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Title: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: monkey puzzle on March 13, 2009, 07:02:39 am
Hi. I've been wanting to build a Mame cab for about 3 years now, but struggled getting through the planning stage. After reading through the Project Arcade book and going through this forum, I could never make a decision on what I actually wanted. Which monitor do I use, do I have it vertical or horizontal or rotating, what controls do I use, what size do I want the cab, how much do I wan't to spend? e.t.c.

I realised that I was just going round in circles so in the end I decided to not design the project first (as I originally intended), and instead to just go ahead and build it, whilst making design decisions as I go. I understand that I may make mistakes this way, but thats the way I learn. This is my first cabinet, so if I'm not happy with the results, I can either modify, or start over again.

I'm not sure what artwork I'm going to use, or what PC to fit inside. I am going to try keeping a wood finnish on the sides of the cab by using stain and varnish, but if I'm not happy with this I can always paint over it. I'm calling the cab Smith-o-tron for now, but that name might change.
Anyway, I started construction a couple of weeks ago, I will post pictures and updates as I go. Any advice or critisisms will be welcomed, as I understand there are many people out there who know a lot more than me.


Pictures:

1/   For the sides I'm using a standard size sheet of Brazil ply.
2/   I've decided on a slim cab with LCD screen, so a single sheet should be enough for both sides.
3/   Cut out the basic shape with circular saw and used holesaw for internal radius's.
4/   Trimmed up the edges with router.

Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: javeryh on March 13, 2009, 10:22:07 am
Nice start!  It's best to jump in after thinking about it for a bit otherwise you risk overanalyzing everything.  Do you know how you are going to handle the CP integrating with the side panels?  Are you building the CP in between or putting a box on top?  I only ask because the transition from the flat area to the angled part (that the monitor will line up with) looks a bit tricky...   :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on March 13, 2009, 11:13:26 am
Nice start!  It's best to jump in after thinking about it for a bit otherwise you risk overanalyzing everything.  Do you know how you are going to handle the CP integrating with the side panels?  Are you building the CP in between or putting a box on top?  I only ask because the transition from the flat area to the angled part (that the monitor will line up with) looks a bit tricky...   :cheers:

I will be putting the CP between the sides, I always thought this looks more like a real arcade machine. I havn't really thought about what you said, but I guess I would cut the back of the CP at an angle, so that it would sit neatly up against the glass, without leaving too much of a gap.
Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on March 17, 2009, 05:49:47 pm
Ok, Ive done a bit more work to the sides. I recieved my T-molding today from the good ole US of A, and just orderd my overpriced slot cutter router-bit, so that will be my next job.

5/   Stained the sides 'American walnut'
6/   Applied 3 coats of varnish
7/   I'm very happy with the satin finnish
8/   Painted primer on the insides, ready to paint them black

Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on March 31, 2009, 06:51:18 pm
I've finally finished the sides. I've also bought the monitor and 4mm bronze toughened glass. Next I will have to do the base, top, speaker shelf, monitor shelf e.t.c.

9/    Painted insides of side panels
10/  Cut slot for T-moulding
11/  Fitted T-moulding
12/  The finished sides 
Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: boomstick on April 15, 2009, 03:14:04 pm
Looks like your making some good progress :cheers:

I know where your coming from on the planning stage, I've been wanting to build a cabinet since around late 2005. I've planned, bought some parts, planned some more, seen something new on the net or these forums, re-planned, bought new parts etc, etc, etc.  If i keep up at this rate, I'll be spending my pension on parts, whilst looking at an empty corner in my living room where my cabinet should be, fingers too arthritic to play.

So far I've built a couple of mock-up CP's and a coin box which i hook up to a PC when I play, they do the job, but its not the same.

I really think it's about time that I follow your example and Jump In.  After all, like yourself, it will be my first full cabinet build, so I can always use it as an enjoyable learning esxperience.

Anyhow, I look forward to seeing your progress.  Reading your project thread may well have given me that final "kick in the ass" I need!
Cheers
Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on April 15, 2009, 05:17:51 pm
Looks like your making some good progress :cheers:

I know where your coming from on the planning stage, I've been wanting to build a cabinet since around late 2005. I've planned, bought some parts, planned some more, seen something new on the net or these forums, re-planned, bought new parts etc, etc, etc.  If i keep up at this rate, I'll be spending my pension on parts, whilst looking at an empty corner in my living room where my cabinet should be, fingers too arthritic to play.

