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Main => Consoles => Topic started by: Demon-Seed on May 03, 2008, 11:14:52 am
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Hello
Well since my wife has said a new cabinet is not allowed she has permitted me :) to buy consoles etc... I can make wireless arcade sticks or compact ones...anyways my buddy is bugging me to get a ps3...he loves the online play and says its free.......however 360 is outselling ps3.....(although ps3 sales are moving up) and you can play backups. That is important to me as well, also would like to play emulators etc.....I have not heard either system being able to play emulators yet...also I do not know much about ps3 scene..anyone advise where they are at? also what system do you think? I was told at a store that the ps3 is currently only using 50% of its cpu capabilities....anyways any advice.. links etc would be much appreciated.
thx
JIM
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If you want to play emulators, get a modded Xbox and put that in a cab...
IMHO, there's no good reason to put a 360 or a PS3 in an arcade cabinet.
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You can't play emulators and homebrew on a 360 -- you can only play "backups." Playing on live with a modded system is an iffy proposition though, and may get you banned.
The PS3 "scene" is pretty much nonexistent. No hacks, no mods, no backups, no homebrew. You can install linux on a PS3, but it doesn't give you any nice features games-wise, just lets you dual boot between PS3 and a linux box.
I agree with Haruman, if you want to play emulators, get a modded Xbox 1. If you want to play online with real games, get 360. Live is FAR superior to the PS3 online system, and you can find it on sale for $30-40 for a year, and it's worth every penny.
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However, Playstation 3 does seem to have potential online. For one thing, it's free. And second, there's Playstation Home, which we'll see around the end of the year, if I'm not mistaken. Playstation Home is as-yet unproven, and may turn out to be a flop. But it looks like it could turn out to be really really cool. We shall see, I suppose. Of course, if Playstation Home turns out to be a success, expect Xbox Live to become free-of-charge as well. God bless market forces.
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Hey
Thanks for the input, just to clarify, I will not be putting the console into a cabinet.. my wife doesn't want a cabinet.. but I Can get console. I was hoping that someone on here may make wireless arcade sticks for consoles.. for mame purposes, BUT I also want to play the newer games too that a ps3 or xbox360 would have. The topic should be xbox360 not xbox.. my bad......
Not sure what this ps3 home thing is? also any chance of ps3 playing backups?? Sorry I have been out of the loop L)]
thx
Jim
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PS Home is basically a fake sims/second life wanna be thing; I dont really get it, its kinda like how you can edit your locker room in smackdown versus raw 07; its a "feature" but its lame :)
I cant diss it too hard since its not out; but then again I dont plan on owning a PS3
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The 360 and PS3 are not good for emulation or backups. If Microsoft figures out you have a modded 360 your box will be banned from online.
As for which system to get is your preference. If your friends have a ps3 you might as well go that route. I have both and I give the edge to the 360. They both have their pros and cons but you can't beat xbox's multilayer, not even on the PC. The PS3s multiplayer is like PS multiplayer 7 years ago, it's old and on some games it is broken.
As it has been said, if you want to mame on your tv get the original xbox. You can get it used for cheap. You can soft mod it so no hardware changes.
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Hey
For mame etc I was thinking of a pc..with emulators. Only thing is can I get a wireless arcade stick? I do have a wii modded so I can play all consoles.. but mame... no mame yet for it....
As for xbox vs ps3 i stil dont know which one.. I like being able to play backups......
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Hey
For mame etc I was thinking of a pc..with emulators. Only thing is can I get a wireless arcade stick?
Yes... basically, you can hack a wireless 360 controller to arcade controls, and use the dongle that M$ sells.
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If copying games is your only real goal, then your choice is made for you. You go get a 360, mod it, and then don't use Live often or prepare to be banned at some point and lose online capability.
The PS3 may very well be cracked one day and able to burn games, but it hasn't happened yet, and it doesn't appear that its happening in the near future.
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PS3 uses blueray discs, so the cost of blank blueray disks makes backups a little rediculous...Im sure not all games will need that much space to copy and you could just use a DVD but the good games will take up more space then what a 8gig DVD can hold..
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PS3 uses blueray discs, so the cost of blank blueray disks makes backups a little rediculous...Im sure not all games will need that much space to copy and you could just use a DVD but the good games will take up more space then what a 8gig DVD can hold..
everyone is hoping for "rip games on hard drive" kinda thing like the original xbox. personally I dont really care..I dont even play anymore and if its a good game then I will just buy it.
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For mame etc I was thinking of a pc..with emulators. Only thing is can I get a wireless arcade stick? I do have a wii modded so I can play all consoles.. but mame... no mame yet for it....
As for xbox vs ps3 i stil dont know which one.. I like being able to play backups......
they have wireless controllers for regular xbox. logitech one is the best. id still recommend wired..dont have to deal with batteries and stuff.
modded xbox plays all cps1,cps2,neogeo full speed. mame runs good too but you have about 1000 unique games(basically all 2d games run fine).
