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Title: i got a free ikari game
Post by: gamehead89 on March 20, 2008, 02:10:41 pm
Well im new to the forums, hope to meet alot of cool friendly game lovin people here. So the story about this arcade game is that after my stepfather had moved his company to a bigger  warehouse we had found an old ikari warriors game that works perfectly fine, we also found super mario bros which worked fine aswell. i took the ikari one home already  ;D and am already thinking about when im goin back for the marios one. heres some pics of ikari warriors, i also have a few questions.

  (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/pyronian/Picture003.jpg)

one of these revolving joysticks is working perfectly fine and the other one wont go towards the northwest direction. is it possible to switch player 1 joystick with players 2? for now until i can find another joystick.

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/pyronian/Picture001.jpg)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/pyronian/Picture005.jpg)





Title: Re: i got a free akari game
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 20, 2008, 02:13:16 pm
Switch 'em out. No problems there.
But first....go get the other machine!

Oh....and welcome!
Title: Re: i got a free akari game
Post by: gamehead89 on March 20, 2008, 02:26:48 pm
haha i defenitley would be on my way to go pick it up now if i had my car. as for switching joysticks im no expert at this stuff and am completely clueless as what to do, i stuck my head in there and saw plenty of wires that need to be disconnected and reattached but im not sure which wires are for what part.
Title: Re: i got a free akari game
Post by: billpa on March 20, 2008, 02:29:17 pm
haha i defenitley would be on my way to go pick it up now if i had my car. as for switching joysticks im no expert at this stuff and am completely clueless as what to do, i stuck my head in there and saw plenty of wires that need to be disconnected and reattached but im not sure which wires are for what part.

Im not familiar with the wiring for a rotary joy (Im a noob too) but you should take a few photos with your dig camera so at least you have something to go back to if you get confused.

Great score btw. Get that mario bros. ASAP before someone else decides to take it!!
Title: Re: i got a free akari game
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 20, 2008, 02:30:45 pm
Little more complicated stick than usual.
Just grab a notepad and write down what connected where, and put some white labels on the wires with something written to indicate where they came from.

I'm sure there's gotta be an online source of info about them, I just don't know where...
Title: Re: i got a free akari game
Post by: 2600 on March 20, 2008, 02:43:19 pm
Little more complicated stick than usual.
Just grab a notepad and write down what connected where, and put some white labels on the wires with something written to indicate where they came from.

I'm sure there's gotta be an online source of info about them, I just don't know where...


Yeah, I wish there was a place where people gathered to talk about arcade controls.  Then you could search and find your answer.
Title: Re: i got a free akari game
Post by: gamehead89 on March 20, 2008, 02:45:54 pm
ok took some pics of inside the cab and this is what it  looks like. Sorry for bombarding this thread with pictures its just that i dont know what the heck im doing here and i defenitley need a hobby for the summer when im not working and hanging out  ;D

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/pyronian/Picture004.jpg)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/pyronian/Picture003-1.jpg)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/pyronian/Picture002-1.jpg)

Title: Re: i got a free akari game
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 20, 2008, 02:53:07 pm
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Yeah, I wish there was a place where people gathered to talk about arcade controls.  Then you could search and find your answer.

Sorry, my comment was dripping with enough sarcasm that I didn't feel the need to put a "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" in there.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: knave on March 20, 2008, 04:53:27 pm
Not to criticize but those are some blurry pictures... ;)

It looks like you'd be able to swap the connector for each joystick and then swap the "NO"(normally open) wire for the buttons.  This would swap the player 1 and player two controls.

BUT FIRST!

You gotta open the CP.  Look/feel for two or three spring clips that hold it down. Un do those and you can flip the Control panel for easy access to do this easy swap.

You could also clean the two joysticks, and see if the nonworking one becomes "working" again.  It just might need a switch.

Read everything you can on this forum about what people did to their games.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: gamehead89 on March 20, 2008, 07:17:33 pm
thanks for the replies, i have already opened the CP and looked inside and was scared to death lol but no worries i think if i can just write everything down and just do the "same wire same place" thing and see what happens. i had searched for manuals and such but i got nothing about replacing joysticks with any diagrams or clear instructions on how to.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: Malenko on March 20, 2008, 09:59:02 pm
why not just play on the player 2 side? too easy?