So far I've built a couple of mock-up CP's and a coin box which i hook up to a PC when I play, they do the job, but its not the same.

I really think it's about time that I follow your example and Jump In.  After all, like yourself, it will be my first full cabinet build, so I can always use it as an enjoyable learning esxperience.

Anyhow, I look forward to seeing your progress.  Reading your project thread may well have given me that final "kick in the ass" I need!
Cheers

Good luck with your build, and make sure you take lots of pics and post them on these forums! I too have been reading these forums for a few years, but I have already found that you learn a lot more when you actually starting building. You find that you come to hurdles that you never even thought of before, and then you find a way over that hurdle and come to another e.t.c. Each time you find yourself finding out more about that actual part than you already knew. I don't know if that makes sense but you will know what I mean when you start building. Anyway, I've done a bit more to my cab now (built base, top, monitor shelf etc.) and will post more pics soon.
Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on April 27, 2009, 03:44:15 pm
O.K. time for an update. Havn't done a lot lately but here goes anyway:

13/   Cut plywood for base, monitor shelf, speaker shelf, top, lower back, angled bit.
14/   Made base and fitted wheels.
15/   Painted everything black.
16/   Made some brackets for inside.
Title: Re: Project Spam-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on May 25, 2009, 03:33:27 pm
Things are all starting to come together now. It's starting to look a bit more like an arcade machine and a bit less like a pile of wood. I'm pleased I haven't made any major cock-ups yet (except for a slip of the router, but that was easily repairable). I am starting to wonder though if I should have put a bit of a slope on the control panel area, we'll have to wait and see what it's like.
Anyway, I found it relatively easy to put everything together, and managed to do it all by myself no problems. I'm also pleased that I haven't had to put a single screw though the sides from the outside, and yet everything feels very solid.

Hmmm can't seem to attach pictures, it used to be in additional options, but isn't there anymore.

Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Kman-Sweden on May 26, 2009, 03:45:13 am
Realy nice.  :applaud:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on May 26, 2009, 03:25:04 pm
Realy nice.  :applaud:

Thanks I'll get some more pictures up as soon as its working again.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on May 27, 2009, 03:39:34 pm
Ok, I couldn't get pictures up before, but it seems its working again so here goes:

17/   Attached strips of plywood to the inside of sides, and drawer runners for keyboard.
18/   The underneath of the base, I have fitted my brackets to the sides for stability.
19/   All screwed together with monitor shelf, lower back e.t.c.
20/   Also got top on and back angled bit. Its starting to look like something now!

Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Si the Sigh on June 10, 2009, 07:59:06 am
Hello,

This cab is looking great so far! Do you have the rough sizes of the side panels? If so, could you post them please? I'm about to build a slim cab and this looks like a great project to keep an eye on as an example.

All the best with the build. :cheers:

Si
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on June 10, 2009, 04:16:41 pm
Hello,

This cab is looking great so far! Do you have the rough sizes of the side panels? If so, could you post them please? I'm about to build a slim cab and this looks like a great project to keep an eye on as an example.

All the best with the build. :cheers:

Si

I'm afraid, I didn't make any digital plans, I just made scetches on paper as I went along, but I'll try to expain as best as possible:

Total height:   1800mm
Distance from bottom to control panel top:  950mm
Distance from control panel top to bottom of marque:  647mm
Height of marque:   203mm

Therefore the 1st dimention equals the sum of the other 3


Distance from front to back:  600mm
Distance from front of marque to back:  370mm
Depth of control panel:   230mm

Hope this helps. If I didn't explain it very clear, or you need any other dimentions, please let me know. Good luck with your build, I can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Si the Sigh on June 11, 2009, 02:35:31 am
Many thanks. I'll try and knock up a sketch from those dimensions and if it's all looking good, I'll crack on and cut the wood.

Thanks again for the reply. :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on August 13, 2009, 05:52:58 pm
Haven't done much in a while. But now I've finally found a shop that sells 15mm (5/8")MDF.

