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Arcade Collecting => Miscellaneous Arcade Talk => Topic started by: SirPeale on April 30, 2008, 10:08:45 am

Title: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on April 30, 2008, 10:08:45 am
Back when I was working for an operator, I had all the stuff I needed to make harnesses at will.

Now that I no longer do, I don't have the items I need to repair and/or build harnesses.

My memory is *crap* these days.  I can't remember what these items in particular are.

First: monitor signal connector.  I've got a few of the housings, but I need the pins that go inside them.  What are both called?  Here: http://www.competitiveproducts.com/list.php?id=32 is where I got the housings, but the Trifurcon pins don't fit in there, or I'm doing it wrong.

Next: we called them "pinball connectors" at my former employ.  The type used to connect power connectors on pinballs.  I know they're IDC, but I need to know specifically what type.  There are too doggone many to wade thru.  I could use both male and female.

All help is appreciated!  I have a video connector that's currently on hold because I need the pins.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: RetroACTIVE on April 30, 2008, 11:34:07 am
Housings:

MOLEX: KK® Crimp Terminal Housing, 0.156" Pitch
AMP: SL-156 SERIES, .156", NYLON


Female Contacts Molex: KK Series .156 (3.96mm) Trifurcon Crimp Terminals 08-50-0189

Jameco.com or mouser.com has them both... you can get them with or without a locking ramp... sometimes Jameco does not have the selection that mouser has cause there are so many options... ramp/ no ramp, keyed / not keyed and number of positions...etc.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: Ken Layton on April 30, 2008, 11:38:37 am
The video connectors are Molex "K.K." series spaced .156 inch (Mouser Electronics numbers shown):

538-09-50-7061 6 pin housing

538-09-50-7031 3 pin housing

538-09-50-7101 10 pin housing

538-08-50-0106 normal pin for above housings

538-08-50-0189 trifurcon pin for above housing

As to "pinball connectors" most pinball manufacturers used a mix of AMP brand and/or Molex.

Typical on Williams system 11 are these AMP "MTA .156" IDC connectors:

571-6405999 9 pin IDC Orange 18 gauge

571-6406009 9 pin IDC Yellow 20 gauge

571-6406019 9 pin IDC Red 22 gauge

AMP colors their IDC connectors for a reason. Each color connector is designed to only accept a certain gauge of wire throughout the whole connector. The above are just examples.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on April 30, 2008, 02:05:32 pm
I never could get the trifurcon pins to fit in that housing correctly.  Must be something I'm doing wrong.

As for the "pinball connectors" the ones I've dealt with have been a neutral color.  Later Williams pins had them, IE Star Trek, Red & Ted's Road Show, Terminator 2 and the like.   Are those the same as above?  And what are the male part numbers?
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on April 30, 2008, 02:08:15 pm
Also, they had a lot more than nine positions on them.  More like 24, IIRC.  Wish I still had some intact to reference by.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: Ken Layton on April 30, 2008, 02:59:37 pm
I only used 9 pins as an example. They are made in other sizes.

Great Plains Electronics also sells connectors specific to pinball and video games.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on April 30, 2008, 03:16:36 pm
I contacted my contact @ Betson New England (where they purchased those connectors).  I was surprised she still worked there, I thought she was retiring.

She told me that these connectors are from a company called Cinch. 

http://www.cinch.com/index.cinch from a Google search

but I don't see these connectors on their site.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on April 30, 2008, 04:04:07 pm
Called Cinch, they told me they have no idea what I'm talking about.

Though the ones @ Betson are $1.30 each, the shipping kills the deal.  Guess I'll have to put together an order.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on May 01, 2008, 10:49:19 am
I found a couple of the "pinball connectors" in an old toolbox.

I also found this @ Mouser: 571-6447526 but I'm not sure if it's the same thing.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on May 01, 2008, 11:32:50 am
I took a good close look at the connector I had and noted it said "ITW" on it.  Google brought me this:

http://www.itwpancon.com/

Those are it in their front page picture, now to narrow it down...
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: SirPeale on May 01, 2008, 02:53:53 pm
Thanks, Jim, for posting the link, and Ken for first suggesting it.  They had the male connectors I was looking for, but not the IDC female.  Probably because all pinheads insist on replacing the IDC connectors with the other style - they're more reliable.

I'll just get them from my old contact.  I have to place an order soon, anyway.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: Ken Layton on May 01, 2008, 06:31:04 pm
Some of the machines people have brought to work on lately literally have had to have ALL the connectors (male and female) replaced due to corrosion or broken contacts.
Title: Re: Need help identifying connector types and numbers, where to order, etc
Post by: Ken Layton on May 02, 2008, 10:28:50 am
Bally "Special Forces".