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Title: 2player vs 4player
Post by: rlehm on July 12, 2008, 07:42:59 pm
I originally went with a 4player control panel. I am now thinking of switching to a 2player control panel. I mean, what game requires a 7 button player 4? I bought it at the time because i thought of having people over and playing with a few people at once. I realized later that it's just wasted space. Has anyone found a use for a 4player controller that I have over looked?

btw, here is my control panel.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/lemoncade/DSC02912.jpg)
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Swatwolf on July 12, 2008, 07:44:25 pm
Landing Strip???
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: rlehm on July 12, 2008, 07:45:14 pm
Landing Strip???

hell, a plane. damn thing has wings. Yeah man, wtf was i thinking.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Turnarcades on July 12, 2008, 07:52:11 pm
If multi-player gaming is still your thing, think about revising the layout for players 3 and 4, at most they only need 4 really. I think many american cabs are way too big anyway; even the two player ones. You could easily revise the design to make that panel smaller for general 2-player use, and still retain 4-player functionality when needed by cutting down the number of buttons.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: rlehm on July 12, 2008, 08:05:22 pm
If multi-player gaming is still your thing, think about revising the layout for players 3 and 4, at most they only need 4 really. I think many american cabs are way too big anyway; even the two player ones. You could easily revise the design to make that panel smaller for general 2-player use, and still retain 4-player functionality when needed by cutting down the number of buttons.

Yes, I even considered that, but I would rather have my control panle uner 5 feet wide :)
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: pinballwizard79 on July 12, 2008, 08:20:51 pm
How many games actually require a button #7?

My reason for asking: I am about to sell my current arcade for a UAII kit & a nice control panel from Arcadesrfun.

BTW, the machine looks pretty cool the way it is but I can understand wanting something with a smaller footprint.



Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Jdurg on July 12, 2008, 08:39:28 pm
The only reason I could think of having four joysticks would be to play two player Smash TV, but for that you don't need the multiple buttons.  I'd have to dig through MAWS, but I also can't think of any 4-player games where players 3 and 4 need more than 4 buttons.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Bleagh on July 13, 2008, 01:56:30 pm
If you wanted to play the pc version of guilty gear isuka in 4 player mode you would need at least 5 or 6 buttons for all 4 players.  Maybe you could use 6 buttons for all four players if you played any 4 player console emulators.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: AwesomeAlbert on July 13, 2008, 02:37:11 pm
I think some people have the extra buttons on player 3-4 for emulators and pc games but not mame.

You have an arcade, a kegerator and speed cube!!
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Malenko on July 13, 2008, 02:58:10 pm
seems like a waste of awesome artwork :p

MAME...you dont need more the 4 buttons for players 3 and 4, but if you play SNES,PSX,etc emulators then yeah you need em. 2 player panel would be much smaller but I will say this..... you have the best looking big control panel Ive seen it doesnt seem too big or overdone and you dont have extra flight sticks, multiple trackballs, multiple spinners,etc
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: lettuce on July 13, 2008, 04:42:24 pm
I did the same with my CP, went for a 4 player setup, but players 3&4 only had 4 buttons each, as there is only 2 roms that i cant think of that even use 4 buttons for player 3&4 and thats the 2 dungeon & dragons games, every other games only uses 2 buttons for 3&4 players. I can count on one hand the amount of times ive actually had 4 people playing at once on my CP, so it was really a waste of time and money going for a 4 player setup. If i was you id make another CP for just 2 players. Nice cab by the way  :applaud:
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Turnarcades on July 13, 2008, 05:45:24 pm

Yes, I even considered that, but I would rather have my control panle uner 5 feet wide :)

This machine we did had a panel at just 36" wide, and in all fairness with a bit of thought we could go about 6" narrower and an inch or two shallower front to back.

I did some checking by the way for those wondering and the only multi-player games worth playing (even on other consoles) rarely needed more than 4. For example, SNES Bomberman only needs 4.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Ummon on July 13, 2008, 07:13:29 pm
rlehm: why are you really wanting to change it? It's perhaps a foot wider than a 2P panel, but so? Definitely playing SmashTV with another would be cool.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: mhermann on July 13, 2008, 10:59:44 pm
Funny as I have a different experience as I regret NOT making mine a four player panel. My arcade gets used the most when people are over and NBA Jam and XMen are great 4 player games that I hate breaking out the wireless xbox controllers to play. The people who get stuck with those are always a bit disappointed.

So my suggestion: Great cab, keep it the way it is.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: Flake on July 14, 2008, 09:49:58 am
Yea dude I would leave it alone.  Its already done anyway, your going to go through alot of trouble to save a foot.  It looks more impressive as a 4player panel anyway even if it doesnt get used that often.  Plus your illuminated buttons look cool when they are all lit up (I saw pictures of your old project thread). 

At one point I really wanted your artwork and tried my best to find a high res copy of it but couldnt so I went with the old lightning theme.

What happened the light gun holders?

Anyway, I love your cab.
Title: Re: 2player vs 4player
Post by: mrserv0n on July 14, 2008, 01:13:42 pm
While you only need 4 buttons on players 3 and 4, Overall I think you cabinet looks amazing and you did an awesome job on it, I wouldnt change it if I were you.
The week after you convert it to 2 players youll find yourself in a situation with 4 people