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Title: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 18, 2009, 02:21:25 pm
Basically, the premises we have are split over three floors.

1st: Restaurant
Ground: Coffee Bar
Basement: Video Games, Foosball, Air Hockey, Pool, Sky TV (Sports)

We plan to offer table service throughout, and a high-quality menu that will be for both take out and eat in. We also serve alcohol for on licence use. Decor is open, dependent on name.

We have narrowed down a potential list of names which are in the poll above. Would really value independent thoughts on these, so vote if you have an opinion and share your reasoning too if you can

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 18, 2009, 02:29:40 pm
I hate to ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- in your cereal, but I don't like even one of those choices enough to vote.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: joeH on February 18, 2009, 02:32:45 pm
I'm in agreement.  If you are absolutely set on those choices, I'll pick Voodoo, but I really don't like any of those names.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 18, 2009, 02:38:03 pm
I hate to ---Cleveland steamer--- in your cereal, but I don't like even one of those choices enough to vote.

All feedback really important. Thanks! I added none of the above :)
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Franco B on February 18, 2009, 02:45:00 pm
Out of those I would probably go for Hub although it would be more suited to a LAN center/cafe.

Where abouts is it by the way?
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 18, 2009, 02:47:03 pm
Franco, it's in Douglas, Isle of Man
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: saint on February 18, 2009, 03:02:02 pm
Names are horrible... sorry :) 
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: RayB on February 18, 2009, 03:44:24 pm
I'm Canadian, so "Chapters" is out. That's the name of a well established book store chain here.

I like "The Hub" best.  Only GEEKS will think of "LAN center", which is OK since they like games anyways, and you have some! :-) ( see definition here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hub )

Have you already done trademark searches on those choices?
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Franco B on February 18, 2009, 03:45:19 pm
Guilty as charged  :P
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: wooowman93 on February 18, 2009, 04:10:40 pm
ok, isn't there aplace already called chapters and honestly thos are some crazy name's try something more now, not like voodo and hub that is weird try something like all your arcade's is belong to us
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: pinballwizard79 on February 18, 2009, 04:24:07 pm
Name it "Unga Bunga".

That should get people talking.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: parag0n on February 18, 2009, 04:50:20 pm
call it 4Q

That way, nobody will be able to talk about it without insulting someone :P
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: SavannahLion on February 18, 2009, 06:35:24 pm
For the most part, most bar names have been done to death in dozens of different ways in thousands of locations around the world. Might as well call the bar Drawfull (or whatever your Real World (c) name is) and be done with it.

Why not do a local (regional?) contest to see who can come up with the best name? Offer something like a gaming card good for a years worth of game play or something?
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: nic6paul on February 18, 2009, 07:34:57 pm
By the University I attended we had a coffee shop called "The Hub".  Very popular and pretty good atmosphere too.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: mrserv0n on February 18, 2009, 08:06:26 pm
Horrible names. Not a good start
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: EwJ on February 18, 2009, 09:17:18 pm
What market are you targeting?  High school kids,  all ages/family, teenage/young adult/university? It might help with deciding the name.
Ex. if family, a good name might not be Buttmonkey's Hideout. (teen/university maybe).

Drawfull's(or insert name here) Place or Drawfull's Cafe might be safe bets.
Anything but what you have listed.  The Hadron Disaster, The Wiley Wombat, hell, The Electric Banana - anything else.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: TOK on February 18, 2009, 09:28:38 pm
I voted none of the above as well. That Aitch one is weird and hard to say.
The others are a bit too generic. I can't really offer a suggestion on an alternate name, but I think it'd be helpful to convey the gaming/entertainment part of your operation. Cheetah Room sounds like a nudie bar.

The Hub seems closest along those lines. There was a place near me called Cyberhub. It was like a hangout gaming place that had overnight parties and stuff. Unfortunately, it didn't make it but I see the domain is up for sale.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Blanka on February 19, 2009, 12:41:15 am
I voted for Aitch, bur only if you leave the A away. Itch would be pretty funny  :laugh:
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: paulscade on February 19, 2009, 08:38:04 am
OK... I'll say it... I like "Chapters".

The place has multiple floors symbolizing different "chapters"... from Old school (the arcade)... through the restaurant... to the Coffee bar (probably the most recent "chapter"....
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: javeryh on February 19, 2009, 10:06:17 am
I'd just call it "Dave & Busters" and be done with it.   ;D
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 19, 2009, 10:27:23 am
I'd just call it "Dave & Busters" and be done with it.   ;D

No, you're supposed to confuse people with a slightly different name.

DAVID BUSTER'S
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 19, 2009, 10:29:03 am
And what's up with Purple Moon? "Raspberry Corvette" already taken? ;D
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: shardian on February 19, 2009, 10:40:01 am
Most of those would be great....


