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Title: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 21, 2007, 10:20:13 pm
Looks like hell froze over.  If you go to the nebula homepage there is a fairly playable cps3 emulator!  From what I understand cps3 games should be fairly playable in mame as well by .117!!
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Joystick Jerk on June 22, 2007, 06:52:41 am
Good news for sure, but I bet a lot of mainstream Mamers excitment will be tempered when they hear there are only 3 games under CPS3.

Still, SF3! YAY!
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 22, 2007, 07:20:32 am
Actually there are about 8. 

sfiii
sfiii 2
sfiii 3

jojo
jojo 2

warzard/red earth

And I'm thinking a couple random games that aren't emulated yet.  It's not so much quality as quantity.  Sfiii, in particular is probably the pinnacle of 2d fighting games.  More importantly, this is one of those systems that a lot of mame devs said "oh it'll never happen" so it's one more step towards completeness.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Kaytrim on June 22, 2007, 12:06:45 pm
Darn it, I am going to have to upgrade my PC now.  The SF series is one of my favorites.  What are the other games like?

TTFN
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 22, 2007, 12:23:33 pm
They are all street-fighter-like games.  Nothing horribly remarkable, but all fun to play.  Warzard/Red Earth is particularly interesting.  It's pretty much the only capcom fighter that didn't get a million sequels, and thus it's fairly rare.  I think it was only ported to the DC (and badly at that).  Think darkstalkers only wierder (if that's even possible). 


You shouldn't have to upgrade your pc though.  Cps3 shouldn't tax a pc that much more than cps2 afaik. 
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Kaytrim on June 22, 2007, 12:57:44 pm
I am at the max right now with SFAZ.  Don't even talk about the CHD games.  I've been afraid to try those.  My PC is an older P4 1.5ghz in think, with 512mb ram.  The biggest hurdles right now are the cost and getting the OK from the boss (aka wife unit).  I'd like to get a mid range dual core with at least 2gb of ram and a 3-500gb HD.  I just priced out a Dell through work and after customizations it comes to $1,212 including discounts.  I just can't afford what I want.

TTFN
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: SavannahLion on June 22, 2007, 04:11:54 pm
Forget a whole PC, go after the key components, MB, CPU, RAM and GPU. Unless you're jumping major generation gaps, such as changing PSU connectors or going from PATA to SATA, everything else can be repurposed and reused. It's MAME, I doubt you're going to need a 10,000 RPM drive or the latest generation GPU or Gigabit network controller.

Edit: NVM, I didn't notice you wanted a higher capacity drive.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: NIVO on June 23, 2007, 01:44:10 pm
messin with this today and came up with 2 screen collages just for folks who'd like to see some ingame screenies.  :cheers:

A bit big to show, so heres a linky with rared up screens

Get it Here! (http://www.hostclip.com/dl/cd4f8a1c83c7687c5601f3d24e053cd8)
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Banacek on June 23, 2007, 11:40:08 pm
Wait, what?!?!?!?!

(sorry, my head just exploded)

I have to check this out. I'll be right back.

EDIT: I think that was the first time I ever played Red Earth. This is amazing? Are there any details yet to how they pulled this off and got past the encryption?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: fjl on June 25, 2007, 12:25:01 am
What about Marvel Vs Capcom 2? Is that also a CPS3 game?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Banacek on June 25, 2007, 01:29:46 am
What about Marvel Vs Capcom 2? Is that also a CPS3 game?

Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 was a Naomi game.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Silver on June 26, 2007, 12:42:18 am
This is amazing? Are there any details yet to how they pulled this off and got past the encryption?

Yes,  same guys who pulled off the cps2 "proper" decryption - (Mainly a spanish chap called Andy and Mame's original author Nicola)

They blogged all the cps2 progress, and carried right on for cp3:

http://andreasnaive.blogspot.com/  (in spanish) or translated by google
 (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fandreasnaive.blogspot.com%2F&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)

although I'll be impressed if you anyone can follow the math...
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: fjl on June 26, 2007, 02:50:20 am
What about Marvel Vs Capcom 2? Is that also a CPS3 game?

Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 was a Naomi game.

Naomi? What does that mean in terms of getting MvsC2 on MAME?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Joystick Jerk on June 26, 2007, 04:38:31 am
Naomi? What does that mean in terms of getting MvsC2 on MAME?

A few years wait.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: AcidArmitage on June 27, 2007, 02:17:40 pm
it works friggin beautifully.

and what the hell is jojo?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Organic Jerk on June 27, 2007, 02:23:43 pm
and what the hell is jojo?

I had to look it up myself...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jojo%27s_Bizarre_Adventure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jojo%27s_Bizarre_Adventure)

Quote
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (ジョジョの奇妙な冒険, Jojo no Kimyōna Bōken?, alternatively translated as JoJo's Venture) is a Japanese manga written and illustrated by Hirohiko Araki. It is famous for its original art style (complete with over-the-top violence), intricate plot, and numerous Western rock music references. Every main character's name in each series can be read as JoJo....

.... Later, two fighting games were also adapted from series 3 by Capcom, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (a.k.a. JoJo's Venture) and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future, both in 1999. The success of the fighting games is one of the factors that led to the series' growing popularity in North America.

Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Kaytrim on June 27, 2007, 02:27:56 pm
it works friggin beautifully.

and what the hell is jojo?

