Build Your Own Arcade Controls Forum
Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: Babs on May 23, 2003, 09:42:43 am
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Hi, I am new to making my own stuff, but I've been thinking and planning in my head for months now. I want to build a stick for my gamecube, mainly just for soul calibur 2 and ikaruga.
I've got a rough idea of what I'm going to do, and I'm soon to order my stick(s) and buttons. I just have a bit of a query for anyone who's had a go at doing anything with a gc pad.
With the L & R buttons, is there a solid point I can solder a wire to to add those buttons to my stick? I know they're analog and I don't have any cheap pads to take to pieces right now, so I'm wondering if it's possible to make a digital connection to the 'click' at the end of a full push of those buttons?
Any help or advice or even links to cube stick projects would be gratefully received.
(p.s. I did do a search before posting, so don't be too harsh if I'm covering old ground :) )
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I would say take a closer look at your analog buttons...
they should have 3 connections....
(let me call them as +, -, and the variable...)
I think if you connect a microswitch to the variable and 1 of the other.... you should be able to hack the button digitally... (which means you press the microswitch, you press that analog button all the way down... - no analog...)
but I don't know which one is which.... so, you'll need to try it.... (or maybe measure voltage / resistance when you press the button....)
also, those 3 might have different ground from the rest of the digital buttons/directions of the pad... so, you might not want to chain the grounds for those analog buttons...
well.... I'm looking at a madcatz xbox pad myself... that's how it looks like.... but no guarantee....
hope it helps...
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Thanks, I'm hoping to pick up a couple of cheap pads and gut them this weeked, so I'll haev a good look then.
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If your going to go out of your way to build a good stick you may as well try ot make it compatable with multiple machines.
You can buy connectors for PS to GC and DC to GC as far as I know.
What I'm intending to do with my control panel (when I get enough money together to build it) is use and x-arcade pcb. That way i'll have PS2, DC, GC, Xbox, PC compatability as well as any of the next gen machines.
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Well, as it stands I have no games that I want to play with a stick other than SC2 and Ikaruga.
My first sticks will be more of a prototype than anything, so I can always do a second set. The X-arcade idea sounds a bit too pricey for me. The stick and board alone are way too pricey, and for the price of the adapters needed to work with each system I can quite easily buy a cheap pad for each system and gut & solder them.
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I just got offered a broken wavebird for a couple of bucks. I'm going to buld a stick from a wavebird now. Cool.
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Let me know how the L & R triggers go, and what's needed to make em digital.
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Heh, after more hours of thought and planning I'm going down a differnet route.
I'm gonna build a 2-player CP with PS2 pad guts, and get the decent PS2>GC pad adaptors (some only work if analog sticks are detected, useless for my project). I've recently caught up on some old 2D beat-em-ups for my PS2 and this'll be perfect that those, Soul Calibur 2 on GC (pad doesnt cut it), Ikaruga and others. Plus, I'll have nice easy L/R solders, rather than the headache of analog.
If anyone cares, I'm going to start building this week - it's my first attempt and I've never wielded an iron before :) should be fun. I'll document and update too.
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PS2 pad? those buttons are analog too. Myself I'm just going to use a couple cheapo PS1 pads and if I wanna use my GC or my friends XBox in my cabinet I'll just pick up some PSX->GC or XBox convertors. I have a PSX->PC usb convertor and I love it. Nothing beats the psx pad :)
My 1st cabinet which I'm starting now, long time comming, is going to be for fighting games, primarly SC2, shooting games, primarly TC3, and DDR!!! YAH!!
Plan on doing competition 8 way stick, 8 competition buttons, 4 top, 4 bottom, 2 select button on front, and leaning towards 2 rectagle illuminated start buttons ;D
Also if I do want to play PC games with my CP, no plans atm however, I can use psx->usb convertors. Anyone know if I can do this with mame? if not it's not a big deal.
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Mame probably supports more kinds of inputs than any other PC Application known to man. If windows sees it as a joystick then it will work with Mame.
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stay away from the PS2 black pad. All of the buttons are analog and it's a mess inside to deal with.
Read my new thread on hacking a dualshock PSOne pad.
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I was thinking more of getting a couple of cheap pads to hack up. I hoped more than anything, that they would be less complicated due to the cheap nature of their build and parts. I realised they were almost 'pressure sensitive' for want of a better description but wasn't sure how it was implemented.
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GC controllers have both analog and digital for their triggers. Thouse controllers are really hard to 'trace' points on, since the wires are a ---smurfette--- to see (My multimeter was busted while I was doing this).
I'm going to make an adaptor where you can still use the controller as normaly (why kill a 25$ controller?) but still use it as a misc input for cube. Probly wount happen until I get SC2- it's my only insperation.
There are 'holes' where the wiring goes from one side of the controller, to the other. This is probly where I'm going to solder to.