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Title: 83-0
Post by: ChadTower on November 01, 2007, 09:48:47 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/highschool/news/story?id=3088759&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

Okay, wow.

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The Redmen are currently on a 50-game winning streak, and this year they've outscored their nine opponents by an average margin of 71-0 and a total score of 640-0. They have yet to punt.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: billf on November 01, 2007, 11:21:27 am
Wow is right!  72-0 after the first quarter - nine TDs each with a 2-point conversion.  My only question, why were they going for two point conversions in the first place?

Sounds like they pretty much "shut it down" half way through the first quarter and in the second quarter the coach order no one to score another TD and to stop at the 5 yard line to attempt a field goal.  They attempted a field on first down!  Crazy.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: ChadTower on November 01, 2007, 11:27:06 am
Wow is right!  72-0 after the first quarter - nine TDs each with a 2-point conversion.  My only question, why were they going for two point conversions in the first place?

Well, the only way to be great at them is to have done them, yes?  With a rushing team like that there is no reason not to attempt two pointers.


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Sounds like they pretty much "shut it down" half way through the first quarter and in the second quarter the coach order no one to score another TD and to stop at the 5 yard line to attempt a field goal.  They attempted a field on first down!  Crazy.

Yep... and even then, that can be construed as an insult to the defense.  It's just a no-win situation for the offense.  If you keep trying hard, you're running it up... if you stop trying, you're showing no respect for the defense.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: shardian on November 01, 2007, 11:28:09 am
If I had to guess, they attempt 2 pt. conversions because the odds are stacked in the defenses favor of stopping it. However, it really does look like bad sportsman ship when the team keeps doing it AND converting. They might as well go ahead with the extra point - it is lease demeaning.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: shardian on November 01, 2007, 11:30:54 am
Yep... and even then, that can be construed as an insult to the defense.  It's just a no-win situation for the offense.  If you keep trying hard, you're running it up... if you stop trying, you're showing no respect for the defense.

I hate it when people ---smurfette--- about "second stringers" running up the score. Sorry, but I think it is wrong for a coach to tell his players to perform "less than 100%", or to punt early/laydown. Sorry, but you just suck if the 2nd or 2rd string rings you up.

The ONLY time a coach should be accused of running up scores is when the 1st string is still in the late stages of a game.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: ChadTower on November 01, 2007, 11:33:36 am
That's what I'm talking about... they need real game reps to stay sharp enough to succeed against the better teams.  It's not necessarily their fault that the other team had 4 turnovers in the first quarter.  No one would anticipate 72 points in 15 minutes... I'd imagine both coaches were standing there thinking that at some point the defense was going to stop bleeding the way they were.  You can't shut a whole game down 8 minutes into the game... that would be flat out terrible.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: billf on November 01, 2007, 11:36:34 am
There were actually 6 turnovers in the first quarter.  5 fumble recoveries and an interception.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: Kevin Mullins on November 01, 2007, 11:47:24 am
Wow.

The coach did a good job of not "running the score up".
He didn't mean for them to "laydown" and not score when they got to the five yard line. What he was wanting to do was keep the score from being outrageously rediculous but still get field goal attempt pratice in. Same for the two point conversion attempts, that is just something you need to do regardless of the score in order to prepare for the NEXT game. Those two things can be deciding factors in a later game in the playoffs and the championship game.

Most people don't understand that when playoffs start generally the first round is usually matched up between a No.1 team and a barely squeeked into the playoffs team. This particular game was indeed a typical first round playoff game.
Therefore the win is fair to say pretty much decided before it starts, yet the coach of the No.1 team still needs to play and practice in preperation for the NEXT games, which only get harder.

And the simple fact is just that they absolutely dominated the first quarter with shear talent and the luck of the gameplay. No-one to "blame" there.

I have two boys playing high school football btw..........
Our last district game is tommorow night against a team that just hasn't done well in several years. Prediction is we will absolutely dominate that game.

Yet our record will put us in the bottom of the playoff picks, which means we will go up against a No.1 team that hasn't lost a game in several years......which means our ass will probably be handed to us on a platter. That's just the way it goes.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: ChadTower on November 01, 2007, 12:58:38 pm
This particular game was indeed a typical first round playoff game.

Typical in the seeding matchup... not so typical in that a 4-5 team got in and the winning team was on a 50 game winning streak and had a 640-0 point differential for this season.  It's a very extreme difference even between a top and bottom seed.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: Kevin Mullins on November 01, 2007, 03:00:26 pm
Yeah, I meant "typical" in the matchup by way of rankings per say, first round playoff game being between a No.1 team playing against a team that just made it into the playoffs.
The seasons points spread between the two teams was definitly not a typical matchup.

Yet keep in mind that part of the ranking system is based on the points spread of a season games outcome, not just win-loss records.
Which also factors into why these two teams were matched up in the first round of playoffs.... merely due to each teams overall rankings.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: hypernova on November 04, 2007, 10:24:05 pm
Anyone see the play by the Trinity Division III team that involves 15 laterals?  I counted, and it's 15 of them.  After about the first 8, you could see the other team worn out.
I would think that since it's a championship game, they would've tried a little harder to get the damn ball.
Title: Re: 83-0
Post by: ChadTower on November 05, 2007, 09:11:32 am

There was a thread here about it.