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Title: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: geomartin on May 02, 2007, 01:17:59 am
I just wanted to let everyone interested know that the new Rush album "Snakes and Arrows" was released today.  I picked it up this morning, and I must say that it is the best Rush album to come along in a while.  Definitely worth a listen.

Thanks,
Geo
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shmokes on May 02, 2007, 03:07:30 am
Does they still have that same wannabe drummer?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: lordtodd75 on May 02, 2007, 08:55:28 am
Neil Peart never could hold a beat, don't even get me started on his chops. Pffffw  ::)
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: JONTHEBOMB on May 02, 2007, 07:50:32 pm
Rush is an excellent band. :notworthy:  I have heard one song played on the radio from their new album.  I hope to purchase the new album some time this year.

Does they still have that same wannabe drummer?
Neil Peart never could hold a beat, don't even get me started on his chops. Pffffw  ::)

Neil Peart is a great drummer.  Have you guys ever listened to the song "YYZ" that has some amazing drum work in it.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shmokes on May 02, 2007, 10:02:38 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Howard_Casto on May 02, 2007, 10:14:11 pm
I guess every band does have at least one fan.  Rush.... pfffft  lol

carry on mullett patrol, carry on!   :)
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Justin Z on May 02, 2007, 10:21:34 pm
Neil Peart is an great drummer.  Have you guys ever listened to the song "YYZ" that has some amazing drum work in it.
Whoooooooosh! ;)
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: JONTHEBOMB on May 03, 2007, 12:01:26 am
Here is a youtube video of Rush in concert playing "YYZ":

Go about halfway through the video and you can see Neil Peart's drumming skills. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iONLKn5VHY4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iONLKn5VHY4)

Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shmokes on May 03, 2007, 12:25:28 am
Whooooooosh!   ;)
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Zero_Hour on May 03, 2007, 01:19:26 am
Rush.... pfffft  lol

And you would recommend...?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: geomartin on May 03, 2007, 01:22:11 pm
I agree that there seems to be no middle ground with Rush's music.  People either love it or hate it, there are not too many casual listeners.  I believe it does say alot for Rush that they are still generating new material when most bands still active from this generation are releasing greatest hits albums or doing nostalgia tours!
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: pointdablame on May 03, 2007, 02:09:59 pm
Whoooooooosh! ;)

Whooooooosh!   ;)


 :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:


And stop sticking up for him JONTHEBOMB.  We all know that Neil Peart sucks
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: ChadTower on May 03, 2007, 02:13:07 pm

Now if they could only release some instrumental versions of their stuff... great work, great music, suckass WTF is he talking about lyrics.

This really is the greatest Rush album in a long time.  At least since their last one.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shmokes on May 03, 2007, 02:28:46 pm
I'm actually not really a Rush fan.  Loved them when I was in high school, but can't listen to them anymore. 
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: ChadTower on May 03, 2007, 02:32:28 pm

I'm Canadian.  It is required.  You're allowed to tool on Brian Adams, you're allowed to say "I was an Alanis fan for her first album only", but you must be a Rush fan.  If you are not they revoke your maple leaf.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: geomartin on May 03, 2007, 04:00:20 pm
What do you cover your privates with once they revoke your Maple Leaf?  Do fig trees grow in the frosty cold great white north?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: (+_+) on May 03, 2007, 04:07:05 pm
Does they still have that same wannabe drummer?

Are you kidding me, He's in a league of his own. He's precise, crisp and sounds like he plays with an extra arm or 2. I remember hearing more than once that, man for man, they are the best rock band around. Remember, they only have 3 guys in the band, but it sounds like they have 5.

Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: ChadTower on May 03, 2007, 04:13:39 pm
What do you cover your privates with once they revoke your Maple Leaf?  Do fig trees grow in the frosty cold great white north?

A pine needle.  It doesn't work very well.

Will you guys stop eating shmokes' bait?  Geez, man.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: JONTHEBOMB on May 03, 2007, 05:56:20 pm
Can anybody shout out some drummers that they consider to be great?

I seriously don't understand how you guys can be against Neil Peart. :dunno
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: DaveMMR on May 03, 2007, 06:31:23 pm
I guess every band does have at least one fan.  Rush.... pfffft  lol

carry on mullett patrol, carry on!   :)

You're thinking of Loverboy.  Rush ditched the mullets sometime in the 80's.