21/  I decided to put a bit of a slope (about 9 deg) on the control panel so I re-routed the sides

22/   Cut and fitted top back panel

23/   Cut MDF for front door and control panel
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Epyx on August 13, 2009, 06:18:26 pm
I like that slope...not too much but definitely changes the look for the better!
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Vebbo on August 13, 2009, 06:39:45 pm
Nice progress. Looks really good.  :applaud:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on September 27, 2009, 04:37:38 pm
Done a little bit more. I decided to paint the bare wood on the inside of the cabinet. I don't know if this was really necesary as you will never see the insides except for repair.

24/   Made a stand for the monitor to bring it to the correct height and screwed it to shelf

25/   Painted the unpainted parts of the inside, and fitted monitor

26/   Fitted a brace to the back of monitor and insides of cab to avoid any wobble

27/   Painted and fitted back panels

Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Yvan256 on September 28, 2009, 09:34:53 am
Shouldn't the monitor be in the center of the monitor area? I mean, at the position the monitor is mounted right now, you will have a very small area at the top of the monitor before reaching the speakers panel and a huuuuuge area at the bottom of the monitor before reaching the control panel. Imagine the monitor bezel artwork and the final look.

Unless of course you plan to do something that I completely missed.  :dunno
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on September 28, 2009, 12:44:53 pm
Shouldn't the monitor be in the center of the monitor area? I mean, at the position the monitor is mounted right now, you will have a very small area at the top of the monitor before reaching the speakers panel and a huuuuuge area at the bottom of the monitor before reaching the control panel. Imagine the monitor bezel artwork and the final look.

Unless of course you plan to do something that I completely missed.  :dunno

Good point. I wanted the monitor at this height because it is the correct height for my eye level (and I will be playing it the most). The distance above the monitor is about the same as the distance at the sides (you can see this more clearly in picture 28). This leaves a much bigger area at the bottom. I was thinking of painting a black border around the edges of the monitor, and have the bottom border the same size as the top and sides. The remaining area at the bottom I was going to fill up with the same artwork as the control panel. Tell me what you think this would be like. If need be, I can always have a re-think and change it.

 
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: drventure on September 28, 2009, 12:54:40 pm
Very nice. I love the stained wood finish, but then I'm a sucker for nice woodworking  :)

And the black tmold looks great!

I thought  about something like that a while back, but I was always concerned that a vast amount of detailess stained wood sides would detract from things. I'd considered traditional cabinet panel design (rail and stile), but, well, that's a little beyond me right now.

But this is looking good, so maybe my concerns were unwarranted...
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Yvan256 on September 28, 2009, 01:51:34 pm
The remaining area at the bottom I was going to fill up with the same artwork as the control panel. Tell me what you think this would be like. If need be, I can always have a re-think and change it.

I think the best thing right now would be to do a 2D drawing/sketch with the appropriate dimensions and see how it would look like. One way to merge the CP and the extra area under the monitor (minus the bezel) would be a rounded CP of some sort, though that would make the whole thing harder to build.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on September 28, 2009, 01:59:59 pm
The remaining area at the bottom I was going to fill up with the same artwork as the control panel. Tell me what you think this would be like. If need be, I can always have a re-think and change it.

I think the best thing right now would be to do a 2D drawing/sketch with the appropriate dimensions and see how it would look like. One way to merge the CP and the extra area under the monitor (minus the bezel) would be a rounded CP of some sort, though that would make the whole thing harder to build.


Good idea, I'll try and knock up a scetch.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on September 28, 2009, 03:24:50 pm
Very nice. I love the stained wood finish, but then I'm a sucker for nice woodworking  :)

And the black tmold looks great!

I thought  about something like that a while back, but I was always concerned that a vast amount of detailess stained wood sides would detract from things. I'd considered traditional cabinet panel design (rail and stile), but, well, that's a little beyond me right now.

But this is looking good, so maybe my concerns were unwarranted...

Thanks. I like a stained and varnished finish too. Also I thought it would be the simplest route to take for me. I have never fitted laminate before, and I think that with stained wood it doesn't matter as much if there are any imperfections. And I think it ages well too.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on September 29, 2009, 03:42:47 pm
The remaining area at the bottom I was going to fill up with the same artwork as the control panel. Tell me what you think this would be like. If need be, I can always have a re-think and change it.

I think the best thing right now would be to do a 2D drawing/sketch with the appropriate dimensions and see how it would look like. One way to merge the CP and the extra area under the monitor (minus the bezel) would be a rounded CP of some sort, though that would make the whole thing harder to build.


