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Title: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: vetteguy112233 on June 24, 2008, 08:51:20 pm
I don't want to keep pressing the "5" key on the keyboard to "add coins", is there a way to disable this feature?
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Dizzle on June 24, 2008, 09:53:14 pm
Under settings, there's a place you can set "free play" to on.  Is that what you had in mind?
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: vetteguy112233 on June 24, 2008, 10:18:15 pm
Yes, but I can't find that setting anywhere. Could someone please point me to it?
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: TheShanMan on June 24, 2008, 10:57:07 pm
I believe only certain games support free play - I don't think it's a feature of mame. I don't think there's a direct way to avoid coin input. However, you could try mapping both coin 1 and start 1 to the "1" key. Maybe that would work.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: amiga500 on June 24, 2008, 10:57:48 pm
Press F2 into the game to access "Service Mode", you'll find an option called 'Coins configuration or 'System', select 'Free Play'. Every game is different so not all games are configured the same way. Also I found a lot of games that not have the 'free play' option.

If you press TAB on the game you'll access the MAME menu and you'll see a 'Dip Switches' option, you can set Free Play from here too, If the game allows it.

cheers :cheers:
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Blanka on June 25, 2008, 01:44:38 am
I'll vote for an auto-quarter option in Mame! I play 1944 a lot, and than you just don't want to insert quarters everytime you crash.
Even better: cross-mame quarter management. If you press 5 30 times, you will have 30 quarters for all your games. If you play Pac-Man, Pac-Man will still show 9 quarters, but the ammount does not lower on the first 21 game-starts. If you insert 30 quarters and you play 5 instances of Pac-Man and 17 on 1944 and 4 on arkanoid, you still have 4 quarters if you start Joust. Add OV-Chipcard support to it as well, and people can hack these Dutch train-passes to gain unlimited Maming for 0€.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: nipsmg on June 25, 2008, 08:36:59 am
This type of thing (cross quarter management) I think would encourage the use of mame in illegal money making situations.

I'm going to leave out the whole "MAME is a documentation project, playing is a bonus" rhetoric here but I don't picture these features being added any time soon, if ever.


You can play nearly every arcade game ever made at home for free..... JUST PUSH THE DAMN COIN BUTTON!  ;D   ;)
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Minwah on June 25, 2008, 09:54:12 am
You can play nearly every arcade game ever made at home for free..... JUST PUSH THE DAMN COIN BUTTON!  ;D   ;)

I must admit I don't get it. It's not particularly hard to press a key.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Jdurg on June 25, 2008, 10:42:45 am
Not to mention that it really would make no sense with regards to functionality either.  People always seem to forget that MAME is not one emulator with every game linked to each other.  It's really a big compilation of thousands of emulators, one for each game.  When you run a game, it is as if you are plugging the cabinet for that game in and turning it on.  When you exit the emulation, you turn off the cab and unplug it. 

It would introduce a TON of overhead to try and get the credits to move from one to the other.  The good thing about MAME is that it is open source.  If you want to code it yourself to do just that thing, there is absolutely NOTHING stopping you.  You'll just have to do it each and every time you update MAME.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on June 25, 2008, 12:34:40 pm
I'll vote for an auto-quarter option in Mame! I play 1944 a lot, and than you just don't want to insert quarters everytime you crash.

You can't setup a shifted credit button? I have a shifted credit, just in case I don't want to put coins in.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: u_rebelscum on June 25, 2008, 07:25:06 pm
I don't want to keep pressing the "5" key on the keyboard to "add coins"

Start a game, press tab, select "Input (general)", select "Other", and remap (http://mamedev.org/devwiki/index.php/FAQ:Controls#How_do_I_configure_the_keys.3F) coin 1 to a button on your control panel (or gamepad, or whatever you're using).  Then you don't need to use your keyboard.

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is there a way to disable this feature?

"Disable" how?

Change the default buttons from the "5" key to something else?  Yes. (see above)
Disable emulation of the original arcade game's game play?  No.  (mame is about emulates as much as possible as close as possible)

Use the original game's freeplay (if it had it)?  Already does.
Add freeplay to game's that didn't have freeplay?  No.  (that involves either hacking the original game, or disabling emulation mentioned earlier.)


And if you don't have a enough buttons on your CP/gamepad/controller, just map a button combo.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Blanka on June 26, 2008, 01:34:11 am
Start a game, press tab, select "Input (general)", select "Other", and remap (http://mamedev.org/devwiki/index.php/FAQ:Controls#How_do_I_configure_the_keys.3F) coin 1 to a button on your control panel (or gamepad, or whatever you're using).  Then you don't need to use your keyboard.
The 5 button was figuratively speaking. I already have it as pushbutton on the CP. But you have to move your hands up while gaming. Maybe I should connect it to the BOMB button in 1944. 1 credit everytime I unleash a bomb. After 4 bombs I die anyway, so I need new credit. That way the credits add not too much noise to the gameplay. Imagine using the fire-button as coin button as well :).
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: ratsflif on June 26, 2008, 06:34:55 am
I like having to insert the coin each time, it reminds me of how much money it would have cost me back in the day playing on the real machine.  I have a 4 player mame cab with a coin door and I added a button above each coin slot that inserts a coin so I have to reach down and hit it each time.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Space Fractal on June 26, 2008, 08:25:00 am
Credits is the charm when playing arcade games.

If you dosent have a credits coin. You can as others say, just map the coin button it to PL1 start as well, so the same button act like insert coin and start the game as well....
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on June 26, 2008, 08:30:35 am
Credits is the charm when playing arcade games.

If you dosent have a credits coin. You can as others say, just map the coin button it to PL1 start as well, so the same button act like insert coin and start the game as well....

I've heard this can create problems with some games, though.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: ahofle on June 26, 2008, 11:44:14 am
I don't want to keep pressing the "5" key on the keyboard to "add coins"

 :laugh2:  Someone needs to make that their sig or something.
Sometimes I wonder how the mamedevs keep from imploding.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on June 26, 2008, 11:47:42 am
I don't want to keep pressing the "5" key on the keyboard to "add coins"

 :laugh2:  Someone needs to make that their sig or something.
Sometimes I wonder how the mamedevs keep from imploding.

Some people feel so "entitled" to these games that spending even virtual coins bothers them.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Spaz Monkey on June 26, 2008, 11:57:34 am
Half the fun was saying, "Oh @#$%, I only have one quarter left", searching trough your pockets and saying "@$#%!!!  I'm out of quarters, lemme borrow one".  I was playing a D&D game and decided to fight a Red Dragon.  $5 later, I won.
Title: Re: MAMEUI32 - how to disable coin option? Keep having to press 5 on keyboard.
Post by: Ginsu Victim on June 26, 2008, 12:05:25 pm
My wife and I play beat 'em ups together all the time, and I always empty the coin bucket first. When we beat the game, we count up how much we spent.

Shocking at times.

Let's not even get into how much we've put into Metal Slug games.