I'm actually not really a Rush fan.  Loved them when I was in high school, but can't listen to them anymore. 

Same here.  Was a big Rush fan up until around "Counterparts".   Still think they're a really good band - but never really kept up with their new stuff, and can only really listen to them in small doses.

Can anybody shout out some drummers that they consider to be great?

That one-armed dude from Def Leppard?

 
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shmokes on May 03, 2007, 06:50:28 pm
Whooooooosh!  ;)

Whooooooosh!  ;)


Cos he's just so sucky.  He thinks that he can impress people by spending a bunch of money on a drum set with so many percussions that it surrounds him and looks more like an office than anything else.  What a poser.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: pointdablame on May 03, 2007, 07:53:57 pm
watch out shmokes, you caught another one!!


whooooooosh!!
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Zero_Hour on May 03, 2007, 08:05:39 pm
Can anybody shout out some drummers that they consider to be great?

Buddy Rich.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: ChadTower on May 03, 2007, 08:15:50 pm

Stephen Adler.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shmokes on May 03, 2007, 08:31:54 pm
Green Day's drummer.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 03, 2007, 11:08:42 pm
Depends on your definition (and musical preference): many would say someone like Terry Bozio, who can do four-part poly-rhythmic/poly-metric stuff...but is it musical? Being able to play rhythm doesn't inherently mean you can compose it.

But Neil's a good drummer.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: DrumAnBass on May 04, 2007, 02:02:03 am
I was fortunate enough to study under a guy named Jeff Campitelli; who has been Joe Satriani's drummer for the past 25 years. Although Satriani requires the drums to take back seat to the guitar, Jeff is an amazing drummer.

Neil Peart is amazing. Others who have been inspirational to me:
Keith Moon
John Bonham
Stewart Copeland
David Garibaldi
Terry Bozzio
Jonathan Mover
Vinnie Colaiuta
Simon Phillips
Alex VanHalen

Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: JackTucky on May 04, 2007, 12:05:16 pm
What do you call that guy that rides with the band?  The drummer

=J "old joke guy"
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: DrumAnBass on May 04, 2007, 02:04:06 pm
Q: What is the difference between a drummer and a vacuum cleaner?
A: You have to plug one of them in before it sucks.

Q: Why do drummers have pea-sized brains?
A: Because alcohol has swelled them.

Q: How do you call a drummer?
A: You can't. They don't pay their phone bill.

Q: What is the difference between a drummer and a savings bond?
A: One will mature and make money.

Q: What is the first thing that a drummer does when he wakes up?
A: He rolls over and introduces himself.

Q: What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?
A: "Hey guys, why don't we try one of my songs?"
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shardian on May 04, 2007, 02:49:12 pm
Tim "Don't call me Herb anymore" Alexander
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: JackTucky on May 04, 2007, 02:59:29 pm
Q: What is the difference between a drummer and a vacuum cleaner?
A: You have to plug one of them in before it sucks.

Q: Why do drummers have pea-sized brains?
A: Because alcohol has swelled them.

Q: How do you call a drummer?
A: You can't. They don't pay their phone bill.

Q: What is the difference between a drummer and a savings bond?
A: One will mature and make money.

Q: What is the first thing that a drummer does when he wakes up?
A: He rolls over and introduces himself.

Q: What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?
A: "Hey guys, why don't we try one of my songs?"


 :laugh2:
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 04, 2007, 10:30:23 pm
I thought all but the last were actually the stereo-typical guitarist.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 08, 2007, 11:04:23 am
Whooooooosh!  ;)

Whooooooosh!  ;)


Cos he's just so sucky.  He thinks that he can impress people by spending a bunch of money on a drum set with so many percussions that it surrounds him and looks more like an office than anything else.  What a poser.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!    :laugh2:
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 08, 2007, 11:26:58 am
Chiming in a little late here, been busy.  :)

I did a cover of "Chemistry" on two Roland TD7 kits, strung together to form one mondo, Neil Peartish kit.  I no longer have those - got some real drums now.  ;)


“Chemistry” is a result of my drumming and some guy I don't know doing the rest!  I "met" him through a Rush Internet newsletter (he and the singer live in Jersey) and we “talked,” via e-mail, of doing a cover of a Rush tune.  We decided on "Chemistry" (Signals - 1982; track #3).  I did my part and e-mailed off the 50+ megabyte .WAV file to him to complete.  The entire track was done via e-mail in 1995.  On 56k.  :P

So, this is me, real time, with no click or accompaniment by a CD, do all the drumming - playing strictly from my head. 

