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Title: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: MajorLag on December 08, 2007, 02:00:57 am
The 1-Star TAS (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69945.0) wasn't all that long ago and already the 0-Star barrier has been broken by Swordless Link: http://tasvideos.org/1017M.html

YouTube link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oA9mzrP4NQM

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j177/SwordlessLink/screen5.jpg)
Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: Red on December 08, 2007, 08:52:20 pm
What is this?  I saw another post about this, but have no clue as to what's going on with this?  Is it some kind of cheat?
Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: AtomSmasher on December 08, 2007, 09:25:38 pm
What is this?  I saw another post about this, but have no clue as to what's going on with this?  Is it some kind of cheat?
Technically its an exploit, not a cheat, that lets them move really fast and jump through walls.
Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: versapak on December 09, 2007, 09:54:19 am

Personally, I'm not very impressed by 'tool assisted' speed runs.



Same here. Every time I see a TAS posted, the first thing that goes through my head is, "So freakin what".

I honestly don't see what anyone else sees in runs like these.


Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: ChadTower on December 09, 2007, 11:42:06 am

Kind of lame.
Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: MajorLag on December 10, 2007, 11:02:42 am
Well to each his own I guess. I honestly don't see why some people are not impressed by these. Its like not being impressed when someone breaks the land speed record because they used a rocket car instead of running.

I like TASs because they push the boundaries of what it is possible to do in a game. And its not as though they are easy to do either. They take a lot of knowledge, patience, and often very creative thinking. To me it is a challenge different, but no less impressive, than unassisted runs.

More information on TASs for the newbies: TAS Why and How (http://tasvideos.org/WhyAndHow.html) Wikipedia entry on TASs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun)
Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: versapak on December 10, 2007, 11:30:50 am
Well to each his own I guess. I honestly don't see why some people are not impressed by these. Its like not being impressed when someone breaks the land speed record because they used a rocket car instead of running.

I like TASs because they push the boundaries of what it is possible to do in a game. And its not as though they are easy to do either. They take a lot of knowledge, patience, and often very creative thinking. To me it is a challenge different, but no less impressive, than unassisted runs.

More information on TASs for the newbies: TAS Why and How (http://tasvideos.org/WhyAndHow.html) Wikipedia entry on TASs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun)



Well, I would think that the fascination of breaking of a land speed record in a rocket powered car has whole lot more to do with fascination with what can go wrong with breaking of a land speed record in a rocket powered car than it does with the actual fascination of the process of breaking it. ;)

If there was no human life risk, then there would be very little interest.


A TAS run is nothing more than a run through a broken game. It may take some skill, but running through a broken game is lame. Who cares if he made it to the end with no stars? He broke the friggin game, so stars mean nothing anyway.


Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: MajorLag on December 10, 2007, 10:54:44 pm
Breaking the game so severely is impressive in itself. All the current non-TAS 16-star runs break the game too. You would consider them unimpressive as well?
Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: versapak on December 11, 2007, 01:15:07 am
Breaking the game so severely is impressive in itself. All the current non-TAS 16-star runs break the game too. You would consider them unimpressive as well?

Yes, I consider them unimpressive as well, though I do find tool assisted to be even less impressive.


I couldn't care less how much skill it takes. It is a skill that is just unimpressive to me.


It is like someone burping the alphabet. Ummmm... OK. There is just nothing fascinating about that to me.



Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: MajorLag on December 11, 2007, 04:46:27 pm
True, it is practically impossible to pull off such moves, but part of the point of TASs is that it is theoretically possible. Check out Andrew Gardikis' 5:00 SMB run (http://speeddemosarchive.com/Mario1.html#norm), which if I didn't know better I would have sworn was tool-assisted.
Title: Re: Mario 64 0-Star TAS
Post by: ChadTower on December 14, 2007, 03:03:21 pm

I saw some serious tool assisted pr0n the other day.  I'm not sure what that woman did was practically possible either.