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Title: safest way to apply vinyl?
Post by: muffin man on March 04, 2008, 09:49:35 pm
sanded already and im kind scared iono how i should apply it is there anything i need to do to the surface?

thks



wats hte fastest way to sand down or remove glue from lamiante and the original side art ?

im using 40 grit and its takes years to get rid of it :/

any suggestions?
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: sstorkel on March 04, 2008, 10:58:26 pm
Are you using the right tool for the job? If I wanted to remove a lot of material in a hurry, I'd use my 3x21" belt sander. I have belts from 24-grit up to 320-grit. With the 24-grit belt installed and running at 1100sfpm, it will remove a whole lot of material in a hurry!

If you're using a random orbit sander or a finish sander, you might look for 36-grit sandpaper. You might also try switching to some sort of scraper. Perhaps a heavy-duty paint scraper?
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: BradC on March 05, 2008, 12:47:50 am
Nice tips, as I will soon be sanding away glue residue from an old beat-up CPO. Might have to invest in a sander since all I have now is an old-fashioned sanding block and sand paper. :)
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: shardian on March 05, 2008, 09:19:43 am
Not everyone has a hand-held belt sander. ;)

You might have luck with those abrasive pads that you use with a drill. You might have to skim the surface with joint compound once you are done though to fill in any uneven spots left by it.
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: ChadTower on March 05, 2008, 09:31:16 am
Not everyone has a hand-held belt sander. ;)

They should.  Men without manicures should own a hand held belt sander.   :)  They're probably not that hard to get used and certainly safer on the secondary market than a cutting tool.  I picked up mine for about $50 at a B+D store closeout.

If he's using a finish sander it will take him hours and many sheets.  The glue will gum it up fast.  Without a belt sander I'd go the chemical stripper route and then sanding.
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: shardian on March 05, 2008, 09:38:56 am
Not everyone has a hand-held belt sander. ;)

They should.  Men without manicures should own a hand held belt sander.   :)  They're probably not that hard to get used and certainly safer on the secondary market than a cutting tool.  I picked up mine for about $50 at a B+D store closeout.

Hey, I have a stationary belt sander thank you very much. A real man will pick that heavy bastard up and use it! ;D
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: ChadTower on March 05, 2008, 09:45:22 am
Hey, I have a stationary belt sander thank you very much. A real man will pick that heavy bastard up and use it! ;D


Even Norm, the king of "don't do what I do, do what I say" wouldn't push the safety rules that far...
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: shardian on March 05, 2008, 10:48:52 am
I think the belt sander I have weighs about 50 lbs, for the record.
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: ChadTower on March 05, 2008, 10:54:10 am

Now try holding it upside down, away from your body, for more than 10 seconds.  You won't even have to turn it on.  If you can do that you may want to run for governor of California.   ;D
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: sstorkel on March 05, 2008, 11:12:35 am
Without a belt sander I'd go the chemical stripper route and then sanding.

This is probably what I'd start with, assuming the cabinet was made of anything other than MDF...
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: BradC on March 05, 2008, 03:39:11 pm
So what kind of chemical stripper? Would something like goof-off work or is there a product better suited to removing this kind of adhesive?
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: ChadTower on March 05, 2008, 03:57:26 pm

Don't start with a tactical nuke - go for a mild stripper first so as to minimize potential damage to the MDF.
Title: Re: Fastest way to sand down side art and glue residue? 40 grit not cutting it
Post by: muffin man on March 05, 2008, 11:36:39 pm
thks guys for input lil late i just did 4 hrs straight up sanding with my lil hand sander :D

now how do i safetly apply vinyl without it falling off later or w/e?