Tell me what you think of the playing, or not.   :dunno

http://members.aol.com/texasmame/chemcover.mp3 (http://members.aol.com/texasmame/chemcover.mp3)
(right click and save or whatever it is you kids do)

John in TX
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Glaine on May 08, 2007, 11:51:00 am
I love the way Kaizers Orchestra performs. They are a band from Norway and I don't know if the drummer is all that great per say, but the way him and that crazy looking "paino" player get down, I can't help but have a good time.

Take a look:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1373144526001523992&q=kaizers+orchestra+live

PS - Everything I've heard from Rush is gold, but I haven't heard their new stuff so I wouldn't know about that.

You know what else gets everyone into a controversy? Freebird. I'm so sick of that song, but so many swear by it.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: DrumAnBass on May 08, 2007, 09:32:37 pm
TexasMame/John - Nice playing! Hard to nail those parts, especially playing solo... TD7's eh? Classic! I sold my '69 Ludwig acoustics and now play on a Clavia Ddrum4 electronic kit... Kept all my cymbals of course for gigging. Somewhere I have a cassette of me playing YYZ with a band I played in years ago...
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 08, 2007, 09:47:30 pm
TexasMame/John - Nice playing! Hard to nail those parts, especially playing solo... TD7's eh? Classic! I sold my '69 Ludwig acoustics and now play on a Clavia Ddrum4 electronic kit... Kept all my cymbals of course for gigging. Somewhere I have a cassette of me playing YYZ with a band I played in years ago...

Thanx!  I rush a couple spots, especially the end fills but hey. . .

Yeah, I had two of them connected together.  Traded one for a Ludwig "Butcher Block" kit and sold the other.  Eventually, sold the Ludwigs, for my current kit (both pictured here).  It hasn't been unpacked since moving, tho.   :'(
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: DrumAnBass on May 09, 2007, 02:13:36 pm
Nice set! Dunno how you have room for your arcade collection and your drums... Wish we had basements in California...!
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: sirwoogie on May 09, 2007, 02:25:53 pm
always wanted to be a drummer... to old to start now. Did brass in HS. Can't get my hands and feet to work independently no matter how much I try during airdrum sessions.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 09, 2007, 04:17:31 pm
always wanted to be a drummer... to old to start now. Did brass in HS. Can't get my hands and feet to work independently no matter how much I try during airdrum sessions.

It's curious how often brass and percussion are mixed, sometimes played by the same person.

Texas: nice toms. Double-kick pedal?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 09, 2007, 05:41:26 pm
Nice set! Dunno how you have room for your arcade collection and your drums... Wish we had basements in California...!

Heh. The arcade collection was on the finished side of the basement; drums unfinished.  Arcade/Atari collections were sold prior to my moving from NH.  No basements in Texas either.  :(
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 09, 2007, 05:44:08 pm
always wanted to be a drummer... to old to start now. Did brass in HS. Can't get my hands and feet to work independently no matter how much I try during airdrum sessions.

It's curious how often brass and percussion are mixed, sometimes played by the same person.

Texas: nice toms. Double-kick pedal?

Yes, DW double kick.  You can't really tell in the pics, but the hi-hat is a remote hi-hat (DW remote cable) , set in fairly close and low to me.  Just prefer it there - easier for crossovers.  :)
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 09, 2007, 05:49:35 pm
always wanted to be a drummer... to old to start now. Did brass in HS. Can't get my hands and feet to work independently no matter how much I try during airdrum sessions.

I'm pretty lucky in that drumming just comes naturally.  With few exceptions, if I can hear it, I can play it.  Maybe not right away, but after working on it a bit, I can usually get anything that is thrown at me, provided it's interesting to me (no Dream Theater for example).   :cheers:
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 09, 2007, 10:06:03 pm
Dream Schmeater, bah.  Yeah, I've heard of that kind of hi-hat, T. Sounds neat. How do you feel about the response of two mallets on one kick when doing triplets and stuff?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 09, 2007, 11:33:34 pm
Dream Schmeater, bah.  Yeah, I've heard of that kind of hi-hat, T. Sounds neat. How do you feel about the response of two mallets on one kick when doing triplets and stuff?