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I own both consoles I would say they are basically the same. Xbox has a big edge with multiplayer games. PSN cannot compete (at least at this point in time) with Live. Xbox also has achievements although I hear that PS3 will have somthing similar when home is released.
The only thing that bothers me about the 360 is reliability. I am currently on my third and who knows how long this one will last. Other two suffered the dreaded RROD. :banghead: I have only had my third for a week now and seems to be ok. When the second one went it prompted me to buy a ps3. Not quite sure of the reliability yet so who knows. :dunno
But if your freinds have a ps3 then that would probably make the choice for me.
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If you do get a backwards compatable PS3 there are a LOT of arcade compilations for PS2 that you could run. (Or you could get a PS2 instead).
Off the top of my head...
Namco Museum: 50th Anniversary Arcade Collection
Atari Anthology
Midway Arcade Treasures 1, 2 and 3
SNK Arcade Classics Volume 1
Metal Slug Anthology
Taito Legends 1 and 2
Some good classic stuff in there. I most most of the 'portable' versions of these compilations for my PlayStation portable. But an Xbox for emulation works too. :) Additionally, the PS2 is home of MANY arcade ports of Namco System 246 games and other stuff. Soul Calibur for example. :)
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Hey
Ah is it possible to have a ps3 wireless arcade stick? Also I thought I read that there was some doing a swap trick? Is there any websites that talk about hacking ps3 and open source stuff?
I have heard many are having problems with 360.....red rings..... that makes me nervous. Also I am thinking that backups may not be all that important tome, as I find if I have too many games I dont play them....
as for xbox 1 and mame.. I had a modded one before and found that mame on it was terrible... took for ever for games like MK2 to load up and when then did they did not run well. Maybe it was something I did?
thanks
JIM
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I have heard many are having problems with 360.....red rings..... that makes me nervous. Also I am thinking that backups may not be all that important tome, as I find if I have too many games I dont play them....
If you get a new system you should't have a problem. New 360s are quiet and run cooler.
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I have heard many are having problems with 360.....red rings..... that makes me nervous. Also I am thinking that backups may not be all that important tome, as I find if I have too many games I dont play them....
If you get a new system you should't have a problem. New 360s are quiet and run cooler.
The new chipset and revision that is actually meant to "fix" the problems will not be out until around July though, so you may want to wait if that is an option and you're concerned about the 360's reliability. Who knows if it actually fixes everything, but the 'net is saying it does. SirP is right though, newer systems are less prone to problems, but this new versions is even better in theory.
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I think I may have to get a PS3 (80 gig version) when MGS4 comes out...
Already have an Xbox 360
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damn so many different opinions out there..makes it difficult to decide
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damn so many different opinions out there..makes it difficult to decide
There always is with consoles -- just be glad there aren't many total fanboys for one or the other here. Then you'd be even more confused =)
I own both systems and if I had to give one up, I'd keep my 360. I really like my PS3, love the BluRay functionality of it, and it has a number of games that I really like that I can't play on 360. That said though, I think the 360 is just a better all around gaming system. More games I like personally (or they're multiplatform with no advantages on the PS3) and LIVE is just awesome. If you plan to go online at all, like I said -- Live is the way to do it.
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The new chipset and revision that is actually meant to "fix" the problems will not be out until around July though, so you may want to wait if that is an option and you're concerned about the 360's reliability. Who knows if it actually fixes everything, but the 'net is saying it does. SirP is right though, newer systems are less prone to problems, but this new versions is even better in theory.
The falcon chipset was for this, the 60mm one. That was out early last fall. From folks I know that have just ought a new elite they say it runs cool and quiet.
damn so many different opinions out there..makes it difficult to decide
Soon I will have an article up on 2old2play.com comparing the two systems.
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I wasn't talking about Falcon, I was talking about Jasper. That's supposed to be out July/August.
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I wasn't talking about Falcon, I was talking about Jasper. That's supposed to be out July/August.
I read his comment as the one they already released fixed the RROD problems, so you don't have to wait for the new one to get released.
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Would a new chipset still be moddable?
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Would a new chipset still be moddable?
depends on which drive you get.
all benq drives manufactured before april 2008 are moddable. very new once have some kind of lock/protection(according to xboxscene). and hitachi 79 version couldnt be modded with software. you have to physically desolder the rom chip and modify it with a programmer(this is no joke..I dont even do it for people)
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I wasn't talking about Falcon, I was talking about Jasper. That's supposed to be out July/August.
I read his comment as the one they already released fixed the RROD problems, so you don't have to wait for the new one to get released.
Falcon did solve most of the problems, but it is not perfect, and some folks have still had issues. It's been MUCH more reasonable then early ones though which break when you look at them wrong. All told, a Falcon will probably work just fine for a long time. My point was if you're going to be buying a new 360 soon, it might be worth waiting a few months just to get the latest and greatest since the OP doesn't seem to be in a big rush.