...if you were opening a strip joint or a gay bar.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: SavannahLion on February 19, 2009, 11:33:02 am
Most of those would be great....


...if you were opening a strip joint or a gay bar.

You didn't see his other thread? He found another building with lower rent. Those are going to be on the 2nd floor and in the back room respectively.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:02:26 pm
OK... I'll say it... I like "Chapters".

The place has multiple floors symbolizing different "chapters"... from Old school (the arcade)... through the restaurant... to the Coffee bar (probably the most recent "chapter"....

That's our favourite too, for those reasons, but we are listening to all feedback.

To SavannahLion, we didn't find a building with lower rent. We decided to buy a building in a better location.

The game side is only a part of what we're doing, and while it's important to the model we have, it ain't the be all. I agree certainly that a couple of the names scream lapdancing whatever; we want feedback from a small community that have a possible interest of one area of what we're doing.

I asked for names in the first thread. We are open to ideas; the latest issue of Night has names such as Bacchus (good ol FF), JuJu and OoJam - It's what we're up against good or bad.

It would be great if those that voted none of the above would give their chioce, if they have one.

Oh, Savannah, we're paying £xxxxxxx for the building. Considerably more 'rent' I think you'll find - but the finance side is none of anyone's business, we need help with names. From whereever that may come. 

Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:07:43 pm
Ouch, I'm in a ---smurfy--- mood, please ignore previous :)

Sorry all.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 19, 2009, 03:09:12 pm
Chapters to me sounds like an early-80s restaurant and bar with open mic comedy every Saturday night.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:10:03 pm
For the most part, most bar names have been done to death in dozens of different ways in thousands of locations around the world. Might as well call the bar Drawfull (or whatever your Real World (c) name is) and be done with it.

Why not do a local (regional?) contest to see who can come up with the best name? Offer something like a gaming card good for a years worth of game play or something?

I didn't see this, thanks for the feedback. (//skulks)
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:14:06 pm
Chapters to me sounds like an early-80s restaurant and bar with open mic comedy every Saturday night.

Well, we are aiming at retro...
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 19, 2009, 03:19:42 pm
Yeah, but I didn't mean that in a good way.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:22:35 pm
Yeah, but the retro market is very big here. And everywhere if you buy into media hype. In any case, decor is a small part. A big part of what we call it is the fact we can adapt. I know that's contradictory to what you said and I take it on board, that's why the name is so difficult. Cheers Ginsu
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: shardian on February 19, 2009, 03:24:02 pm
Might as well call the bar Drawfull (or whatever your Real World (c) name is) and be done with it.


Actually, I think "Drawfull's" is a cool name. If it were in that list I would vote for it.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:27:08 pm
Might as well call the bar Drawfull (or whatever your Real World (c) name is) and be done with it.


Actually, I think "Drawfull's" is a cool name. If it were in that list I would vote for it.

Heh, but  it's spelt incorrectly! It's just a bastardisation of my name, if you say  it fast, drunk. I couldn't use my surname, for a few reasons, so xxxxxxx's doesn't work unfortunately.

Aitch, is the initial of my better half's name, but no one can spell that either - the rest of the planet say Haitch.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: RayB on February 19, 2009, 03:29:53 pm
Drawfull sounds like Awful. "Hey let's go hangout at that Awful restaurant". I dunno... hehehe

OK thinking 80's... how about:

Neon
Dink's
Big hair and ugly women
Restaurantris
Bartris
The 80's
OH GOD KILL ME NOW
Cosby Ain't Here

Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: SavannahLion on February 19, 2009, 03:30:39 pm
To SavannahLion, we didn't find a building with lower rent. We decided to buy a building in a better location.
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Oh, Savannah, we're paying £xxxxxxx for the building. Considerably more 'rent' I think you'll find - but the finance side is none of anyone's business, we need help with names. From whereever that may come. 

I was being facetious towards shardian. My apologies if they were taken in the wrong context.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:32:24 pm
To SavannahLion, we didn't find a building with lower rent. We decided to buy a building in a better location.
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Oh, Savannah, we're paying £xxxxxxx for the building. Considerably more 'rent' I think you'll find - but the finance side is none of anyone's business, we need help with names. From whereever that may come. 

I was being facetious towards shardian. My apologies if they were taken in the wrong context.

No apologies required, I'm tetchy today.

LOL @ RayB :D
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 19, 2009, 03:34:08 pm

Big hair

elizabeth shue was not ugly
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 19, 2009, 03:41:58 pm
Yeah, but the retro market is very big here. And everywhere if you buy into media hype. In any case, decor is a small part. A big part of what we call it is the fact we can adapt. I know that's contradictory to what you said and I take it on board, that's why the name is so difficult. Cheers Ginsu

Keep in mind I'm looking at this from an American viewpoint and the way those sort of restaurants were back then. Also, "Chapters" reminds me of "Brothers" for some strange reason, which was a TV series on Showtime about three brothers who ran a bar.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: SavannahLion on February 19, 2009, 03:49:39 pm
Chapters to me sounds like an early-80s restaurant and bar with open mic comedy every Saturday night.

