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Title: Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: crackbone on May 26, 2003, 07:02:21 pm
Hi all!

I'm at the finish line for my cabinet (thank god!!!!) and I'm drilling the CP now.  

My question is this-
I have a 3/4 " CP, with a 1/8" Lexan overlay, with happs competition joysticks to put in.   When I'm drilling the holes, what width should I make the holes for the joysticks?

I know people have mentioned that the range of motion might be limited if I don't route the bottom out, so if that's the case can I make a wider hole to accomadate this?
Thanks for any advice... I'd like to only drill this once :)

Crack.
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: Brax on May 26, 2003, 07:05:43 pm
Typically people make a 1 1/4" dia hole and route out a 1/4" of the control panel thickness.
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: GroovyTuesdaY on May 26, 2003, 07:15:29 pm
Well, i'll tell you my experience.
I have a 3/4 " plywood top panel and i routed out a 2/8" amount of wood from the underside of the panel to allow for my joysticks to be up high enough.
I ended up useing a black and decker rotary saw which i could set how deep it would cut and it worked great!  
Ild say if you haven't  put your panel together yet (ie: the sides and bottom) then use a router to cut your depth.   it seems like you will need to cut out about 3/8'ths deep to get a good joystick throw.
i also ended up useing an 1 3/4 inch  hole saw for the hole for the joystick.  It worked great!

Might want to get a second oppinion on how deep to recess the routing to allow for the lexan as i didnt use any lexan.  I found some good enamel paint works just as good.  :) Lesscutting too hehehe.

Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: rampy on May 26, 2003, 07:15:37 pm
*cough* I don't have competitions (I have super clones)... but i used 1 1/8" hole saw (same as my buttons) for my joysticks... on 3/4" plywood (no lexan on top)...

*shrug*  I don't think you could go wrong with either 1 1/4" or 1 1/8" for joystick holes... just being contentious.

rampy
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: u_rebelscum on May 27, 2003, 04:37:01 am
Both my supers and (hacked) competitions have 1 1/8" holes, but 1 1/4" will work too.  Routered about 1/4" to 3/8" on the bottom, and am very pleased with the results, but some people complain that 3/8" isn't enough. *shrug*
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: armad1ll0 on May 27, 2003, 05:45:50 am
what is a "hacked" competition?

Yes competitions have a designed mounting depth in 1/2" wood so 3/4" needs routing to clear it out for the "proper" stick height. I find that Ultimates fit fine in 3/4 but many people here hate them.

1.125" needs to be dead center if you want 3/4" + an acrylic overlay. If it's not lined up in the dead center then you'll wear a ring in your handle cause it'll hit.
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: skirge66 on May 27, 2003, 06:54:08 am
I mounted my competitions in 3/4" mdf...like stated over and over above, I routered them in 1/4" and used 1 1/8" hole same as my buttons, plenty of room and no problems
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: steve_pss on May 27, 2003, 11:35:08 am
I'm using 1/2' MDF with 1/8" lexan over it. Can a paddle bit be used rather than a hole saw?
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: rampy on May 27, 2003, 02:58:25 pm
I'm using 1/2' MDF with 1/8" lexan over it. Can a paddle bit be used rather than a hole saw?

yup if paddle== spade bit in my terminology.

you can also use a forstners bit (but better off with a drill press/guide)

*shrug*

rampy
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: steve_pss on May 27, 2003, 04:17:09 pm
wish i had a drill press, dont and i need to go through 1/8 lexan and the 1/2 inch MDF. hoping to clamp the 2 pieces together and drill in one shot.
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: rampy on May 27, 2003, 04:38:22 pm
wish i had a drill press, dont and i need to go through 1/8 lexan and the 1/2 inch MDF. hoping to clamp the 2 pieces together and drill in one shot.

It's not required (except it's a good idea with a forstners bit, from what I understand)... and is helpful with other bits obviously...  but plenty of people have done just fine with spade/paddle/hole saw bits without a drill press, including me...

Just wanted to give you more information than you needed, i think=P

rampy
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: steve_pss on May 27, 2003, 04:42:58 pm
mucho helpful, but yet one more trip to the Home Despot shall be required. My Wife, is going to kill me.
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: armad1ll0 on May 27, 2003, 05:38:24 pm
wish i had a drill press, dont and i need to go through 1/8 lexan and the 1/2 inch MDF. hoping to clamp the 2 pieces together and drill in one shot.

drill press isn't the best for this because of the fact that your control panel might just be too wide. There another tool which fits on a hand drill that guilds the bit down for a perpendicular hole. I forgot what it's called. but it goes on your hand drill. I basicall put my control panel on the ground and drill down using my weight to hold the acrylic onto the MDF
Title: Re:Proper Hole Width on CP for Competition Joysticks?
Post by: u_rebelscum on May 27, 2003, 09:12:09 pm
what is a "hacked" competition?

Very much like  oscar's triggerstick hack (http://www.oscarcontrols.com/projects/triggerstick.shtml)