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Arcade Collecting => Restorations & repair => Topic started by: 2600 on September 08, 2008, 08:09:21 pm

Title: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 08, 2008, 08:09:21 pm
Ok, time to start this project.

I got this empty cabinet in the spring and I finally got a chance to do a little cleaning.

Here are a few before shots of the inside after I vacuumed it out.

Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 08, 2008, 08:12:20 pm
After I took advice from Wade and took off the front and hosed it down then used some Blech White.  I sprayed some Polycrylic on it afterward to help with future cleanups.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 08, 2008, 08:26:06 pm
Is the machine going to become a Punch-Out, Super Punch-Out or both?
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 08, 2008, 08:32:31 pm
Well technically both since I'm finishing up the Double Punch-Out kit and will put the kit in here. I guess I should of changed the title a bit.  I have a marquee for both, side art will probably have the super stickers, but no ducking pull on the control panel.  Maybe I'll regret not having the ducking pull sticker later.

I'll also swap in my Arm Wrestling and Playchoice Board in for good measure.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 08, 2008, 09:25:10 pm
Well technically both since I'm finishing up the Double Punch-Out kit and will put the kit in here. I guess I should of changed the title a bit.  I have a marquee for both, side art will probably have the super stickers, but no ducking pull on the control panel.  Maybe I'll regret not having the ducking pull sticker later.

I've got one of the repro Ducking Pull stickers we did that I would consider a "factory second", due to the alignment of the carriage bolt holes being off enough to be a problem. The holes could be fixed with an exacto knife, and the carriage bolt heads would more than cover the amount that the holes are off by, so with the joystick installed, you couldn't tell the difference.

Considering the amount of help you provided in fixing the frustrating audio problem with my SPO boardset, I'll send you the sticker at no charge if you want it.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on September 08, 2008, 11:54:16 pm
Well technically both since I'm finishing up the Double Punch-Out kit and will put the kit in here.

Another Punch-Out!!   :applaud:

Are you going to be selling these kits?  Now that Mikes Arcade is working on the SPO joystick, I'd love to be able to play both in my cab.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 09, 2008, 05:52:06 am
I've got one of the repro Ducking Pull stickers we did that I would consider a "factory second", due to the alignment of the carriage bolt holes being off enough to be a problem. The holes could be fixed with an exacto knife, and the carriage bolt heads would more than cover the amount that the holes are off by, so with the joystick installed, you couldn't tell the difference.

Considering the amount of help you provided in fixing the frustrating audio problem with my SPO boardset, I'll send you the sticker at no charge if you want it.

Maximrecoil, I think I'm going to take you up on that offer.  I'll send you a PM later.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 09, 2008, 05:55:12 am
Another Punch-Out!!   :applaud:

Are you going to be selling these kits?  Now that Mikes Arcade is working on the SPO joystick, I'd love to be able to play both in my cab.


I will.  I talked about it a little on KLOV.  I don't think it will be that popular though, because it's a little pricey.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: jow on September 09, 2008, 10:21:06 am

I will.  I talked about it a little on KLOV.  I don't think it will be that popular though, because it's a little pricey.

Did we come up with a price?  ;D
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 09, 2008, 10:30:04 am

I will.  I talked about it a little on KLOV.  I don't think it will be that popular though, because it's a little pricey.

Did we come up with a price?  ;D

I'm guesstimating $175.   I don't want to go higher then that, but trying to go lower.  I may offer kits of parts at a cheaper price.  I'm also looking at other ways or offering options that would make it cheaper.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on September 16, 2008, 05:02:28 pm
Any progress?
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 17, 2008, 08:28:35 am
On the Cab or the kit?

My restore process is going to be a little bit slower then yours.  I just got back from paternity leave and had a big project to get out the door at work.  Luckily that part is done now.  Hope to start to put a few things back in the cab this weekend.

For the kit, I'm finishing up the VHDL right now and then I'll finish laying out the rest of the PCB's. 
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on September 17, 2008, 11:41:04 am
On the Cab or the kit?

The cab.  (but I'm interested in the kit as well)
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: jow on September 19, 2008, 10:13:24 am

I will.  I talked about it a little on KLOV.  I don't think it will be that popular though, because it's a little pricey.

