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Title: Vector on TV
Post by: rhoelsch on May 14, 2003, 09:23:28 pm
Anyone have a link showing a vector game on a TV display?  There seems to be differing opinions on vector quality on television monitors.  I'm still getting a TV, but I want to know what to expect when I boot up Asteroids..
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: kspiff on May 15, 2003, 07:51:30 am
I think the general consensus has been that the vectors are too dim and sort of blocky looking, but couldn't comment personally.

Just squint real hard or something ::).. seriously, there may be some visual effects/corrections (gamma) in the various MAME builds that would help this, but you may have to 'trial and error' the best solution.
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: Ledbetter on May 16, 2003, 06:29:03 pm
  You're not going to be very happy with vectors on a TV. Especially Asteriods, since its just black and white, the scan lines stand out too much.
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: radiator on May 16, 2003, 08:19:32 pm
just took some some quick pics for ya (about 300k each - some extreme closeups too):

http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector1.JPG (http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector1.JPG)
http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector2.JPG (http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector2.JPG)
http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector3.JPG (http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector3.JPG)
http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector4.JPG (http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector4.JPG)
http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector5.JPG (http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector5.JPG)
http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector6.JPG (http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector6.JPG)
http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector7.JPG (http://www.verticalcircle.co.uk/stuff/vector7.JPG)

playable/visible, yes...
authentic, no where near! (but who cares, my mates think it's great being able to play Star Wars!)
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: Sasquatch! on May 17, 2003, 02:57:40 pm
Cool pics, radiator.  Thanks!

P.S. I always get a kick out of seeing the person taking the picture in the reflection.  ;)
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: rampy on May 17, 2003, 10:18:02 pm
Cool pics, radiator.  Thanks!

P.S. I always get a kick out of seeing the person taking the picture in the reflection.  ;)

you must really like the ebay teapot guy, huh?  =P

rampy
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: rhoelsch on May 19, 2003, 09:02:59 pm
Wow, Radiator, a sincere Thank You for your time.  I think it'll be totally usable.  For vector games, ya can't get too picky, as long as everything else looks pretty good.  That's the beauty of the hobby, folks.  Make it the way YOU want it, so that YOU'RE satisfied with it. (and have fun in the process!)  !  I assume S-video was used...any display utilities?  

Also, does anyone know if a (TV) digital comb filter helps with Mame?
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: radiator on May 20, 2003, 03:55:25 am
I assume S-video was used...any display utilities?

yeah, svideo through my radeon 7500...running MAME with hwstretch (640x480), no scanlines, and no effect...
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: HeadRusch on May 25, 2003, 12:42:27 am
I might be in the minority but I find vector games look just fine on a SVideo connection.....no they're not razor sharp but who cares.

The only time I have a problem is playing Lunar Lander (A game I really enjoy)....your ship is a little blob in the "far away" starting off part.  

Those pics, btw, came out a little blurry...my asteroids doesn't look as blurry as the screenshots, but its tough to get good shots with a digicam...
Title: Re:Vector on TV
Post by: radiator on May 25, 2003, 07:49:18 am
Those pics, btw, came out a little blurry...my asteroids doesn't look as blurry as the screenshots, but its tough to get good shots with a digicam...


yeah, tell me about it!

i took around 30mins taking those, and the ones posted were the best of the bunch.
it does look better actually standing in front of the screen, the pics were really just to give a rough idea...

 ;D