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Title: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: shorthair on June 01, 2007, 03:58:15 pm
This posting is to cover all the bases. Maybe Andy will see this:

I have a Billabs 27" pentamode and an AVGA. When I use the following Mame resolutions in Mame: 256x240 (for 256x224 games), 352x256 (for 256x240 games - 256x240 zooms the image way up close with loss off the screen), and 336x240 (for indytemp) - my Billabs will default to 620x244. The problem is each res needs different geometry settings. Is this a monitor issue, strictly?
Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: RayB on June 01, 2007, 11:49:35 pm
You basically have to choose a sizing that accomodates most resolution modes, OR set MAME to force all games to the same resolution.

Read this in its entirety:
http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/monitors.html

Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: shorthair on June 02, 2007, 12:18:15 am
I remember reading some about this, at Ultimarc I think. Strangely, Soft-15khz doesn't do this with my monitor. Need more testing.
Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: northerngames on June 02, 2007, 08:04:26 pm
have you tried the AVRES TOOL?
Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: shorthair on June 03, 2007, 05:41:27 pm
Yes, I have. It seems that my monitor will display more than one resolution in one 'resolution'. That is, when I select a res in Mame, when the game is run the monitor OSD shows a different resolution and groups a few of the Mame res's within that one mode.

Avres makes the same Mame resolution for various games: 352x256 in Mame for games that have res's of 224x256, 240x256, and some others (all of which the monitor OSD will put in 640x224). In the case of 224x256 (say, Congo Bongo or Gyruss), I chose 352x264 in Mame, and this made the monitor do 320x250, so I can size those differently from games of 240x256. But some horizontal games, such as indiana jones or robotron also are 640x224 on the monitor, and sizing of these interferes with the sizing of 240x256 games.
Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: RayB on June 03, 2007, 05:49:46 pm
When you talk about "sizing" are you referring to tweaking the H and V sizing with the monitor's sizing controls?
Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: shorthair on June 04, 2007, 03:49:54 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: RayB on June 05, 2007, 01:30:20 pm
OK well then you have to pick a sizing that kinda fits all of the resolutions.  Unless your specific monitor has "memory" for all different resolutions...
Title: Re: AVGA or monitor issue?
Post by: shorthair on June 05, 2007, 06:14:25 pm
Yeah. I remember reading about this but wanted to know a little more. Below is Andy's response, adding to yours.

...that means that the parameters of the two resolutions are not sufficiently different for the monitor to recognise them as different resolutions. Various monitors distinguish between resolutions in different ways with different levels of granularity of H freq, V freq etc. Not sure this can be fixed unfortunately.