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Title: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: Marky_1979 on April 17, 2007, 10:07:16 am
On my current cab I am using a TV which will be behind a monitor bezel to hide the fact its a tv. The main problem with this is I can not access the tv whilst its in this state and due to my tv not remembering what channel it was last on and not detecting an av signal automatically like most tv's I have to turn on with remote and then flick the av button 3 times to get it on the right channel.

I think that If I hack my remote and place two possibly more buttons on the side of my cab for tv power on and channel swithching av button I can get round this problem what are your thoughts guys?

I have included a pic of remote minus the case and need advice as to solder which wire to which connection.

Many thanks in advance

Marky
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: mountain on April 17, 2007, 10:15:51 am
You will probably have more luck hacking the buttons on the front of the TV. They should be surface mounted on a PCB which will allow you to solder wires to more easily. Plus, you wont have to worry about changing the batteries   ;)
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: MustardTent on April 17, 2007, 10:21:31 am
I hacked my remote at first as well.  I soldered buttons to it and extended the IR LED so that it sat behind the bezel.  I also added a small 3v power supply so I wouldn't have to worry about batteries.

It was a fun little project, but I ended up cracking open the TV so I could just solder my buttons to it directly.  I think I still have the hacked remote though.
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: MustardTent on April 17, 2007, 10:28:50 am
Here's the thread I started (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=40250.0).

Nobody really cared at the time.
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: Marky_1979 on April 17, 2007, 10:36:45 am
The way I see it is if it goes wrong I can replace a remote control. I dont really wanna start breaking into the tv to get to the buttons plus there is no a/v selection button on the tv case unfortunately
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: SavannahLion on April 17, 2007, 10:39:32 am
That would be an interesting excercise for a tiny microcontroller.

It'd be even more interesting if you added USB capabilities so the PC could power on and reconfigure the T.V. everytime it started.

Not sure how you would handle a situation if you get the T.V. into an incorrect state.
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: MustardTent on April 17, 2007, 10:41:31 am
I don't think there's a real problem with hacking the remote instead of the TV -- it works just fine.

Are you planning on integrating the controls with your cab, or are you going to use the remote normally (ie. in hand)?
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: Marky_1979 on April 17, 2007, 10:47:38 am
Sorry Mustard I must be having a dumb moment what do you mean exactly?

And Mountain could you also elaborate on what you were saying
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: JustMichael on April 17, 2007, 10:53:26 am
Forgive me for stating the obvious but have you tried using a "USB IR Blaster" to have the pc change the tv to the correct channel or video input each time the pc is turned on?
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: Marky_1979 on April 17, 2007, 10:55:59 am
That sounds ideal more infor please. Is there a web site?
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: MustardTent on April 17, 2007, 11:00:55 am
The IR blaster is nice, but not nearly as fun to do (no hacking required). 

Anyway, what I meant was that if you were to use the remote as your manner of controlling the TV, you could solder pushbuttons to the PCB in the remote and incorporate TV controls in your CP (mine are underneath -- 3 buttons: power, vol up, vol down).

Or, you could just use the remote as you normally would.
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: Marky_1979 on April 17, 2007, 11:30:58 am
Yes if this IR Blaster isn't what im looking for im definately looking at doing that 4 buttons POWER, VOL + VOL - and A/V CHANNEL CHANGE. If I were to go down this route how would I do that?

Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: Marky_1979 on April 17, 2007, 06:57:10 pm
If Iwere to hack the remote which end is the ground and which the one I connect to the push button?
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: mountain on April 17, 2007, 07:00:19 pm
Ground does not matter here. You just want to "emulate" what the remote button does. Just connect each wire from the button to either contact on the remote.
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: NickG on April 17, 2007, 07:05:56 pm
if one side of the contacts even goes to "ground" you should be able to register a button press by shorting a wire from the battery minus (cathode) and the other side of the contact, and touching the other side of the contact pad should not do anything - if it really already is shorted to ground by a PCB trace...
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: mountain on April 17, 2007, 07:20:12 pm
if one side of the contacts even goes to "ground" you should be able to register a button press by shorting a wire from the battery minus (cathode) and the other side of the contact, and touching the other side of the contact pad should not do anything - if it really already is shorted to ground by a PCB trace...

Duplicating the original button press is the safest, most logical way to do it. I would not assume that one side of the remote button 'pad' is ground. It may be a grid like on a keyboard or it could possibly be a multi-plex circuit.
Title: Re: Hacking a Remote control
Post by: Marky_1979 on April 17, 2007, 08:56:54 pm
That sounds good I would still like to hear about these other options namely the ir blaster thing and this micro controller with usb option that was also mentioned they sound very interesting.

My main aim ultimately is to turn on the cab with one button and get the tv on the right channel and if needed change setting without having to cut into bezel or access the tv physically.