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Title: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 05, 2009, 12:32:16 am
I am spending the rest of the weekend finishing this up. Once the dust collection system is in place, I should be able to cut some really nice birdhouses for the wife.  ;D
Mountain's 4x4 Hybrid CNC cutting a bracket (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIU7ay_xX1o#)
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: SavannahLion on April 05, 2009, 03:39:00 am
I'm holding your thread hostage unless you send me that attachment immediately!
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: Encryptor on April 05, 2009, 07:46:05 am
That will help a great deal in making the mountain jukebox kits. How long do you think it would take to cut out a complete kit using that machine?


Encryptor
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 05, 2009, 08:33:06 am
That will help a great deal in making the mountain jukebox kits. How long do you think it would take to cut out a complete kit using that machine?


Encryptor

There are way too many factors to know for sure. I am more interested in the output quality this machine is capable of. Any speed advantage is going to be icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: Encryptor on April 05, 2009, 11:33:40 am
I was looking at joescnc.com page. Did you buy one of his kits?


Encryptor
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 05, 2009, 12:01:33 pm
I was looking at joescnc.com page. Did you buy one of his kits?


Encryptor

I didn't buy a kit, I bought the plans and sourced/built all of the parts.
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: Franco B on April 05, 2009, 12:28:26 pm
You already know I hate you ;)

Cant wait to see what comes of that bad boy :)
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: marlboroa on April 05, 2009, 02:57:53 pm
whats the total cost to build something like this
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 05, 2009, 11:41:12 pm
Ir really depends on what controller components you go with. I chose the middle of the road for my controller. I have between $3,500 - $4,000 wrapped up in everything...so far  ;)...But, I plan on doing a few upgrades already :-[
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: fixedpigs on April 06, 2009, 01:06:59 am
i see that the wood cutout matches up with your dust collector...

but...

what for...?

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: BASS! on April 06, 2009, 04:22:53 am
Is that a speaker box your making there?
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 06, 2009, 06:58:05 am
i see that the wood cutout matches up with your dust collector...

but...

what for...?

 :cheers:

I made a bracket to replace the rolling cart that it came on. I have very limited workspace and need to squeeze out as much room as possible. Mounting it to the wall and elevating it allows me to slide the chip collector (black can) up under it as well as my air compressor.

Here are some pictures I took last night.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=121461;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=121463;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90051.0;attach=121465;image)
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: javeryh on April 06, 2009, 02:26:28 pm
Just sick.   ;D

Dust collection is my biggest pain in my garage/workshop.... probably because I don't have any.  There is sawdust EVERYWHERE and I really don't know how to go about changing things.  Most of it is from using the router but I do have a fixed tablesaw and a radial saw which also make a total mess...
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 06, 2009, 02:38:15 pm
Just sick.   ;D

Dust collection is my biggest pain in my garage/workshop.... probably because I don't have any.  There is sawdust EVERYWHERE and I really don't know how to go about changing things.  Most of it is from using the router but I do have a fixed tablesaw and a radial saw which also make a total mess...

Thanks James!

Dust collection is a necessity with one of these. I am totally blown away with how well the dust shoe works. After the piece in the video was cut, the only sawdust left on the table could fit in the palm of your hand. Plus, it was all large chips, the fine dust gets removed easily. As they say, it's all about the airflow, not velocity. Who knew ...  :dunno
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: DaOld Man on April 07, 2009, 06:56:22 am
Great work Mountain!
You know you are on my official "People to hate because I am envious" list?
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: Donkey_Kong on April 07, 2009, 09:12:36 am
I know it kinda taking away from the awesomeness of your new cnc toy, but what does the black can do, Is that a cyclone? Do they just collect the chips so that your plastic bag doesn't fill up as fast, or is there another purpose?

I really like the looks of your setup. Thats pretty sweet that you put it all together yourself. I could have never done that. We did end up getting a Shopbot last November though to help us in our sign business.
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 07, 2009, 09:41:04 am
I know it kinda taking away from the awesomeness of your new cnc toy, but what does the black can do, Is that a cyclone? Do they just collect the chips so that your plastic bag doesn't fill up as fast, or is there another purpose?

