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Title: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: langdoguk on March 23, 2008, 05:22:32 am
Hi there , I'm wanting to put my pc monitor in my cab upside down as it is the easiest way to install for the monitor I have ,but I'm having trouble getting windows rotated correctly. I downloaded Nvidia driver (MX 400) and used the rotate 180 feature ,when I restarted windows the start up and loading screen was not rotated but when it kicked in windows was rotated ,I started up Atomic FE and Mame worked fine , but when I tried Sega (plug n play) and I started the game it was not rotated ,I then tried Arcade Music Box and that said Graphics mode not supported . Is there another way for me to flip windows permanently for everything to work ? I'm using Windows XP .I'm have poor pc skills so please keep it easy. Any help would be great  :cheers:

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Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: Fozzy The Bear on March 23, 2008, 05:45:31 am
Hi there , I'm wanting to put my pc monitor in my cab upside down as it is the easiest way to install for the monitor I have ,but I'm having trouble getting windows rotated correctly. I downloaded Nvidia driver (MX 400) and used the rotate 180 feature ,when I restarted windows the start up and loading screen was not rotated but when it kicked in windows was rotated ,I started up Atomic FE and Mame worked fine , but when I tried Sega (plug n play) and I started the game it was not rotated ,I then tried Arcade Music Box and that said Graphics mode not supported . Is there another way for me to flip windows permanently for everything to work ? I'm using Windows XP .I'm have poor pc skills so please keep it easy. Any help would be great  :cheers:

Happy Easter

The Nvidia driver is designed to rotate the desktop for using with windows programs, once you step outside of programs like Microsoft Word, or similar windows desktop based apps, it will stop working. I'm not sure that it's possible to achieve what you want in software.  There is a hardware mod you could do to the monitor to make it work upside down on a permanent basis, but it does require an understanding of monitor electronics.

I really don't understand why you would want or need to put a monitor in upside down. In any case, it may not be good for the monitor to do it.
 
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: langdoguk on March 23, 2008, 06:26:01 am
Thanks for the reply , I'm using a Mitsibushi Diamond Pro 900u monitor ,the reason I want to turn it up side down is that the bottom of the monitor has a built on half moon for the stand and if I take the stand off, it still has the half moon so I thought the flat top would be a good base for it  :dunno, I'm a bit worried about de-casing the monitor so I was hoping that flipping it would be an easier alternative . It's quite a good monitor too and I had hoped to use it for this project . :cheers:
Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: Fozzy The Bear on March 23, 2008, 06:39:34 am
Thanks for the reply , I'm using a Mitsibushi Diamond Pro 900u monitor ,the reason I want to turn it up side down is that the bottom of the monitor has a built on half moon for the stand and if I take the stand off, it still has the half moon
easily fixed.... Just put a couple of pieces of timber on your monitor shelf so that the edges of the case sit on them and half moon sits between them.

The other option is to cut a hole in the monitor shelf and let the half moon sit down into it. But do make sure that any ventilation holes in the monitor case are still free

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: NickG on March 25, 2008, 11:33:23 pm
make sure it won't be more likely to catch fire mounted upside down, as some monitors supposedly are.
Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: paigeoliver on March 25, 2008, 11:41:28 pm
As far as I can tell that is basically a myth, I have mounted all types of monitors in all different configurations with no problems at all other than having to manually degauss a few of them.

make sure it won't be more likely to catch fire mounted upside down, as some monitors supposedly are.
Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: TheShanMan on March 26, 2008, 12:11:52 am
I have my monitor turned sideways (fairly common I think). I'd say take the suggestion on how to avoid rotation if at all possible, but otherwise I wouldn't worry too much about it. I actually did de-case mine, which made it easier to mount for me, and it probably wouldn't have fit otherwise - it's a 21" monitor that barely fits depth-wise with the case off.

Since mine is rotated, I specifically wanted a video card that could rotate natively in the windows driver, so I got an ati. I think all their cards support it now (I certainly didn't get a high end one - it was about $45) but you have to run the ati installer rather than just using a bare-bones driver. I'm almost positive that I don't take a performance hit because of rotation (or at least it has been such a non-issue that I'd never guess there's a hit), and as far as windows is concerned, there is nothing out of the ordinary. Literally everything is rotated.

So the comment that Fozzy made regarding the Nvidia drivers certainly isn't true with my ati. The only thing I can figure regarding his comment is if the Nvidia cards come with the Portrait Pivot software, which doesn't work in directx so while I tried it for a while I was never able to really get it to work for mame. As long as a driver supports rotation natively in the driver I think what you want to do should work fine.
Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: javeryh on March 26, 2008, 09:44:28 am
I downloaded a program called Rotate XP and by pressing CTL+ALT+ an arrow I can get my display to face however I want.  It also turns MaLa and any game I launch using MaLa as well.  Maybe give that a shot?
Title: Re: Rotating windows 180 degrees
Post by: langdoguk on March 27, 2008, 08:13:32 am
Thanks for the replies , I think I'm going to install it the correct way up and also use the stand and build a square frame for under it to secure it ,I had a kind of trial and it looks okay . cheers  :cheers: