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Title: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: Squeeky on May 01, 2007, 12:40:46 am
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/Squeeky4711/ControlPanel.jpg)

Ok well I think I figured out CP layout.  This gives me 7 buttons for each player (Neo Geo Friendly), each player will have a coin & player button.

3" Trackball in the center, however I chose to minimize buttons and not wire mouse buttons.

Above trackball a 4 way, Arknoid Spinner (Already owned), and 2 buttons for 4way play (spaced a little further apart, similar to 80's games)

Along each side will consist of 2 buttons (both black)
   Left side (left flipper, and shazaaam dedicated)
   Right side (right flipper, and fire pinball)

I intend on wiring admin buttons to P1 buttons 4-7, making a small direction card for bezel.

The reason I chose to go all blue is because I intend on using standard pushbuttons with LEDs, from examples I've seen blue looks the best in my opinion.


Assuming I follow the plan above, is there anything I left out or should ad?  Being my first MaMe build I don't want to go too detailed, but make it worth the build.

Thanks
Squeeky

 
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: leapinlew on May 01, 2007, 12:43:18 am
At my house, playing Golden Tee, Shuffleshot, and World Class Bowling - both your spinner and 4 way are in the way of the trackball path. Also, where are the pinball nudge buttons? How wide is this control panel? Seems a bit wide for pinball.

I realize your going for symmetry, but anything above the trackball is begging to be hit.
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: Squeeky on May 01, 2007, 12:58:01 am
Well I did not plan for pinball nudge buttons, as if the ball is stuck I could set a P1 button for nudge and move my hand back.  I don't really play pinball, but I didn't want to leave out the option.

Control panel size and shape is based off Knievel's which is 34" wide.  The actual CP box is only 33"
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: leapinlew on May 01, 2007, 01:00:15 am
The nudge feature is similar to bumping the machine. If I remember correctly, the game offers a few nudge options. Nudge from the right, left and center. Maybe someone more familiar with the button layout can clarify.

As for the spinner and 4 way - they are in the way of the trackball. Only a matter of time before someone cranks their hand on the spinner or 4 way.
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: Chris G on May 01, 2007, 11:27:04 am
How deep is it?  34" x ??
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: psychotech on May 01, 2007, 11:49:14 am
Hi there!

And well, I'd add the nudge buttons anyway - you can always use them as admin buttons.. I wouldn't place the shazaaam! button near a flipper button, though.

I used miniature buttons for the nudges on my bartop: big yellow = right flipper, mini yellow = nudge from right and mini blue = front nudge. See the picture ->

(http://www.telemail.fi/psychotech/big_ugly/124.jpg)

All the best :)

Psychotech
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: Squeeky on May 01, 2007, 02:19:05 pm
It's 34" x 14", I just don't know what to do with the spinner and 4way.  I'm extremely into symmetry so I want it to look good.  As far as the nudge buttons I might add them anyway, whats another $3 when I'm spending $100 on parts for control panel alone.
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: leapinlew on May 01, 2007, 02:23:06 pm
It's 34" x 14", I just don't know what to do with the spinner and 4way.  I'm extremely into symmetry so I want it to look good.  As far as the nudge buttons I might add them anyway, whats another $3 when I'm spending $100 on parts for control panel alone.

$100? Your doing pretty good. That looks like a $300 cp to me.

Would you rather have symmetry over gameplay? The defender control panel must be a mess to you. If anything, the 4 way needs to be in the center of the screen since thats how a 4 way was traditionally used (as was the spinner).

As a possibility - consider a swappable panel. You could also use Ultimarc 360's to double as both your 8 way and 4 way and you can eliminate a stick.

You do what you want, I just now that people would physically get hurt with that setup at my house.
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: Squeeky on May 01, 2007, 08:35:47 pm
If I kept the current setup and just moved the trackball to the lowest point, and 4-way/spinner to highest.  How much distance would one recommend between the trackball and a joy?
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: leapinlew on May 01, 2007, 09:28:49 pm
If I kept the current setup and just moved the trackball to the lowest point, and 4-way/spinner to highest.  How much distance would one recommend between the trackball and a joy?

The way my friends play? 30" - 36". That trackball can't go to much lower because of the housing.

Do this, build a mockup out of cardboard and see if it works for you.
Title: Re: CP Layout submitted for approval
Post by: fjl on May 02, 2007, 01:32:22 am
Hi there!

And well, I'd add the nudge buttons anyway - you can always use them as admin buttons.. I wouldn't place the shazaaam! button near a flipper button, though.

I used miniature buttons for the nudges on my bartop: big yellow = right flipper, mini yellow = nudge from right and mini blue = front nudge. See the picture ->

(http://www.telemail.fi/psychotech/big_ugly/124.jpg)

All the best :)

Psychotech

Hey I love your retro design, that looks really cool. Like soemthing from the sixties. Can you post more pictures of it?

EDIT: Oh wait, didn't realize that was just a bar top. Still cool though.  :cheers: