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Title: Hear good/bad things about MoodLogic?
Post by: Frostillicus on June 25, 2003, 08:44:48 am
http://www.moodlogic.com/ (http://www.moodlogic.com/)

I'm sure someone here has paid for the service and could give me some pros/cons - I'm thinking about it but I've heard some real complaints about mislabeled songs.   The concept seems cool, though.  

There is a 10,000 song drawback when you register (you need to buy credits for more), and I know some of you have obscenely large song collections.  It would be really nice to set up instant mixes based on mood, though.  I'm getting sick of shuffling everything (who knows what's gonna play next?).  

Just lookin for input..thanks :)

Title: Re:Hear good/bad things about MoodLogic?
Post by: AlanS17 on June 25, 2003, 11:01:29 am
I'd never heard of it. If it works it's probably worth the money. I've got 1000's of songs I don't want to relabel.
Title: Re:Hear good/bad things about MoodLogic?
Post by: aj6500 on June 25, 2003, 07:17:23 pm
Tried it. It sucks big time.  It went through my entire collection to "fix" the tags and everything.  I ended up having to go back through each individual songs and rename/label/categorize every song on my hard drive. It mislabeled, put wrong artist and genre, crammed everything together and made it unusable.  I could not kill the program fast enough.  STAY AWAY!!!!!   It only works if you only run their programs and no other mp3 software.
Title: Re:Hear good/bad things about MoodLogic?
Post by: Frostillicus on June 25, 2003, 09:54:54 pm
Tried it. It sucks big time.  It went through my entire collection to "fix" the tags and everything.  I ended up having to go back through each individual songs and rename/label/categorize every song on my hard drive. It mislabeled, put wrong artist and genre, crammed everything together and made it unusable.  I could not kill the program fast enough.  STAY AWAY!!!!!   It only works if you only run their programs and no other mp3 software.
Oh man, I was afraid of that.  Deep down I know it probably sucks, but I want it succeed very much.  I don't relish having to re-name my mp3's if that thing screws it up.  

I did some more research from their forums and found some bad stuff:

Basically, it's a service that scans the WAV form and some other unique traits of each MP3 in your collection, and compares them to the signatures in their database.  If it is found (AKA 'activated'), then it re-tags it with a bunch of useful info like overall genre, major instruments, vocal type, male/female/group singer, tempo speed, overall mood and some very specific categories (classic soul R&B vs contemporary synthezer R&B, etc)

Unfortunately it relies on regular folks to submit songs using a little 5 step wizard, which earns you additional activation credits (if you don't feel like paying for them).  SO the result is some shmuck who submits willie nelson tunes as avril lavigne rave tunes.  AND it then could retag your info with the wrong stuff.  Hence the same problem as aj6500.  Oh well, maybe in a few years, but for now apparently the database isn't checked very often nor updated frequently.  Most people only got about 30% of their collections recognized.

YMMV  :P
Title: Re:Hear good/bad things about MoodLogic?
Post by: LockeN on June 26, 2003, 03:39:32 pm
While not fitting exactly the same niche as moodlogic (haven't used it) gjay (haven't used it much yet, just installed it the other day) is supposed to do some of the same things from the looks of it.  

It's for linux and it's supposed to analyze your music and then be able to generate nice sounding playlists.  It doesn't do any of the categorizing, relabeling/renaming stuff -- but if your ripping software does all that correctly, I don't see the need for software categorize/relabel/rename.

Here's the url:  http://gjay.sourceforge.net/
Title: Re:Hear good/bad things about MoodLogic?
Post by: AlanS17 on June 27, 2003, 10:55:49 am
Well your ripping software may label, but lots of people don't rip their own. They download from online. Lots of those files aren't labelled well and lots of them have "Ripped by BlahBlahBlah" in their ID3 tags and other junk like that.