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Title: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: teknomedic on August 08, 2007, 12:10:13 pm
If this isn't allowed to talk about just let me know.

Anyway... when I've looked for the Cruis'n Exotica set I've only ever seen one version (to be honest I'm not sure what version) and so for the longest time I thought there was only one version ever released.  Well... I've bought a couple of PCBs for my personal collection and have now run accross these versions I could dump.

Cruis'n Exotica versions....
v1.6
v2.0
v2.4

I guess there was also a v1.3 based on the old stickers, but that was since upgraded to 1.6.

So... I'm wondering, if there really is only one version that's been released to the net... should I dump the versions I have and if I do, is there a place I should submit them... or would the MameDev benefit at all from having more versions???

TK.
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: JimmyU on August 08, 2007, 12:47:23 pm
Go here:

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=guru (http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=guru)

The Guru will know what to do.
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: teknomedic on August 08, 2007, 01:08:40 pm
thanks... I posted there and will see what happens. :)
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: fjl on August 08, 2007, 01:32:43 pm
Dump a ROM set. I've heard that so many times but have no clue to what that means.  What does it mean?
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: teknomedic on August 08, 2007, 01:37:54 pm
Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

but it basically means that you have a PCB or the physical rom chips in hand... and you then use a eprom burner/programer etc to "dump" or copy the rom data off the physical eprom chip and end up with a file that MAME or other emulators could use to run the game.

So for me, if I dump my Exotica roms... I'll remove the chips from the PCB, put them in my programer... have it read the data and it will export a copy of the data into a .bin file or whatever format needed.
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: slider2732 on August 08, 2007, 02:59:31 pm
Yeah, that's it :)
I have a burner and regularly check roms to make sure they are ok..if not, rom gets reburnt and tried again.
You end up with the .bin binary file and that's the contents of each eprom chip.
Easy enough to see in say MAME where each rom has it's own set of code. The whole game program is split up into pieces that will fit on the physical size of storage in each eprom. When the emulator starts, it reads each rom like it would in the original game.
So dumping a full set of roms refers to putting each chip in the burner and reading off what's contained on it.
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: torez on August 08, 2007, 03:40:58 pm
You can send in the boards as well, if there is interest for these.  They will dump the roms and will make sure the roms were dumped correctly.
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: SavannahLion on August 08, 2007, 03:53:47 pm
That brings to mind a hilarious argument I once had with someone. He was convinced that a ROM "dump" literally meant removing the data, copying the data, then "put it back" into the ROM. In the same way one would remove a carton of milk from the fridge.

He was also convinced that was how game cartridges worked as well. That the entire contents of the ROM was removed from ROM, loaded into system RAM, then replaced once you finished the game. Hence why a lot of games have a "do you want to quit now?" option when saving the game... at least according to his logic.

He was so convinced this was how the process worked that he was terrified of doing dumps during any incliment weather lest the power goes out and he "loses" his data permanently   ::)
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: teknomedic on August 08, 2007, 05:44:27 pm
That brings to mind a hilarious argument I once had with someone. He was convinced that a ROM "dump" literally meant removing the data, copying the data, then "put it back" into the ROM. In the same way one would remove a carton of milk from the fridge.

He was also convinced that was how game cartridges worked as well. That the entire contents of the ROM was removed from ROM, loaded into system RAM, then replaced once you finished the game. Hence why a lot of games have a "do you want to quit now?" option when saving the game... at least according to his logic.

He was so convinced this was how the process worked that he was terrified of doing dumps during any incliment weather lest the power goes out and he "loses" his data permanently   ::)


 :o


 :laugh2:

That's.... a.w.e.s.o.m.e.... lol.
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: torez on August 08, 2007, 06:22:35 pm
That brings to mind a hilarious argument I once had with someone. He was convinced that a ROM "dump" literally meant removing the data, copying the data, then "put it back" into the ROM. In the same way one would remove a carton of milk from the fridge.

He was also convinced that was how game cartridges worked as well. That the entire contents of the ROM was removed from ROM, loaded into system RAM, then replaced once you finished the game. Hence why a lot of games have a "do you want to quit now?" option when saving the game... at least according to his logic.

He was so convinced this was how the process worked that he was terrified of doing dumps during any incliment weather lest the power goes out and he "loses" his data permanently   ::)

Yes, and in case of data loss, each game comes with a book with program code that allows you to enter it back (by hand) to the cartridge.  :P
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: slider2732 on August 09, 2007, 01:52:41 pm
 :laugh2:

Similar to renting a DVD and wondering how to rewind it once you'd watched the film.

Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: RandyT on August 09, 2007, 03:47:13 pm
Similar to renting a DVD and wondering how to rewind it once you'd watched the film.

You can't re-wind them.  That's why you have to throw them away after you've watched the film.


RandyT

Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: Flip_Willie on August 09, 2007, 03:55:48 pm
You can't re-wind them.  That's why you have to throw them away after you've watched the film.

Lol.  :laugh2:

Just as it is,
Flip Willie
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: teknomedic on August 10, 2007, 04:16:32 am
You don't have to throw them away any more... they make a rewinder now!


(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t297/teknomedic/DVDRewinder1.jpg)


(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t297/teknomedic/DVDRewinder2.jpg)



Also... if you look close at Rewinder picture... there's even a switch for your MP3s so you don't have to keep rebuying them from iTunes. ;)
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: Samstag on August 10, 2007, 01:01:49 pm
Those are JUNK!

If you value your DVD collection, you'll pony up the $129 for the Monster Cable rewinder.  Or get the deluxe version if you need HD-DVD or Bluray support.
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: teknomedic on August 10, 2007, 09:04:33 pm
Oh nooooo  :cry: ..... I forgot about Blu-Ray and HD-DVD..  :banghead: .. and I just placed my order yesterday.  Guess I'll just have to get another one later on down the road.  :dunno
Title: Re: Dumping a ROM set... where to submit??
Post by: WaRpEd on August 10, 2007, 11:05:12 pm
Tha sad thing is I know a few people who are technologically impaired ( is that a word?)
and would buy those.
They usually shop at Walmart. >:D











Slowly.
 :laugh2: