That is what I"m doing, albeit with a MK2 cab..... I bought a converted MK2 cab that had a Soul Calibur 3 in it..... I'm selling the Jamma Equipment for damn near what I paid for the cab and it has a working 25" monitor!
Of course, talking to you is like pissing in the wind... all I am doing is getting soiled....
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That's enough with the harassment. Good for you on the MK2 cab, hope it turns out nice. If I wanted to sell it I would have.
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... and the dude wonders why he got the reception he did at KLOV. :dizzy:
oh god, you are here too? Thought this was the nice people forum...
LOL That was funny.
The boards are already out of my price range, so, no offers from me.
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It's not an auction.
I don't think you know what an auction even is.
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PCB boards are sold.
Monitor (+ metal housing with suction cup) $120 min offer (pickup only)
Wire Harness with the fan $35 min offer
Wire Harness with the two connectors for the boards $40 min offer
Power Brick with black cover $30 min offer
Audio Power Board on outside of metal cage $35 min offer
Send me your offers
Shipping is additional. I will package very carefully. I offer USPS shipping, priority mail or parcel post, you can choose. Delivery confirmation will be required. Insurance is optional if you want it. I will not overcharge on ANY shipping, exact is what you will have to pay + $1.50 for all boxes and bubble wrap.
also thanks to all who actually were helpful to me,
gk
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There was me getting upset over a pole position :badmood:
Here is a mamed starwars on UK Ebay. £1,000 BIN
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORIGINAL-ATARI-STAR-WARS-MACHINE_W0QQitemZ110379597034QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3945QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Damn, unless he made a mistake he has 2 listed? It's the same photos etc so maybe it's a mistake.
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awesome. I will buy that one and put a stop to my project...
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awesome. I will buy that one and put a stop to my project...
ok - I apoligize. I just couldn't help that one. Like I said, if you can't laugh about it what's the point.
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awesome. I will buy that one and put a stop to my project...
ok - I apoligize. I just couldn't help that one. Like I said, if you can't laugh about it what's the point.
I was showing that one more to show you that if you had kept yours original it would be worth at least that.
That one is overpriced IMHO and they never even bothered fitting repo artwork on the yoke.
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What kind of monitor is in that thing? Wonder if they used the standard sidewinder yoke hack as well. Hard to see in those pics.
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Ahigh, welcome back (again)!!!
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>:D
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Nasty bits removed from this thread.
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thanks Saint
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:laugh2: Is that a record for fewest amount of posts for a non "Banned" custom title? The only guys I ever see with those are the ones with a few thousand posts.
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aw, Gary, no need to edit your posts. We fight on here all the time, and then have virtual beers together. :cheers:
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aw, Gary, no need to edit your posts. We fight on here all the time, and then have virtual beers together. :cheers:
Hell yeah. There are some dudes here that going back a ways I used to fight with biiiiiiiiiiiiiigtime. I'd chill over lunch with any of them, though. This place is like that. We fight amongst ourselves like family.
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aw, Gary, no need to edit your posts. We fight on here all the time, and then have virtual beers together. :cheers:
Hell yeah. There are some dudes here that going back a ways I used to fight with biiiiiiiiiiiiiigtime. I'd chill over lunch with any of them, though. This place is like that. We fight amongst ourselves like family.
Very true! If you did choose to hang out here, learn some stuff, shoot the breeze etc - then all would eventually be water under the bridge. We all start off in this hobby with some sort of abomination...or at least plans for one.
Your choice though. I don't really care either way.
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good to know, I kinda thought you guys came on a bit strong... I won't hold a grudge. Not to worry, I won't post any finished pics of my project either.... ;D Looks like all the parts sold to 4 different buyers, so hopefully that helps out the community here. thanks, gk
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Real question (not too dumb...) - I lost the keys to the coin doors on my SW machine. Are the lock and key set easily replaceable? OR do you guys just get keys made - what are my options? Real answers please ???
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Drill or pick the locks. I always drill them because it's fun. New locks are $3-$4 each.
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good enough, thanks for the tip
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Cover any circuit boards in the game if possible before drilling the lock. That can send shards of metal all over the place and it would really suck to kill a board by shorting some stuff out drilling the lock.
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No need to drill the top lock, you should be able to unscrew it from the back. The bottom one though... yeah, drill it out.
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yep - thx, saw that one was reachable.
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So are you going to change out the marquee?
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hell no, love the marquee. When I'm done the machine will look perfect from the outside. Hopefully I can explain without getting too flammed again here - :banghead: if anyone is actually interested - I will build a heavy movable table that will mount and store a flight stick, Momo driving wheel, 4 player joystick, etc. The finished game will default to Star Wars for display and usage (USB yoke starting soon). The flat front of that machine makes it easy to roll up a table top for other types of games and the yoke does not get in the way. I don't plan on permanently connecting anything to the front (with the exception of the USB hub and mini amp for the speakers). gk