Ok, I don't know if this will help but heres something I just knocked up in Paint. It doesn't have the type of artwork I will use but it gives an idea of scale and hopefully gives an impression of what it could look like. Telll me what you think. I don't think I could do a rounded CP. :embarassed:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Yvan256 on September 29, 2009, 09:14:09 pm
Ok, I don't know if this will help but heres something I just bodged up in paint. It doesn't have the type of artwork I will use but it gives an idea of scale and hopefully gives an impression of what it could look like. Telll me what you think. I don't think I could do a rounded CP. :embarassed:

One thing you could do is put all the credits/players/admin buttons on that panel, clearing up space on the main CP for the actual game controls and maybe have room for extra controllers you thought you had no room for.

Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on September 30, 2009, 04:43:10 pm
Ok, I don't know if this will help but heres something I just bodged up in paint. It doesn't have the type of artwork I will use but it gives an idea of scale and hopefully gives an impression of what it could look like. Telll me what you think. I don't think I could do a rounded CP. :embarassed:

One thing you could do is put all the credits/players/admin buttons on that panel, clearing up space on the main CP for the actual game controls and maybe have room for extra controllers you thought you had no room for.



Hmm, I like the way you're thinking. Unfortunately it is part of the glass covering the monitor and you can't put holes in glass. But maybe I could mount a peice of plexiglass over it at an angle and put buttons in that.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Yvan256 on September 30, 2009, 05:00:51 pm
Hmm, I like the way you're thinking. Unfortunately it is part of the glass covering the monitor and you can't put holes in glass. But maybe I could mount a peice of plexiglass over it at an angle and put buttons in that.

And if you do that, it's not much of a stretch to put curved joints (say, 5-10 cm radius) between the CP, the admin CP and the monitor glass...
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on October 01, 2009, 05:58:16 pm

And if you do that, it's not much of a stretch to put curved joints (say, 5-10 cm radius) between the CP, the admin CP and the monitor glass...

Sounds good but I've never worked with plexiglass before. I don't know how to go about putting a curve in, it sounds difficult. Also how would I go about putting a curve in between the admin CP and the monitor glass? I can't think how this can be done without the join being highly visible.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on October 10, 2009, 05:28:42 pm
As well as being a gaming machine, I also want to use the setup for normal PC useage, so its important that I have a keyboard shelf that slides out easily. But it will be hidden away when not in use. It's also the right height to use with a bar stool.

30/   Made keyboard shelf from old peice of blockboard found in the shed and varnished

31/   Fitted to drawer runners. Shelf is actually quite sturdy and doesn't wobble on the runners.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on November 07, 2009, 06:55:49 pm
Ok, I've now reached the point now where I have done all the woodwork and put everything together except the control panel, artwork and all the electronics. I've kept a log of the costs and so far its £230.78 ($383.45). This is quite cheap because a lot of the wood used has been odd bits I've found in the shed which I havn't included in the costings. £116 of the cost went on the monitor. I am going to have to start spending a bit of money now though before I can do any more (which could be tricky in my situation).



32/   Front door fitted using regular kitchen unit sprung hinges

33/   Front door on, control panel top layed in place (there will be something to hide the keyboard shelf)

34/   Glass fitted (yet to be painted around edges), speaker shelf fitted
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on July 24, 2011, 03:41:27 pm
I can't believe it's been 20 months since I last worked on my project! One divorce and one house move later and I've finally decided it's time to continue working on my cab. I've bought Utrak and U360 sticks (with stiff springs) from Ultimarc, and I also have some buttons on the way from Groovy game gear. I'm gonna get a lot of the smaller jobs out of the way before I work on my control panel. This will give me the time to design it properly.

35/   I broke the monitor case and soldered a couple of wires to the button for changing the monitor to widescreen mode. I'm gonna put another button on the back of the cab to make it easier to change.

36/   Painted the area around the montior black on the monitor glass.

37/   Trackball and joysticks from Ultimarc.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: GibsonRiddler on July 24, 2011, 05:44:18 pm
Welcome back!!! Our hobby's always seem to take a back seat to life.

Really like the look of this. A very clean design. Nice to see it being finished.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on October 02, 2011, 05:45:21 pm
Latest update: I received pushbuttons from GGG and made a mock-up of my control panel on a scrap peice of chipboard. I've noticed a few things I'm not too happy about with my design so the actual real control panel will be slightly different from this. I de-cased a set of PC speakers and fitted them to the speaker shelf along with the amplifier pcb from the speakers. The speaker grills I fitted were from a 1989 Nissan Sunny (the best car I ever owned), I knew there was a reason I kept them when scrapping the car.