Well, we are aiming at retro...

I know! How about Cafe 80's (http://bttf.wikia.com/wiki/Cafe_80%27s) complete with hanging monitors showing Max Headroom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(character))-like characters. You could even do the whole bar in pastel coloring. ;D

You can even source out snap bands (http://www.wristbands.co.uk/wristbands-snap-bands.htm) as a door giveaway or something. I don't know where you're going to get Hypercolors though.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 19, 2009, 03:52:17 pm
Cafe 80s wouldn't work because you have to play the games with your hands.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: SavannahLion on February 19, 2009, 05:08:26 pm
Cafe 80s wouldn't work because you have to play the games with your hands.

You could play with your Wii.  ;)

Oh wait. No, you'd still be using your hands.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Dartful Dodger on February 19, 2009, 08:50:16 pm
Might as well call the bar Drawfull (or whatever your Real World (c) name is) and be done with it.


Actually, I think "Drawfull's" is a cool name. If it were in that list I would vote for it.

To many syllables, try dropping the first two letters.

I don’t think any of  those names work for a high-quality menu.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Havok on February 19, 2009, 10:53:17 pm
How about the "Blue Oyster?"

 ;D
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: JONTHEBOMB on February 20, 2009, 12:39:52 am
Maybe call your business Levels.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 20, 2009, 07:10:54 am
Might as well call the bar Drawfull (or whatever your Real World (c) name is) and be done with it.


Actually, I think "Drawfull's" is a cool name. If it were in that list I would vote for it.

To many syllables, try dropping the first two letters.

I don’t think any of  those names work for a high-quality menu.

I'm agreeing with you I think.

How about the "Blue Oyster?"

 ;D

Haha

Maybe call your business Levels.

Thanks for the suggestion, this is incredibly difficult. :(
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: joeH on February 20, 2009, 12:54:45 pm
I remember about 20 years ago, a local mall arcade was named "Yesterdays".  I always thought that was a cool name.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: RayB on February 20, 2009, 01:36:32 pm
The Peach Pit
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: HaRuMaN on February 20, 2009, 02:09:39 pm
"Epic Fail"
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Malenko on February 20, 2009, 02:14:55 pm
Pixeleat

a play on the word pixelate and eat, cause its a restaurant.
What do I win?
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: saint on February 20, 2009, 06:59:46 pm
St. Elmo's
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Post by: Ummon on February 21, 2009, 07:43:06 pm
Chapters sounds like some cross of 'Cheers' and 'Friends'. Blech. But, given it's a UK place, maybe not?
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: castlesteve on February 21, 2009, 10:14:54 pm

I always said, if I was going to open a bar... it would be

"liquor box"


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Post by: wooowman93 on February 21, 2009, 11:04:41 pm
"The Arcade Zone"
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Post by: mytymaus007 on February 22, 2009, 01:22:11 am
i got it the CONGO BONGO Lounge  :cheers:
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: parag0n on February 23, 2009, 06:57:36 am
Dr. Awfull's

Its perfect
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Post by: surface tension on February 23, 2009, 07:08:09 am
It sounds like 'Hub' is the most popular, so maybe explore that avenue a liitle? The first one off the top of my head is 'Core'
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: FrizzleFried on February 23, 2009, 11:32:50 am
"Losing Propositions"
"Money Pit"
"Hell Froze Over"
"Loose Change"
"Mighta Worked In the 80's"
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Franco B on February 23, 2009, 11:37:04 am
Nothing like a bit of PMA eh Fritz?
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: u_rebelscum on February 24, 2009, 01:26:07 pm
Of the three I like the most, my thoughts:

Voodoo has been used a lot, and I know of a "Voodoo Lounge", that's a bar, restaurant, bowling alley, with a few video games (California), as well as a few straight bars named Voodoo.  Also, not a family name; more for the (rebelling) teen to 20's age group, trendy-like.

Hub, or "The Hub", is a geeky name, great for college students, but IMO doesn't call to (non-geeky) families, teens, or non-tech 20-30 year olds.  Does hint at the multiple activities feature of the business.  Okay for a cheap or middle range restaurant.

Chapters sounds the most "high end" IMO of all the choices.  More appealing toward the parents, and educated 20-30 year olds (but maybe not as much for the techies as Hub).  Implies a more classy restaurant than "Hub" would.  Like Hub, hints at the multiple activities, but sounds more cafe-ish & restaurant-ish, than bar or arcade.


