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Title: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: BlizzardCyclone on March 17, 2009, 03:32:05 am
Would this be ok to use for my MAME cocktail cab?  Ill have to mount it on its back and wanted to know if the pros here could help me out.  Also a great deal for a 19" monitor for $99 shipped from newegg.  The monitor is this one seen here, please let me know ASAP as this sale if for today ONLY.  Thanks again!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL031709&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL031709-_-Monitors-_-L0A-_-24254005 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL031709&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL031709-_-Monitors-_-L0A-_-24254005)
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: Blanka on March 17, 2009, 03:41:42 am
For horizontal use it's probably OK. For vertical use you better search a nice SIPS/PVA second hand 20 inch.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: severdhed on March 17, 2009, 09:33:43 am
i'd probably aviod the widescreen monitor...it just isnt right for mame.  you will end up with either a strethed image, or big black spaces on either side of the screen...so you won't be getting the full 19".

here is the monitor i have in my cabinet...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254013

it is a little more $..but it works great and you get to use the whole screen.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: BlizzardCyclone on March 17, 2009, 01:18:38 pm
So the glare factor is not a problem here?  The one you mentioned above, will look right from either side of my Cocktail cab or is this more for an upright cab?  Please let me know.  Am I just better off getting a replacement arcade monitor or would this be a cheaper fix?  How did you mount it in your cocktail (Im assuming you have a cocktail)  Please respond.  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: BobA on March 17, 2009, 02:12:26 pm
Glare is not the primary problem.  Viewing angle is the important factor.   Some LCDs perform very poorly when viewed from a vertical angle so would not be great in a cocktail.   Unfortunately the only way to tell is to see one working and check the angle yourself.  Specs mean almost nothing for viewing angles.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: severdhed on March 17, 2009, 04:35:13 pm
oh..i missed the part about it being a cocktail cabinet...i'd probably not go with the hanns g monitor i am using in my upright for that.

viewing angles can be a pain in the butt with LCDs
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: BlizzardCyclone on March 17, 2009, 04:42:43 pm
Tell me about it  :hissy:  Please, someone here has to have used an lcd with a cocktail.  What did you use and is it good or not?

On a side note, If I were to use a 19" CRT computer monitor, what would be the best way to mount it in the cocktail cab?  Does someone or some store online make a custom mount to hold it in place?  Ive heard some of these monitors wont work on their backs?
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: Blanka on March 17, 2009, 05:36:51 pm
Search a HP LP 2065. That one can handle extreme viewing angles for a cocktail.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: xtravbx on March 18, 2009, 03:55:46 pm
I have an LCD that I'm going to try in my cocktail.

I will post the results when it's done, maybe a week or 2. Who knows.  :afro:
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: BlizzardCyclone on March 19, 2009, 01:07:05 am
Blanka, I heard widescreen lcds are not good for cocktails, is this true?
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: dreamakuma on March 19, 2009, 06:16:23 am
I have an old dell 17" lcd I bought at a pawnshop for $70 mounted in a cabaret cabinet(was a Birdie King) the angle is where My eyes and it is nearly verticle plexi makes a bit of glare but It doesn't effect the monitor due to an old piece of tinted plexi behind the first piece. works fine. i haven't had any issues with it, color and contrast both come out fine.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: Blanka on March 19, 2009, 07:01:54 am
Blanka, I heard widescreen lcds are not good for cocktails, is this true?
If it has a good blacklevel, and you put grey glass on top off it, noone would actually know.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: BlizzardCyclone on March 19, 2009, 11:51:06 am
I have an old dell 17" lcd I bought at a pawnshop for $70 mounted in a cabaret cabinet(was a Birdie King) the angle is where My eyes and it is nearly verticle plexi makes a bit of glare but It doesn't effect the monitor due to an old piece of tinted plexi behind the first piece. works fine. i haven't had any issues with it, color and contrast both come out fine.
I have a COCKTAIL not CABARET, so Im sure this is a huge difference.

Also, Blanka, Im going to be putting a clear glass over this not gray.  I dont see how that would have any effect, considering if you cant see an lcd from an angle on a COCKTAIL table, I can imagine that a gray glass would make it even harder to see.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: CheffoJeffo on March 20, 2009, 08:10:28 am
I have an old dell 17" lcd I bought at a pawnshop for $70 mounted in a cabaret cabinet(was a Birdie King) the angle is where My eyes and it is nearly verticle plexi makes a bit of glare but It doesn't effect the monitor due to an old piece of tinted plexi behind the first piece. works fine. i haven't had any issues with it, color and contrast both come out fine.
I have a COCKTAIL not CABARET, so Im sure this is a huge difference.

Most CABARETs have low-angle monitor mounting, so what he said may have been revelant.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: dreamakuma on March 20, 2009, 11:21:29 pm
Thanks for the defense CheffoJeffo....Yeah I meant that my monitor is laid pretty darn close to flat and I'm either starin sraight down at it, or at an angle, like a cocktail. While not exactly like a cocktail It's pretty close. I had glare problems and fixed them with tinted plexi, and the veiwing angles are perfect. So I thought I'd chip in something that might help. I know this is for a cocktail, and there are some differences, But since the angle wasn't too different, thought my two cents would be helpful.
Title: Re: Can I use this 19" LCD with my MAME Cocktail cab?
Post by: surface tension on March 21, 2009, 07:26:24 am
This was recently touched on in another thread. You may have to end up mounting upside down and flipping in software to get a good viewing angle.

This may be a little specific but I use 19" Samsungs in the surface tension tables as they are 178 x 178 degrees. So, if you find any screens with a LTM19E04-L02 panel in then you're good to go. They are fantastic.