Ikari is great but having that and mario would be even better.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: gamehead89 on March 20, 2008, 10:14:42 pm
for some odd reason it wont let u play on the two player side without player 1 being used.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: frytex on March 21, 2008, 12:46:26 am
Go get the other game!!!!!!
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: ninjagun on March 21, 2008, 07:33:00 am
Swapping the joysticks is easy. I did it on my Guerrilla War machine. Just disconnect any wire harnesses from the joystick assembly and I think there are 4 screws that hold it in place. It wasn't too hard to remember how to reconnect the wires to the joystick assembly after swapping them. I didn't have to write anything down, and it was my first time doing it too. So that should be an easy fix for you.  8)
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: Neilyboy on March 21, 2008, 08:35:04 am
nice score on the cab man. yeah that should be an easy fix.. then get yourself a replacement..

not my auction but..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170203003457

keep your eyes open they pop up often! NOS should not be hard to find.
enjoy it man and what are you waiting on an original Nintendo cab is sitting there waiting for you.. hell go rent a uhaul for 30 bucks lol.

Neil
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: gamehead89 on March 21, 2008, 12:02:51 pm
 the mario game isnt going anywhere i already told my stepfather not to let anyone touch it or even think about selling it to anyone. As for the joysticks im gonna switch it today and take some pics. that ebay auction caught my eye yesterday and had me thinking haha i will more then likely bid on it and see what happens.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: MaximRecoil on March 21, 2008, 12:21:10 pm
one of these revolving joysticks is working perfectly fine and the other one wont go towards the northwest direction. is it possible to switch player 1 joystick with players 2? for now until i can find another joystick.

That's a common problem with those joysticks (one or more diagonals not working). I'm not sure what causes it but something must wear on them to the point that it can't trip two microswitches at once in the corners (I don't see how the microswitches themselves can be the problem if the north, south, east, and west all work).

Anyway, to swap them, just unplug everything (2 wires for each microswitch [8 total for each joystick] plus the rotary switch harness); unbolt them, and then the tricky part...

You need a special tool (either the official tool or a homemade one from e.g. a section of coat hanger wire) to remove the caps on the tops of the yellow plastic handles. Once you remove the caps, there is a nut down in there that needs to be removed, and then the handles will come off. That allows you to remove the joystick from the control panel.

The Oscar Controls guy made a good thread detailing how to do this with a homemade tool (made from a coat hanger); and that's how I do it as well. Maybe you can find that thread.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: gamehead89 on March 21, 2008, 02:07:28 pm
yes thank u so much i'll just search for the thread. after i opened the CP i said to myself how the hell am i supposed to fit anything in there to unscrew this.

i wanna thank everyone for the help, these forums are more then what i ask for and u guys seem to know what your doing.  thanks again.  :applaud:
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: ninjagun on March 22, 2008, 07:54:17 am


You need a special tool (either the official tool or a homemade one from e.g. a section of coat hanger wire) to remove the caps on the tops of the yellow plastic handles. Once you remove the caps, there is a nut down in there that needs to be removed, and then the handles will come off. That allows you to remove the joystick from the control panel.


I didn't have to remove the caps off the joysticks to remove them from the control panel. Are you sure that's necessary?
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: u_rebelscum on March 24, 2008, 06:06:54 pm
I didn't have to remove the caps off the joysticks to remove them from the control panel. Are you sure that's necessary?

If the holes in the CP aren't big enough, you'll need to do as he said.  Sounds like your CP has big enough holes not to.
Title: Re: i got a free ikari game
Post by: MaximRecoil on March 24, 2008, 07:56:57 pm
I didn't have to remove the caps off the joysticks to remove them from the control panel. Are you sure that's necessary?

You'd have to have a pretty big joystick hole in the control panel to fit those octagonal handles through. The hole in a dedicated Ikari Warriors CP for example, is not large enough to do that. It sounds like someone may have made the hole extra large in your CP because they didn't know how to get the handles off, or didn't want to be bothered.