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Title: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: jconstanza on December 04, 2008, 05:38:58 pm
Working on a Wells Gardner K7500 that has the top half of the screen darker than the bottom. Tried swapping U601 (TDA1771) and U701 (LA7851), same thing. Am I looking in the right places?
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Post by: grantspain on December 04, 2008, 05:44:24 pm
got a pic of the prob
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Post by: jconstanza on December 04, 2008, 05:53:52 pm
Here you go
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Post by: grantspain on December 04, 2008, 05:57:26 pm
whats your input source to this?
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: jconstanza on December 04, 2008, 06:01:28 pm
Well I have it on a wells pattern generator right now, but it came out of a Hydro Thunder
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Post by: grantspain on December 04, 2008, 06:20:11 pm
the generator is giving this a 15khz signal?
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Post by: SirPeale on December 04, 2008, 06:22:47 pm
That's a weird one. 

Just for giggles, check R101 and see if it's open.
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: grantspain on December 04, 2008, 06:37:42 pm
looks like a problem with the vertical sync or a frequency issue
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Post by: sarge on December 04, 2008, 09:02:14 pm
what happens when you adjust the vertical size? 
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Post by: Arm123 on December 05, 2008, 12:35:38 am
I had a similar problem with a K7000 that had half the screen darkened, but split vertically.  Never got around to looking at it again. Interested in hearing your solution.
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: jconstanza on December 05, 2008, 09:21:35 am
15khz not sure? I have it set to EGA on the generator. R101 is not open.  I use only my multimeter to troubleshoot. I do have an oscilliscope, but no clue on how to use it. Can I measure khz with my meter?
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: grantspain on December 05, 2008, 09:49:26 am
well if the generator is set to ega/24khz then the signal is fine
the vertical hold or sync is the only thing i have ever seen cause this

do you have an option for sync polarity on the generator?
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: SirPeale on December 05, 2008, 09:49:59 am
I had a similar problem with a K7000 that had half the screen darkened, but split vertically.  Never got around to looking at it again. Interested in hearing your solution.

Smoothing cap - 47uf, 160V @ C57.
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: jconstanza on December 05, 2008, 10:10:03 am
No, no option for that.
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: jconstanza on December 05, 2008, 10:17:39 am
C57?
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Post by: grantspain on December 05, 2008, 01:05:29 pm
and you have the same problem in the cab?
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Post by: jconstanza on December 05, 2008, 01:48:55 pm
Yes
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Post by: grantspain on December 05, 2008, 02:07:30 pm
well thats good(in a way) as it rules out frequency
have you followed the wg repair guide on this?
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Post by: jconstanza on December 05, 2008, 02:23:35 pm
Ehh, not completely. It's tough cause I don't have all the parts that they are pointing out
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Post by: SirPeale on December 05, 2008, 02:59:09 pm
C57?

That was a response to the guy who had the problem with his K7000.
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: grantspain on December 05, 2008, 03:07:32 pm
from wg guide
SCREEN BLACK ON ONE SIDE
 BLACK WIRE ON FLYBACK REVERSED
 C310, C812

i had a similar fault on a few polo monitor caused by a resistor on the g1 circuit.its equal on the k7500 is r545 150ohm

Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: jconstanza on December 10, 2008, 02:39:25 pm
Wow! I feel like an idiot. I got it like this from the customer. It had the wrong controller board.
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Post by: grantspain on December 10, 2008, 02:49:21 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Wells K7500 - top half is dark
Post by: qrz on December 12, 2008, 07:37:38 pm
Wow! I feel like an idiot. I got it like this from the customer. It had the wrong controller board.

so much "fun" when someone has been in 'em.

recently had a serv call on an RCA projo. the hv splitter was arcing ( AND in the wrong place - HUH ??)
seems another "shop" had replaced the red crt , and didn't put the block back where it belonged,
 misrouted ctl/spkrs lines and didn't reinstall a number of screws.  ::)
hauled the chassis back to shop to undo all the damage ....

qrz