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Title: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: ifkz on September 26, 2007, 07:05:26 pm
This was non working monitor and I installed a new HOT, Flyback, & complete cap kit from Bob Roberts and I got it working well.  Unfortunately I put it in my Centipede and its ARII gave it too much voltage (too much -12 that should have been -5) and blew something out.  I also put a WG4900 on the Centipede and it blew out the green power regulator on the neck board.  The WG4900 and the ARII have been repaired, but this one is giving me fits!  Any thoughts?
The B+ was tested on the long white ceramic resistor and that's okay but it is getting very hot.
As per flowchart we pulled R216 on the neckboard and it was okay.  A neck glow is not present.
UPDATE:  No voltage to on pins 9 & 10 on neck board (power to filament).  Check all transistors on neck board, all okay.  Checked all diodes in HV section, they checked out.
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on September 27, 2007, 01:57:11 pm
how good are you with electronics,i mean are you safe working with monitors?
if so i can point you to some very handy advice
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 27, 2007, 02:46:30 pm
he has local help with it greatspain.... what do you want to try?


Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on September 27, 2007, 03:05:15 pm
check the schems here http://www.freeinfosociety.com/electronics/schemview.php?id=2245
i worked on a lot of these chassis back in the 80's/90's and they had lots of faults
first check your voltages at test points 10(130v) and 14(190v),check tp12(+12v)
there is another transistor(tr20 i think) under the big load resistor(r105),that caused problems also check the resistance of the big load resistor
check tp1(+24v)
when the resistor r105 gets really,really hot thats usually a sign the hdt(hot)is shot,perhaps yours has blown again-pull it out the chassis and check it,better still change it as its a bu508a
when you said your board sent the chassis -12 do you mean through the sync?
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 27, 2007, 03:29:31 pm
really have no clue how it did what it did to the monitor but it did.  The only thing that was out of whack was the -5v was pushing -12.5 or so... After rechecking and installing a 7905 (the -5v reg) its fine.  We tested the wg4900 that he as on it and its working fine and is stable.
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on September 27, 2007, 03:45:35 pm
very strange to affect the monitor,all i can imagine is the bu508a has gone faulty-but try all those test points as they will point towards the problem,it sounds like the flyback is not operating
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 30, 2007, 12:07:10 pm
tp10 is at 85.6
tp14 is at 00.4      hmmmmm not looking good...
tp12 is at  2.8

that would explain the lack of neck glow
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on September 30, 2007, 12:16:46 pm
check d15
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 30, 2007, 12:28:07 pm
its good
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on September 30, 2007, 12:30:09 pm
when you installed the bu508a it did have the plastic insulation sheet behind it?
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 30, 2007, 12:32:32 pm
yes it does



the hot is getting really really hot.... sooo... I will check local for another one

thanks gs
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on September 30, 2007, 12:46:05 pm
check +130v at r118
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 30, 2007, 12:47:13 pm
can do


78.1  on the right side
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 30, 2007, 01:02:43 pm
i am  going to pull the hot and check it...


the hot looks to be ok under standard npn transistor testing.
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: ifkz on September 30, 2007, 02:46:03 pm
I guess it's time to pull the bu508a and check it.  If that checks out then that leaves the flyback as the problem.
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on September 30, 2007, 05:41:33 pm
thats the hot and its looks to be fine
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on September 30, 2007, 05:52:17 pm
are you getting +130 at r105?
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on October 07, 2007, 06:53:31 pm
tr22 is blown....


thanks again great spain
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: grantspain on October 08, 2007, 02:51:10 am
so is it all up and running now?
and its grantspain not great spain,my spanish friends all call me Gran(great in spanish) but only because they cannot pronounce the "t" at the end of my name,not because i am great :cry:
Title: Re: Hantarex MTC9000- no neck glow
Post by: cw on October 08, 2007, 09:47:13 am
I hope to have the part needed today..   I will let you know..