38/   Mock-up of control panel

39/   PC speakers and circuit board fitted to inside of speaker shelf

40/   Speaker grills fitted
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Yvan256 on October 02, 2011, 06:03:23 pm
Latest update: I received pushbuttons from GGG and made a mock-up of my control panel on a scrap peice of chipboard. I've noticed a few things I'm not too happy about with my design so the actual real control panel will be slightly different from this.
It's better to make a simple control panel for testing than to regret it and have to make a second complete control panel with the overlay, the drilled plexiglass, etc.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on October 02, 2011, 06:12:34 pm
Latest update: I received pushbuttons from GGG and made a mock-up of my control panel on a scrap peice of chipboard. I've noticed a few things I'm not too happy about with my design so the actual real control panel will be slightly different from this.
It's better to make a simple control panel for testing than to regret it and have to make a second complete control panel with the overlay, the drilled plexiglass, etc.  :cheers:

Thats exactly what I thought. Before I made this I was sure that the pause and exit buttons at the back would look great. Now I don't like them. Also, I think the sticks and buttons can come forward a bit, and player 2 controls can move to the right a bit to give more space between players. I'm still not sure where to put the player start buttons though.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Yvan256 on October 02, 2011, 06:22:27 pm
I'm still not sure where to put the player start buttons though.

On the Neo-Geo, the player start buttons are above and a bit to the left of each player's joystick.

Another setup would be to put both buttons in the middle, roughly where your square buttons currently are.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on October 03, 2011, 06:51:19 pm
I'm still not sure where to put the player start buttons though.

On the Neo-Geo, the player start buttons are above and a bit to the left of each player's joystick.

Another setup would be to put both buttons in the middle, roughly where your square buttons currently are.


I think I might put them either in the middle like you said, or above and between the joysticks and buttons.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on October 03, 2011, 09:48:40 pm
Or maybe on the front edge of the control panel. :-\
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on October 24, 2011, 05:55:59 pm
Ok, I've started building my control panel now. I've ordered the spinner and some more buttons from GGG.
Going to try and create artwork for the marquee and CPO soon, I'm going for a modified Robotron theme I think.

41/   Drilled out my control panel

42/   Routed areas for joysticks

43/   Fitted the front to the cp

44/   Made some restrictor plates for my U360s
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on November 13, 2011, 03:54:15 pm
Today was a bit disasterous. I'm using Glazelite acrylic sheet on my pull-out trackball panel. I cut the piece to size, and then started to practice using the holesaw on a big offcut. I cut a couple of practice holes no problem, but then reallised that it wasn't the offcut I was practicing on, it was the actual piece and I just ruined it!  :banghead:

Rather than buy more acrylic I decided to use the offcut piece which is actually smaller than the top of the trackball panel. This shouldn't be a problem though because I will just have the panel not pull out as far.

I think I've just about finished all the woodwork now. Must get round to doing that artwork.


45/   Coin door fitted to cab

46/   Drilled and routed top of trackball panel

47/   Cut and drilled acrylic for trackball  panel

48/   Pull-out trackball panel
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: EightBySix on November 13, 2011, 04:33:31 pm
I cut a couple of practice holes no problem, but then reallised that it wasn't the offcut I was practicing on, it was the actual piece and I just ruined it!  :banghead:

Awwww man, you must have been gutted! Glad you found a work around. Someone should start a thread for similar silly mistake stories. Like the idea of a slide out trackball panel.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on November 13, 2011, 06:03:39 pm
Awwww man, you must have been gutted! Glad you found a work around. Someone should start a thread for similar silly mistake stories. Like the idea of a slide out trackball panel.

Yeah, I guess we all do it at least once. You can spend as much time as you like measuring and preparing, but take your mind off things for just a second and you end up doing something stupid like this. Could have wasted a bit of money, lucky I could use the offcut.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 29, 2012, 06:34:10 am
I haven't posted pics in a while because I have been working on my artwork. I didn't start from scratch, I'm just modifying Robotron artwork but I still found this very frustrating and time consuming when you are new to Adobe Illustrator. :banghead:

Anyway, my art files are finished now and I'm just waiting for a delivery from Game on Grafix. In the meantime I fitted my trackball with LEDs.


