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Title: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: DcMaN on July 24, 2007, 09:40:18 pm
I recently put a 24" sanyo tv in the cabinet, and ever since windows is very blurry, it is very hard to read text. The tv has component input 480i. Right now i have it hooked up to svideo, im wondering if i change it to a component wire  if the blurryness will decrease ? Or is there something else i need to do? Games seem to look OK, however it is hard to see what game you want to play due to the text being blurry. Is there anythign i can do to fix this ?
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: mrserv0n on July 24, 2007, 09:55:12 pm
I could be wrong but any tv has pretty low resolution I had a 31" for a while and it was blurry, now I have a 60" and its very blurry, just for text though, but my 42" plasma looks supreme, I guess thats price you pay to have a real monitors resolution.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: DcMaN on July 24, 2007, 10:02:47 pm
damn thats what i was hoping you wouldnt say :( . Think it would be worth it to use a DVI > component cable ?
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: Hoopz on July 24, 2007, 10:16:13 pm
I have a 27 inch tv and for my purposes, it looks good.  Windows is blurry, but thats just a part of it.  I use GameEx for my front end and I can see everything quite clearly and it looks sharp.  I use a Tron theme with GameEx.

What front end are you using?  A guess would be Mame32 since you are talking about picking games from Windows.  Most of them look great but Mame32 isn't going to look good on a 24 inch tv.  You may check the wiki for different front ends if you are using Mame32.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: DcMaN on July 24, 2007, 10:19:17 pm
ill keep that in mind, i havn't exactly set up a frond end yet, because i was debating on what to use but ill check out game ex it looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: Anubis_au on July 24, 2007, 11:31:19 pm
Component video would also look better than S-video. If you can output component, I'd do it.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: AwesomeAlbert on July 24, 2007, 11:42:26 pm
make your font bigger.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: severdhed on July 24, 2007, 11:48:52 pm
TVs suck for displaying windows, it is just that way.  you'd be much better off using command line mame and a nice frontend like MALA, and avoid windows all together.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: DcMaN on July 25, 2007, 12:03:35 am
right now, i installed game ex, and the blurryness has faded for the most part. However Is there anyway i can tell Game EX to start up as sooon as windows starts ?
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: tba on July 25, 2007, 12:20:36 am
you can either just copy a link into your "startup" directory in the all programs folder, or run your FE as a shell

try http://tomspeirs.com/gameEx/Shell.htm for info on doing this.

good luck
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: Minwah on July 25, 2007, 05:40:34 am
TVs suck for displaying windows, it is just that way.

True...but they ROCK for use as a standard res arcade monitor IF they have a scart input.  That way they effectively are an arcade monitor.

Of course I mean CRT TV's...
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: severdhed on July 25, 2007, 09:24:18 am
if you want to have gameex load at startup, that is as easy as placing a shortcut in the startup folder, however people will still see that you are running windows.  if you want to completely hide windows...the wiki is very helpful


http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Hiding_Windows

by following these steps, you can pretty much completely disguise your system so nobody even knows it is a regular PC.  load your front end as shell and the desktop never appears at all. 
i havent tried it with gameex, but it works like a charm with MALA
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: Jeff AMN on July 25, 2007, 09:31:03 am
Once I set Windows to 640x480, I didn't think it looked too bad at all. Sure, the icons and such were huge, but I only use Windows to launch my front end anyway. The games look spectacular on the set. I'm using a DVI --> Component adapter though.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: Green Giant on July 25, 2007, 10:32:31 am
I found windows looks pretty crisp on my tv using component.  At first it looked terrible, but I changed the background and all the folders/font to a black-green design.  Now I can read everything without the white burning my retina.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: SirPeale on July 25, 2007, 10:56:47 am
And of course, the lower your resolution, the better picture you'll see.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: RayB on July 25, 2007, 01:26:22 pm
Anything higher than 640x480 is pointless on a standard TV.
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: xmenxmen on July 25, 2007, 01:52:04 pm
Anything higher than 640x480 is pointless on a standard TV.


I am running svideo to a 25in rca tv and think it looks just fine. 
Title: Re: Tv in mame cabinet=blurryness ?
Post by: Green Giant on July 25, 2007, 01:54:01 pm
Anything higher than 640x480 is pointless on a standard TV.


It is typically impossible on a standard tv.  Hi-def can handle it.