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Title: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Jox43w on May 25, 2008, 06:31:56 pm
ok im not saying all chd games are wothless but im not intrested in the newer 3d games but theres games like killer instint 1 and 2 and thrid strike chd games that awsome im currently downloading a complete chd list which adds up to 60gb! iv disabled games like blitz gaunlet legends but theres till loads of smal size chd games sub 150mb i dont want to miss out on any decent 2d style games iv only dowloaded ki 1 n 2 and thrid strike is there any others you  would recomend me getting that will run on a 2.4ghz core2duo?

thannks
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on May 25, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
Red Earth is worthwhile.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Jox43w on May 25, 2008, 06:46:14 pm
Red Earth is worthwhile.

woah! just checked out a vid of this game on youtube, game looks crazy! thanks got that on the download.

anyone recomend anyothers.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on May 25, 2008, 06:56:32 pm
I only have area 51, killer instinct 1 & 2, SFIII, and Red Earth. There's no other CHDs I care about. (Some I would care about, but they run like ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---)
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: nuka1195 on May 25, 2008, 07:10:46 pm
simpsons bowling
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: BASS! on May 25, 2008, 07:59:38 pm
If you have a 4.2ghz core 2 e8400 then blitz and gauntlet work awesome.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: boogieman on May 25, 2008, 10:01:31 pm
What system specs are we looking at to be able to play red earth?  ???
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Dizzle on May 26, 2008, 12:26:10 am
What version of MAME did SFIII become playable?
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Doctor Ugs on May 26, 2008, 12:34:24 pm
I looked up CHD on the wiki to no avail. can someone briefly explain what makes a game a CHD game please?
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Malenko on May 26, 2008, 12:47:08 pm
I looked up CHD on the wiki to no avail. can someone briefly explain what makes a game a CHD game please?

CHD = hard drive image

its like a rom, but the arcade games had an actual hard drive and the CHD is just the data from that drive. I believe in the case of SF3 its an image of the CD but the same premise applies
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: my58vw on May 26, 2008, 02:05:39 pm
Well if you like music games, the beatmania series would be worth looking into
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Ummon on May 26, 2008, 10:15:50 pm
I looked up CHD on the wiki to no avail. can someone briefly explain what makes a game a CHD game please?

Ha, probly a rare instance of someone with the right intent looking in the wrong place. In any case, anything actual game-wise you want to look in MAWS. Or google it.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Zebidee on May 27, 2008, 07:38:22 am
I looked up CHD on the wiki to no avail. can someone briefly explain what makes a game a CHD game please?
CHD = hard drive image

CHD originally used to mean "Compressed Hard Drive", but in more years the definition has been broadened to "Compressed Hunks of Data"

An arcade operator I was talking to a little while ago about my arcade cabs was interested in the possibility of using a PC running Mame to revitalise his Killer Instinct machines, as the hard drives commonly failed and were virtually unrepairable.  Still a popular game, apparently.  Seems like a legit application of Mame, at least on the face of it.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: massive88 on May 27, 2008, 08:08:24 am
What version of MAME did SFIII become playable?

Somewhere around 0.117 or so...  I know they are in 0.117, dont know how much earlier then that it got, not much I think.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: ahofle on May 27, 2008, 10:56:21 am
An arcade operator I was talking to a little while ago about my arcade cabs was interested in the possibility of using a PC running Mame to revitalise his Killer Instinct machines, as the hard drives commonly failed and were virtually unrepairable.  Still a popular game, apparently.  Seems like a legit application of Mame, at least on the face of it.

You can also use chdman.exe to rebuild an HD from an image if he really has a KI with only a bad disk.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Jdurg on May 27, 2008, 01:40:12 pm
An arcade operator I was talking to a little while ago about my arcade cabs was interested in the possibility of using a PC running Mame to revitalise his Killer Instinct machines, as the hard drives commonly failed and were virtually unrepairable.  Still a popular game, apparently.  Seems like a legit application of Mame, at least on the face of it.

You can also use chdman.exe to rebuild an HD from an image if he really has a KI with only a bad disk.

Correct.  The Legit use of MAME is to restore the HD image from the CHD in MAME.  Actually using MAME itself instead of the board isn't really a legit use.  Besides, what would then be stopping the arcade operator from loading on other ROMs and making a profit from MAME?
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: nuka1195 on May 27, 2008, 02:13:37 pm
any tips on getting red earth to run?

do you wait for the rewrite, mine seemed to freeze at 36%

i have mame .125u1
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on May 27, 2008, 02:17:11 pm
Dunno. Mine didn't freeze. (When I tested it in .124; haven't tried it in .125))
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: nuka1195 on May 27, 2008, 02:38:26 pm
did yours run thru the lengthy rewrite?
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Ginsu Victim on May 27, 2008, 02:45:30 pm
yep. I just left it and went and made a sandwich.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: nuka1195 on May 27, 2008, 02:51:27 pm
thanks
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: TheShanMan on May 27, 2008, 03:31:40 pm
Mine took forever last night too (probably 30 minutes!). My 6 year old really wanted to try it, and when I saw initially how slow it was going to take I said "why don't we do this later when we're not waiting to play". He not only insisted on doing it then, he wanted to keep watching the progress! I think he eventually walked off though.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: nuka1195 on May 27, 2008, 08:47:54 pm
i did not time the first 25%, but the last 75% took 80 minutes. but it runs, thanks. :)
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Zebidee on May 27, 2008, 09:16:06 pm
An arcade operator I was talking to a little while ago about my arcade cabs was interested in the possibility of using a PC running Mame to revitalise his Killer Instinct machines, as the hard drives commonly failed and were virtually unrepairable.  Still a popular game, apparently.  Seems like a legit application of Mame, at least on the face of it.

You can also use chdman.exe to rebuild an HD from an image if he really has a KI with only a bad disk.

Correct.  The Legit use of MAME is to restore the HD image from the CHD in MAME.  Actually using MAME itself instead of the board isn't really a legit use.  Besides, what would then be stopping the arcade operator from loading on other ROMs and making a profit from MAME?

Yeah, I agree with all of that.  The same operator has also asked me 'how much?' for one of my arcade cabs, at which point I reminded him of the legalities.

I didn't realise that you could use chdman.exe like that before - so I might look into re-creating a HD for KI boards for this operator in the future.  Arcade operators tend to think in the 'electro-mechanical' world rather than the 'computers & micro-electronics' world.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Paladin on May 27, 2008, 09:30:09 pm
Here's a website that tells you how to use a compact flash card instead of a hard drive for Killer Instinct I and II.  No moving parts, less power and heat:
http://www.revisionx.com/kiproject/cf.html (http://www.revisionx.com/kiproject/cf.html)

I've also heard it works for Area 51.  I have a Gauntlet Legends, but I'm still building the cabinet from scratch.  When it's built and verified to be working with the hard drive I'm going to try the same trick.
Title: Re: worthwhile chd games?
Post by: Zebidee on May 28, 2008, 12:01:59 pm
Thanx heaps - good food for thought......