49/   Fitted white LEDs with 110R resistor to a piece of shiney plastic.

50/   Trackball fitted underneath control panel with LED assembly. I used nuts as spacers because the screws were too long.

51/   The hole may look a little big, but thats because I need to fit the bezel there.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on February 11, 2012, 05:26:30 pm
Artwork has arrived from Game on Grafix. I have fitted this to my cab now and I am very impressed with the quality. This project will soon be finished now I think.

52/   Marquee fitted. I think I need to fit some trim around the edge to tidy things up.

53/   Main cpo fitted. It was scary fitting this, I really didn't want to mess it up. Hard to line it up straight, but I got there in the end.

54/   Trackball panel overlay fitted, and ball and buttons fitted.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: jimmy2x2x on February 11, 2012, 07:10:30 pm
Artwork looks great!
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on February 11, 2012, 08:10:05 pm
Artwork looks great!


Thanks. The design was a Robotron rip-off. I just modified it a bit. Looks exactly how I was hoping it to look though.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on February 13, 2012, 05:52:34 pm
Ok I've done all the wiring of control panels and various other parts of the cab, and suprisingly everything worked first time! Expect to see some completion pictures very soon.

55/   Wiring of trackball panel.

56/   Wiring of main cp. I will secure the wires down with cable clips.

57/   Wiring of coin door. I fitted 2 switches inside the door to control various LEDs on the cab and a volume knob.

58/   I think these fake coin slots look great when illuminated.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Nephasth on October 28, 2012, 08:53:40 pm
As a Smith, I really like this build. ;D

Also, add some of those nice pics you posted in the CP Database to this thread!
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Arturius on November 02, 2012, 10:09:57 am
I love the idea of a pull out trackball panel, may have to use that with your permission :)
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 01, 2013, 04:54:51 pm
As a Smith, I really like this build. ;D

Also, add some of those nice pics you posted in the CP Database to this thread!

Sorry for the late reply here are those pictures:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=270974;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=270976;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=270978;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=270980;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=270982;image)
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 01, 2013, 05:00:49 pm
I love the idea of a pull out trackball panel, may have to use that with your permission :)

Of course you have my permission. It makes me so happy to see that somebody likes the work I have done and want to do something similar. When/if you build it, please post pictures here or leave a link to your project if you have one.

And don't forget to ask questions if you need to.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Jumpman64 on January 10, 2013, 11:55:19 am
I really like this cabinet!  Do you have any photos from further out, to show the whole cabinet?
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: yotsuya on January 10, 2013, 12:04:37 pm
Personally, I'm not a fan of drawers or add-ons, but yours is nicely intergrated and looks great! Kudos!!!  :applaud:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Vidiot on January 10, 2013, 02:05:39 pm
Those controls are beautifully executed. Well done.  :applaud:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Yvan256 on January 10, 2013, 07:48:36 pm
48/   Pull-out trackball panel

Wow, I'm not sure if it's a new idea or not, but IMHO that's a good and easy way to get more controls without crowding the main CP.  :applaud:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: PL1 on January 11, 2013, 01:08:03 am
48/   Pull-out trackball panel

Wow, I'm not sure if it's a new idea or not, but IMHO that's a good and easy way to get more controls without crowding the main CP.  :applaud:

It's a great way to hide pinball flippers or put them at a comfortable distance on a 4-player panel.


Scott
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: drventure on January 11, 2013, 01:53:51 am
Nice job on the pull out panel.

How did you get it to lock? or does it?

Love how it completely hides away.

 :applaud:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on January 11, 2013, 09:47:45 am
+1 love the drawer.  do you use those stereo cabinet magnetic push-in to pop out latches for it?  please say yes!
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 13, 2013, 11:55:22 am
Thanks for all your kind comments, I'm glad you all like the pull out panel. The reason I thought of doing this is because I'm not a big fan of cluttered control panels and I don't really like cps that are wider than the cabinet. I'm not sure if anybody has thought of this before but I haven't seen anything here like this.


Nice job on the pull out panel.

How did you get it to lock? or does it?

Love how it completely hides away.