I really like the looks of your setup. Thats pretty sweet that you put it all together yourself. I could have never done that. We did end up getting a Shopbot last November though to help us in our sign business.

The can is a chip separator. Adding it turns the dust collector into a two stage dust collector. The idea is to have all of the heavier chips fall out into the can. The debris then goes through the motor/propeller and into the filter bag (top) The remaining chips fall out into the plastic bag. I don't have a Cyclone attachment. The Cyclone makes a big difference in what makes it to the plastic bag area (in my setup anyway) I have read that a properly designed system will trap 99% of all debris in the can. This keeps the filter clean for waaaay longer. I plan on doing a mod to the can lid that does the same thing, only much cheaper.

Ben told me you got a Shopbot. How do you like it? What kind of dust collection do you use with it?
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: Donkey_Kong on April 07, 2009, 06:50:25 pm
Dust collection is important for us. This thing is in our basement and we try not to let it get into the duct work, etc. I would like to  maybe build a cyclone someday. I think I have the dust under control for the most part though. It looks like we have the same dust collector, 50-760 ? I also added the spunbond filter from Wynn
http://www.wynnenv.com/delta_50-760.htm

The thing is pretty nice and you can clean it with air.


Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 07, 2009, 08:13:49 pm
Very nice setup. Yes, it looks like we have the same dust collector.

For well under $50, you can make one of these. (http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm) They work very well from what I have been reading. I am designing the lid for mine tonight  ;)
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: AcidArmitage on April 07, 2009, 09:09:12 pm
how do i go about making one of these for say.... about $100?/  :laugh2:  :hissy:
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: thatitalian on April 09, 2009, 11:52:57 am
Nice kit Mike! (you bastard! :P)

On joescnc.com it says the kit is $400. So can I get what you are using (roughly) for $400??? Let me repeat that... $400?

I am going to Vegas soon, if that is the case I am going with an empty case so I can bring one of em back with me!!! :o

Oh, off topic I know, but Happ are based in Vegas, right? If so I am gonna be so broke when I get home ;D
Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: mountain on April 09, 2009, 12:51:26 pm
Nice kit Mike! (you bastard! :P)

On joescnc.com it says the kit is $400. So can I get what you are using (roughly) for $400??? Let me repeat that... $400?

I am going to Vegas soon, if that is the case I am going with an empty case so I can bring one of em back with me!!! :o

Oh, off topic I know, but Happ are based in Vegas, right? If so I am gonna be so broke when I get home ;D

No, that just scratches the surface. He is selling the MDF and HDPE (plastic) parts that he cuts on his CNC machine. These pieces are used to build the carriages and various mounting brackets. You still need to buy the plans ($100) metal for fabricating the base ($250-$700) the extruded aluminum parts ($300)  hardware Kit ($200) V-bearing rollers and bushings ($200+) motors ($200-$400) Electronics ($400 - $1,200) Couplers and anti-backlash nuts ($150 - $200) Router ($100 - $150) Dust collection ($200-$500+) Angle iron rails and brackets (~$100) Router mount bracket ($80) a computer, a pendant, collet kit, ..... :banghead: I hope the wife doesn't read this!

The list keeps growing too. I just dropped ~$200 for enough bits to get me started  :o Now I want to upgrade my x-axis with a mod some of the guys are doing to help make it more solid  (another $150!) Oh yeah, the software ain't cheap either. Mach 3 is what runs the machine via G-code. It is $175. Plus you need a program to generate the G-code (free - $2,500+)



Let's just say that I had a blister on my butt cheek from pulling my wallet out so many times  ;D

Title: Re: Check out my new router attachment
Post by: ViciousXUSMC on April 09, 2009, 09:06:35 pm
You could make the money back once you have designed entire templates for kits, charge people for the kits but charge less than other online kit selling people.  Thats what I think I would do.  I would have fun designing the code/templates and feel better knowing my creation is put to use and helping people.