Did we come up with a price?  ;D

I'm guesstimating $175.   I don't want to go higher then that, but trying to go lower.  I may offer kits of parts at a cheaper price.  I'm also looking at other ways or offering options that would make it cheaper.

What will be involved with the kit?  Will it be solder-less?  Also, if people w/ PO's get this, how will we make the ducking in SPO work?
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 19, 2008, 11:38:00 am
The kit will be solder-less.  It will mainly involve taking out EPROMs and putting a board down in it's place.

As for the duck, Mike's arcade should be offering a SPO repro joystick soon.  Or you can mount another button for duck.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on September 19, 2008, 01:44:34 pm
As for the duck, Mike's arcade should be offering a SPO repro joystick soon.  Or you can mount another button for duck.

Yeah, the key to success for this kit is for Mike to offer this joystick.  Last I heard he was planning on doing it, but I haven't heard a time frame for it.  I'd be in for a kit, but only if I could get the joystick.  I don't want to add a button on the control panel.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 19, 2008, 01:49:09 pm
I'm not sure if the kit will be that successful which is fine by me.  I'm mainly doing it for me anyways.  If I do sell any, I imagine it will only be a handful.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: jow on September 19, 2008, 02:26:10 pm
You will be selling atleast one :)
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on September 19, 2008, 02:47:18 pm
You will be selling atleast one :)

Two!  (pending the joystick)
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 19, 2008, 04:01:31 pm
Thanks guys.  I'll make sure to let you know when it's done.

Now to get back to my cabinet restoration.  I think I'm going to try to clean some parts up and put them back in the cab.  Then I want to tackle the prep and paint on the inner edges so I can put the cab back together.  Might try rolling that part, the top and the back door.  Speaking of I got a back door cut at lowes.  Also, I want to rebuild the base.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on September 22, 2008, 11:21:25 am
Good news!  Joysticks (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=CHSU-14-11) are available
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: jow on September 22, 2008, 02:20:38 pm
Not sure why I didnt, but I didnt expect a $100 joystick.

Oh well.  The wallet loves this hobby, heh.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on September 22, 2008, 05:44:51 pm
Not sure why I didnt, but I didnt expect a $100 joystick.

Oh well.  The wallet loves this hobby, heh.

Yeah, it's going to make for an expensive upgrade to add the SPO kit.  I was expecting a lower price point as well on the joystick, but I guess when you are the only option you can set your price.

Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: TheShanMan on September 22, 2008, 05:48:16 pm
Not just that it's the only option, but the only option on a low volume product. It's gotta be hard to make decent money on a reproduction joystick that applies to a single game.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on September 22, 2008, 08:03:50 pm
Not just that it's the only option, but the only option on a low volume product. It's gotta be hard to make decent money on a reproduction joystick that applies to a single game.

True that.  Plus the Reproduction Nintendo 4-way is $54, so you have to figure the Super Punch-Out one is going to be a bit more expensive then that.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 26, 2008, 11:51:11 am
Not just that it's the only option, but the only option on a low volume product. It's gotta be hard to make decent money on a reproduction joystick that applies to a single game.
Two games technically (Arm Wrestling and SPO), but AW is even less common than SPO, and uses a 2-way restrictor rather than a 4-way. This is the reason I thought we'd never see a reproduction SPO joystick.

I got one from Mike in the mail yesterday. I haven't had a chance to try it out in the SPO machine yet but everything seems to be in order. No complaints with the quality. It feels just like an original Nintendo joystick.

I think Mike is planning to offer it as a conversion kit; so if you already have a Nintendo joystick kicking around, that would be a cheaper option.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: Spyridon on April 08, 2009, 10:04:30 am
Not sure why I didnt, but I didnt expect a $100 joystick.

Oh well.  The wallet loves this hobby, heh.

Just noticed that mikesarcade now has a conversion kit (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=CHSU-14-11-KIT) for only $35 to convert your Punch-Out!! joystick to Super Punch-Out!!.



Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: 2600 on April 08, 2009, 04:15:31 pm
Yeah, I made a comment on that somewhere.  I have a SPO stick, but went ahead and picked that up a few months ago.

I need to get back to this project.
Title: Re: 2600's Punch-Out Restoration
Post by: stealthie on April 08, 2009, 07:28:53 pm
I'm interested in when this kit will be available.