 :applaud:

I have used magnetic kitchen cupboard latches to lock the slide out panel (2 at front and 2 at back). I found some spare peices of steel that are like half boxes, these are screwed to the bottom of the drawer and hit against the back magnets when the drawer is closed and the front magnets when the drawer is open. This seem to work really well and the magnets are strong enough so that the drawer doesn't accidently move when you don't want it to.

I used good quality drawer runners that make the pull out panel feel very solid (there is no wobble). Also I fitted a limit switch at the back of the drawer so the illuminated controls turn off when the drawer is closed. You will see this better when I upload a video.

59/   Magnetic latches for pull out control panel.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 13, 2013, 12:00:02 pm
+1 love the drawer.  do you use those stereo cabinet magnetic push-in to pop out latches for it?  please say yes!

That sounds like a really good idea, unfortunately I didn't think of that. Do you think the springs would be strong enough though? They usually spring open a glass door on a stereo cabinet, but I'm not sure if my control panel is too heavy. I wish I would have thought of this and researched it.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: Vidiot on January 13, 2013, 12:48:20 pm
I love your use of the magnets. I would love to do something like this someday.Brilliant! Also I wanna say that I love the artwork too. Everything looks so well done.  :applaud:
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 14, 2013, 02:29:40 pm
I really like this cabinet!  Do you have any photos from further out, to show the whole cabinet?

Ok, here are some photos of the finished build. The project is not actually finished yet, I still need to sort out the layout for Mala. I am looking for a layout that is 1280 x 768 but I'm not having much luck so I might have to make my own. I will upload a video when I have finished.
Title: Re: Project Smith-o-tron
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 14, 2013, 02:31:31 pm
And some more:
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: SpaceHedgehog on January 14, 2013, 04:30:26 pm
Really nice cab, lovely artwork and some great photos, particularly the last one.
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: BadMouth on January 14, 2013, 04:41:47 pm
 :cheers:
That's all I have to say.
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: Vidiot on January 15, 2013, 09:16:55 am
Beautiful! Great job!  :applaud:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: atog on January 15, 2013, 05:04:48 pm
Your artwork is amazing, the colors pop and the lines look nice and crisp.  I have a soft spot for Robotron, one of my all time favorites to play in the arcades back in the early 80's!
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 16, 2013, 12:55:02 pm
Your artwork is amazing, the colors pop and the lines look nice and crisp.  I have a soft spot for Robotron, one of my all time favorites to play in the arcades back in the early 80's!

Thanks for the kind feedback everyone. I didn't ever play Robotron back in the day but when I was searching for inspiration for artwork I realised that this style is for me. I really like the simple colours and lines, they have a look to them that is really retro looking now. Also I really like the font (Data70) which I remembered being used for lots of robotic/electronic themed things back then, but is not used anymore. I modified the Robotron artwork using Adobe Illustrator and I'm very pleased with the results, I'm glad I went this route.
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: jasonbar on January 16, 2013, 08:26:46 pm
Slick idea with the pull-out drawer for alternate controls! How does the height difference between the fixed & sliding control panels feel when you play with the trackball??

-Jason
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 17, 2013, 03:49:46 pm
Slick idea with the pull-out drawer for alternate controls! How does the height difference between the fixed & sliding control panels feel when you play with the trackball??

-Jason

Thanks, glad you like it. I've never had a problem with the height of the pull out panel. It is 32" from the ground, which is only 4" lower than the main control panel. Also I purposely didn't put a slope on it because it feels more comfortable that way if it is slightly lower. I think joystick would be less comfortable lower down, but trackball doesn't feel bad at all. Also, I can't think of a situation where you would need to use both control panels at the same time.
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: stigzler on March 23, 2013, 12:10:37 pm
Monkey,

This machine is the mutts! I'm just about to start my first build. Love the compact nature of the cab and also the ingenious pull out design. Perfect cab!

Soooo.... can i nick your ideas!?   :P

The cab design is just what I'm looking for - you don;t have any plans or layout drawings do you? Needing those dimensions so can make a start!

Also, where did you get your spinner from. Researching controls at the moment, and those things are looking expensive!

Cheers,

Steve
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: z-kun on March 23, 2013, 02:06:11 pm
Wow, that's gorgeous! I love the stained wood sides. Stained wood just has a nice, classy, timeless look to it. And I love the pull-out control panel for the extra controls! That was a great idea. :D
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: monkey puzzle on June 09, 2013, 06:43:19 pm
Monkey,

This machine is the mutts! I'm just about to start my first build. Love the compact nature of the cab and also the ingenious pull out design. Perfect cab!