Of course, this is the opinion of a mid 30 year guy from California, and trends have changed since I was a  teen & college student.  Also, probably some differents 1/3 way around the world. ;)  So get and use local opinion more than mine.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: drawfull on February 24, 2009, 02:27:26 pm
Thanks U rebelscum

As of Friday last, we decided on Chapters as it fits with the kind of place we want. I agree completely with you Urebel on that. Logo and branding work has begun, I might post some concepts.

Cheers
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: bboysnj on February 24, 2009, 02:32:40 pm
If you're going retro - can Disney sue you for calling it "Flynn's" ?  :dunno

Other thoughts:

Flashback
Icon
Brand the logo like a university or Greek frat and call it "C.P.U."
Level Up

Or steal one of the greatest storefront names I've come across in the states --- "The Bunghole" -- their motto is "I got it in the The Bunghole" lol...(incidentally, they're a liquor store -- yes yes, Bunghole Liquors -- the possiblities are endless......


Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: pinballwizard79 on February 24, 2009, 02:35:44 pm
LMAO @ Blue Oyster reference to Police Academy!
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: saint on February 24, 2009, 03:53:06 pm
Thanks U rebelscum

As of Friday last, we decided on Chapters as it fits with the kind of place we want. I agree completely with you Urebel on that. Logo and branding work has begun, I might post some concepts.

Cheers

May I suggest you're going about this wrong?  You're talking to a bunch of dedicated retro-geeks here. We're not a big enough group to keep you in business, nor are we a sufficient unbiased sampling. If you're really sinking money into this, you need to do real market research. Come up with several names, and go do some polling. For instance, "Chapters" to me says "bookstore."

When I was in college, one of my business classes was a small-business consulting thing. Small businesses applied to the college for help, and in the course of the semester the students (under the guidance of the business professor so that nothing went awry) would do market research, troubleshoot problems, determine advertising plans, etc for the business free of charge. Business would get a good foundation for success, students get experience.

Don't know if the local college near you has such a beast, but if not there still should be something that can be done. Your local chamber of commerce or whatever your equivalent is can probably help. If nothing else, hire one of those companies that has people in the mall ask survey questions, or find a place with a good mix of people and do it yourself over the course of several days or even a few weeks. Do it in the area you're thinking of setting up shop in, but don't be afraid to expand your research to nearby areas that are within reasonable driving distance to get to you.

If you don't have a business plan and solid homework/research behind you before you start, you're setting yourself up for failure even if the idea is a good one but is poorly implemented. 8 out of 10 startups fail I believe. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try, but you should do everything you can to be in the 20% category who succeed. Asking for opinions here is a good place for some creativity, but a lousy place to make a decision. You, your partners, your friends, your family, are also lousy places to make a decision - all too close to the issue. You need good, unbiased opinions from a significant sampling size of people who don't have any personal investment (emotionally or monetarily) if you succeed or fail.

Good luck!

--- saint
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Chazz on February 24, 2009, 06:56:17 pm
Ted: We should buy a bar.
Barney: Of course, we should buy a bar!
Ted: We should totally buy a bar.
Barney: We should totally buy a bar. Our bar would be awesome. And dude, dude, dude, dude... the name of our bar... Puzzles.  People will be, like, "Why is it called Puzzles?". That's the puzzle!
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: RayB on February 24, 2009, 07:09:04 pm
"Losing Propositions"
"Money Pit"
"Hell Froze Over"
"Loose Change"
"Mighta Worked In the 80's"
LOL   If it could work for "50's Diners" why couldn't an 80's theme work?

Great advice from Saint there. Don't neglect to do a trademark search.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: xtravbx on February 24, 2009, 11:53:05 pm
Coming from a 27 year old guy, who goes to a lot of shows, clubs, etc -

all those names are TERRIBLE. Sorry =/
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: pinballwizard79 on February 25, 2009, 03:45:45 pm
What about calling it "Lehman Brothers"?

I think that name is available.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: wooowman93 on February 25, 2009, 04:15:27 pm
they invasion
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: CathalDublin on February 25, 2009, 04:34:10 pm
We use to call the place down the road from us "The Slots"
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Ummon on February 25, 2009, 09:42:35 pm
Coming from a 27 year old guy, who goes to a lot of shows, clubs, etc -

all those names are TERRIBLE. Sorry =/

The frequenters of those places are a narrow age group, though.
Title: Re: Names for our new business...
Post by: Dartful Dodger on February 26, 2009, 01:49:08 pm
I saw a "Hot Rod Grill" yesterday and I thought of "Grill and Games" I just did a Google search and about 14,700 other people have already thought of it.

I didn't realize how hard it was to come up with a new name for this type of business and thinking of a name will probably be the easiest thing you'll have to do for this business.

Good luck.