What type of system are you running this on?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: AcidArmitage on June 27, 2007, 07:30:01 pm
ive got a ---smurfy--- old gateway with a pentium 4 2ghz processor and 512kb of RAM. The damn thing is haunted and likes to start problems for no reason  :dunno
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Organic Jerk on June 27, 2007, 07:48:16 pm
512kb of RAM.

kb's, huh?  Amazing... I could have used a lesson in RAM efficiency when I was buying a 4mb upgrade just to play Doom...


 ;D
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: AcidArmitage on June 28, 2007, 12:14:47 am
ayayayay you know what i meant... sure does feel like Kbytes sometimes though
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 28, 2007, 08:12:04 pm
yeah, like I said before, cps3 isn't a very powerful system, it should run on about anything.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Zeno on July 01, 2007, 02:40:47 pm
So how long before we can get this into MAME?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Howard_Casto on July 01, 2007, 07:16:08 pm
Umm it's in mame NOW! (as of .116u3)
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: javeryh on August 13, 2007, 12:35:41 pm
Umm it's in mame NOW! (as of .116u3)

So does it work?  I haven't had a chance to try it out yet...
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: The Chugnut on August 13, 2007, 01:57:07 pm
So does it work?  I haven't had a chance to try it out yet...

Indeed it does! Played it in 0.117 and it works beautifully. Apparently, "Video emulation is not 100%," but unless you know exactly what isn't "100%" you probably won't notice.  :)

Try the NO-CD version, otherwise you'll need to sit there for ages while it installs itself.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: hulkster on August 13, 2007, 05:02:35 pm
Umm it's in mame NOW! (as of .116u3)

wow....this is awesome news howard!  thanks for the update!  i agree...sf3 is freakin sweet, and one of my favs if not THE fav sf game.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: hulkster on August 13, 2007, 08:53:27 pm
im having problems getting sf3 to work at all.  i downloaded the new mame version 118 and it shows the rom, but it says it cant find the chd file or rom when i hit enter.  ive got the rom in the mame\roms folder....and the chd file in its own folder: mame\roms\sfiii3.  isnt that all i have to do?  this sf3 rom/chd file is from rom set like 111 or something.  do i need a new rom set?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: SGT on August 13, 2007, 09:14:59 pm
I would be surprised if the rom or chd did not change in .116 or .117.  Might want to compare your rom and chd's filename and size with what is listed here:

http://www.mameworld.net/maws/romset/sfiii3
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: hulkster on August 13, 2007, 09:48:49 pm
yeah apparently i have an out of date chd file.  i have a sfiii.chd and i need a 33s000.chd file to run this.  been googling for a while....no luck yet  :banghead:
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: hulkster on August 13, 2007, 10:18:28 pm
okay, finally got it to pull up.  only now its "rewriting" and will be for the next 18 minutes.  i googled and read that after it does this once, it wont do it again.  only problem is, im doing the rewriting on my test pc and not my arcade cab.  i read something about moving the nvram file and that should take care of it.  is that true?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: 8way on August 14, 2007, 12:15:16 am
okay, finally got it to pull up.  only now its "rewriting" and will be for the next 18 minutes.  i googled and read that after it does this once, it wont do it again.  only problem is, im doing the rewriting on my test pc and not my arcade cab.  i read something about moving the nvram file and that should take care of it.  is that true?

Yes that’s exactly true. I would save the nvram files from each CPS3 game, after running them once. Each one takes about 20-30mins but at least you only do it once.
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: xmenxmen on August 15, 2007, 04:28:21 pm
So does it work?  I haven't had a chance to try it out yet...

Indeed it does! Played it in 0.117 and it works beautifully. Apparently, "Video emulation is not 100%," but unless you know exactly what isn't "100%" you probably won't notice.  :)

Try the NO-CD version, otherwise you'll need to sit there for ages while it installs itself.

Just to get myself clarified, the no-cd version doesn't work in mame, right.  BTW, I am just asking and already have the chd version work just fine.  Last I tried the no-cd only work in the nebula, right?
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: The Chugnut on August 15, 2007, 06:18:30 pm
So does it work?  I haven't had a chance to try it out yet...

Indeed it does! Played it in 0.117 and it works beautifully. Apparently, "Video emulation is not 100%," but unless you know exactly what isn't "100%" you probably won't notice.  :)

Try the NO-CD version, otherwise you'll need to sit there for ages while it installs itself.

Just to get myself clarified, the no-cd version doesn't work in mame, right.  BTW, I am just asking and already have the chd version work just fine.  Last I tried the no-cd only work in the nebula, right?

I don't know about the Nebula CP3 emulator, I haven't felt the need to try it.

I don't have any CHDs, this is purely the NO-CD version running in MAME v0.118:
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8185/sfiiinocdro5.th.png) (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8185/sfiiinocdro5.png)
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: xmenxmen on August 16, 2007, 06:42:15 pm
Interesting.  Definitely need to check it out.  Last time I tried with the no-cd and 117, it give me the chd error.  Wonder if it's the version of the no-cd I have or 117.  Guess once I try it, I'll find out. 
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: Trebeck on August 16, 2007, 06:55:16 pm
Just got SF3 to work and it runs great on my cab's old pc.

-Beck
Title: Re: Holy Frikkin Crap! Cps3 Emulation!
Post by: IG-88 on August 17, 2007, 06:30:56 pm
Just got SF3 to work and it runs great on my cab's old pc.

-Beck

Whats your old PC specs?