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Main => Reviews => Topic started by: kowal on December 23, 2007, 07:56:12 am
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The Korean joysticks do not use the spring only rubber ring. Smillar how Wico.
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They have very smooth movement - very comfortable. They are good to fighter but they are not suitable to shmups and platform (long throw), 8way mode only:( Unfortunately they are not precise, centre to center unequatly.
manufacturers:
CROWN
Crown Joystcik are worse qualitatively from Sanwa or iL but better from Chinese :laugh2: - copies differ, small mistakes in constructions, you can buy 4 and every will act differently (different strength of rubber ring), crapy microswitches... :blah:
If you will buy Korean joystcik on DECO microswitches - alter microswitches! DECO is crap. I recommend Omron V series (http://www.pmautomatyka.com.pl/UserFiles/File/Datasheet/V-EN.pdf?osCsid=35e830cfa0b6934aec0acf78021ed057) They on omron act a lot better!
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CLW302 - nicely executed, it acts similarly how JLW (J-stick) - korean copy, this only korean model which has not rubber ring. Full spring Action. I do not command him he has not no advantages in playing. JLW is better. Produce is stoped! (white crow)
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- rotation = square
- throw = angle - 11 degree; travel - 13mm
- engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
- diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 80%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,44kG
CLW303 - similar to Fanta, very soft, my disastrous diagonals, it was it been possible to improve - bend lever microswitches.
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- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
- engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 9mm
- diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 66%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,17kG
CLW304 - joystick on leaf switches. I think that this CRAP! :P
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- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
- engage = angle - 6 degree; travel - 7mm
- diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,22kG
CLW305 - very soft, very good diagonals, this very nice Crown model.
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- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
- engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
- diagonal = range 45 degree; hitting 90%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,175kG
CLW305 +Spring Action - for me this the best Crown model. I command him, it acts how hybrid Fanta and Competion. Good for KOF, Tekken. :notworthy:
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7920/clw30505qa5.th.jpg) (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clw30505qa5.jpg)
- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
- engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
- diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,2kG
CLW306 - NEW Crown model, Quality of realization very good! This looks beautifully. It acts to CLW305 similarly (but I still will CLW305).
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8430/clw30601ze8.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clw30601ze8.jpg)(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9225/clw30602kk1.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clw30602kk1.jpg)(http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3590/clw30603mq1.th.jpg) (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clw30603mq1.jpg)(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7805/clw30604hy8.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clw30604hy8.jpg)
- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 12 degree; travel - 12mm
- engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 8mm
- diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,275kG
manufacturers:
MyoungShin
Myoungshin
Fanta (low stiffness) - Fanta clone, the most often used in korea. Nice feel and realization. BUY:) Alter microswitches on Omron. Joystick acts on them magnificently!
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- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
- engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
- diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,22kG
Fanta (medium stiffnes) - Fanta clone, used in Saulabi. Fatal feel and realization, NOT BUY! battop is from rubber, bad centres to center, very slow joystick. CRAP!
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3629/fantamsm03gr5.th.jpg) (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fantamsm03gr5.jpg)
- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
- engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
- diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,37kG
manufacturers:
TaeYoung
TaeYoung
Fanta - original "Fanta". Japanes & Korean played on this joystick on SBO. It is very hard 0,5kG! Quality of realization very good - pretty and durable! Unfortunately when I played I lost diagonal during executing QCF:( Therefore that it is hard... Microswitches - GERSUNG very good!
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- rotation = circle
- throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
- engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
- diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
- force to engage = force to engage = 0,5kG
I apologize for my English. MOD/Admin can edit & improve sentences ^---^
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Excellent reviews :applaud:
PS. Wait for 4.5" trackball review from kowal :P
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Interesting sticks... The spot below the stick base and the dust washer -is that stationary?
Can you drill a hole in 3/4 or 5/8" MDF and bottom mount that or does that part need to be exposed?
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panel can not fatter how 15mm
5/8'' I think that it will be OK
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6206/beztytuucl0.th.gif) (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beztytuucl0.gif)
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Thank you. I kind of like the way that pokes through the hole like that.