Soooo.... can i nick your ideas!?   :P

The cab design is just what I'm looking for - you don;t have any plans or layout drawings do you? Needing those dimensions so can make a start!

Also, where did you get your spinner from. Researching controls at the moment, and those things are looking expensive!

Cheers,

Steve

Of course you can nick my ideas. I would be happy to share them with as many people as possible.

Unfortunately, I didn't make any proper plans for the cab, I just kind of made it up as I went along. If you check earlier on in this thread I listed some of the main dimensions, just let me know if you want any others and I will measure them.

As for the spinner, it is a TurboTwist2 spinner from Groovy game gear, and is my favorite control on the cab. Highly recommended. http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=268&zenid=q6p1mesppj7s7tlli4is7tugk5 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=268&zenid=q6p1mesppj7s7tlli4is7tugk5)

The joysticks are U360's and although they can be used for many different types of game (4-way, 8-way, analog etc), I'm thinking of changing them for something with a more positive feel. Also, they don't always return to the exact center in analog mode. I think it is maybe better to use 4-way/8-way switchable joysticks.
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: keilmillerjr on June 09, 2013, 08:02:18 pm
This cabinet came out nice. Good job!
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: Ond on June 09, 2013, 08:52:28 pm
Great use of stained and varnished plywood in this cab.  I'm using the very same spinner model and color on my cab.
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: SnaXen on June 10, 2013, 04:08:22 am
 :applaud: :applaud:
Nice work!!
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: Maximus on June 10, 2013, 12:06:52 pm
This is a beautiful project. The control panel artwork looks fantastic, and I love the drawer for the trackball, a really nice approach. The retro art combined with the stained wood gives it an uber-classic feel, well done fine sir!!!

My only worry would be trying to play Golden Tee with that trackball - OUCHY FINGERS@!!!
Title: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: mgb on June 10, 2013, 12:42:21 pm
This is a very nice build.
It's a thin cabinet but still has classic styling. Very nicely done.
That pull out panel is very slick.

 I imagine the trackball placement may not be great for that drunk superman power shot technique that some use for golden tee but it must be nice for classics like centipede and missile command.

Again, great job
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: VanillaGorilla on June 11, 2013, 07:37:03 pm
Guy. Man. Dude. Nice job pulling in the reigns from the clutches of time. That looks superlative. Well done.
Title: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: mgb on June 11, 2013, 09:02:41 pm
Guy. Man. Dude.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=4zEi3yXy_5g&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4zEi3yXy_5g
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: shponglefan on June 11, 2013, 09:16:17 pm
Very awesome.  Looks like it came straight from the 80's!  :applaud:
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: EssexMame on June 12, 2013, 04:52:15 am
Looks fantastic!

I love the idea of the pullout drawer for the occasional controls! Is it stable when you lean on it? I could imagine a drawer bending down but how is it secured?
Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: monkey puzzle on June 12, 2013, 01:50:09 pm
Thanks once again for the feedback everyone. Makes me feel good to read so many positive comments.


My only worry would be trying to play Golden Tee with that trackball - OUCHY FINGERS@!!!

I see what you mean about that. If you spun the ball back fast you would probably hit your hand on the panel behind it. I'm personally not familiar with Golden Tee so this doesn't bother me too much. I mainly wanted the trackball for Marble Madness, crystal castles, centipede and missile command.


Looks fantastic!

I love the idea of the pullout drawer for the occasional controls! Is it stable when you lean on it? I could imagine a drawer bending down but how is it secured?

I used quite high quality drawer runners. They feel very sturdy and I think you would have to put considerable force down to bend them, but I haven't tested that yet.  ;)

Title: Re: Smithotron: Build finished - Pictures
Post by: monkey puzzle on January 24, 2016, 03:14:37 pm
Just an update. I've done a few tweaks to improve things. I also designed and printed my instruction card which is a nice finishing touch I think.

66/   Octagonal restrictors fitted to U360s is a definite improvement

67/   Fitted extra button above spinner. Makes it much easier to play Ikari warriors, midnight resistance etc. The player uses the spinner with the right hand and uses the orange button and the player 2 button with the middle and ring finger of the same hand

68/   Instruction card fitted