Never had a problem with it.  Then again, I've never used two independant kicks.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 10, 2007, 03:05:15 am
So what stuff do you play?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: ChadTower on May 10, 2007, 10:24:44 am
Never had a problem with it.  Then again, I've never used two independant kicks.

I do... in fact, I only do kicks.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 10, 2007, 07:18:56 pm
Funny, today, as I was riding my bike through a medical clinic sort of district, I smelled what distinctly seemed the aroma of crystal meth manufacture. Smelled fairly clean as such things go, too.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: sodapopinski on May 11, 2007, 08:12:48 am
Neil Peart is amazing, zeppelin considered him as a bonham replacement for a reason. hey Drumanbass, what about Nick Mason?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: DrumAnBass on May 12, 2007, 08:57:11 pm
Doh! Totally should have had Nick Mason in my list.  :banghead:

Not a very technical player but certainly inspirational and influential in the evolution of rock drums. Nick's memoir, "Inside Out: A Personal History of Pink Floyd" is a fascinating read! He admits to being envious of Keith Moon's wild drumming. If you ever get a chance to see it, Nick's playing in the film "Pink Floyd: Live in Pompeii" is excellent.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 12, 2007, 09:21:17 pm
As with any instrument, the drumming (or percussion, depending) has to fit the context. There are various degrees of success. Coroner's album Mental Vortex is an example of tasty drumming - double kick when necessary, surrounded by lightly syncopated, and even simple, beats - that complement and complete the pieces. Master of Puppets is close in this regard - whereas Justice blew, drum-wise.
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 12, 2007, 11:56:16 pm
So what stuff do you play?

You mean brand names on the equipment or tunes/groups?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 13, 2007, 10:57:14 pm
So what stuff do you play?

You mean brand names on the equipment or tunes/groups?

Tunes
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 14, 2007, 05:17:39 pm
Pretty much anything.  I usually only play tunes that are fun/challenging to play alone since I just play with myself.  :laugh2:

Subdivisions, Limelight, Time Stand Still, Red Barchetta, and Time and Motion all by Rush get regular plays.  I also like "Heartbreaker" by Pat Benetar and "Running in the Family" by Level 42.  Whatever pops into my head, really.

Sometimes I'll just solo/jam/practice with the bass foot hitting the downstroke and the hi-hat foot hitting the upstroke and my hands just playing whatever feels good on top of that. 

I can't, however, do "The Drum also Waltzes" part of Neil's solo, with the bass/hat/hat, bass/hat/hat thing going on.  I can do it when it's just my feet, but when I throw hands into it, I'm screwed.   :)
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 14, 2007, 07:13:16 pm
You have to develop your limbs, polyphonically. This actually starts in hearing polyphonically. And, no Pantera, etc?!
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 15, 2007, 11:28:52 pm
I don't have a problem with limb Independence in general but that one thing does throw me pretty good.   :dunno

Pantera?  Umm, no.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 16, 2007, 02:26:52 am
What are you using a double-kick set of pedals for, then?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 16, 2007, 12:53:31 pm
Heh.  Mostly just quick triplet fills.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 16, 2007, 04:35:22 pm
For what?
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 16, 2007, 06:56:16 pm
Uh, for fun???   :dizzy:
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 16, 2007, 09:46:15 pm
No, silly, in what music? Are you adding it to other bands' music you play?...etc...
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: Texasmame on May 16, 2007, 11:30:17 pm
Oh.   :)

Mostly for Rush stuff but, on occasion, I love to overplay the hell outta "Every Breath You Take" for example.   8)
Title: Re: Attention RUSH fans.
Post by: shorthair on May 17, 2007, 01:01:51 am
No metal makes a boy narrow. Alas. I for years wanted to do a heavy version of 'Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic', but never got around to it. Then, some (largely) online-promoting band did it...well, sorta...they're, like, new rock. It's still tasty but not as cool as mine would've been.

The other thing about Rush (and many other bands then and since) is their production, particularly of the drums, stayed kinda rock. I mean, some scooped mid (or even the other way, Carcass Heartwork) guitar would've been killer. Of course, that's partly where bands like Dillinger Escape Plan and such come in. Anyways, Neil's drum sounds, especially the kick, didn't have that solid, marching band kind of sound. Enter Pantera and Sepultura: both Vinnie's and Igor's kicks and toms were ---smurfin--- tough-sounding.

And both had some good kick syncopated stuff - a fave of mine is Igor's stuff on Arise. That album is epic, especially cos of his drumming.