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Title: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Jeff AMN on March 26, 2007, 01:19:20 am
Well, I'm using a Radeon 9800 Pro video card and the ATI DVI to Component adapter (which says it works with the 9800 series of cards), but I can't connect the adapter to the video card because the pins don't line up. Below I have two (fuzzy) pics of what I'm trying to explain. Does anybody know what's going on here? Is there a way around this, or am I just screwed? I can't do s-video out because the TV I'm using only supports component.

Here's the PC side...Note that the pins are aligned like this -- : ::::::::

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jar155/BYOAC/PCDVI.jpg)

Here's the adapter end...Note that the pins are different:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jar155/BYOAC/DVIAdapter.jpg)

Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: NickG on March 26, 2007, 03:55:11 am
one way round it is to use the VGA output connector -if your 9800 has one- instead of the DVI-D output connection.  You can get a VGA to component transcoder for about 35 USD.
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Fozzy The Bear on March 26, 2007, 06:06:01 am
Well, I'm using a Radeon 9800 Pro video card and the ATI DVI to Component adapter

2 things to do....

First, describe what it is that doesn't line up. Your photographs are way too fuzzy to make it out.

second, you could try contacting ATI Technical Support. It's their card and their cable. They should be able to answer you.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: TOK on March 26, 2007, 06:47:05 am
I'm using a generic adapter with a Radeon 9550, but I'm working right now... If it helps, I'll pull it off later and see whether its the DVI port or the adapter which is the oddball on your setup.
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Teebor on March 26, 2007, 08:13:37 am
Your ATI card has a DVI-D (Digital Only output) port on the back of it and you are trying to use a DVI-I adapter (which supports both Analog and Digital) which is why it is not fitting because of the absent analog part in your digital output on the ATI card.

Sadly this does mean you cannot use the card with any monitor other than ones that specifically take the digital input i.e. Some flat panel monitors, Most Plasma Screens and LCD TV's

You could find out if your card does component out from the roud connector on the card, OR you can google for a wiring diagram to build your own connector to the 15HD (standard monitor connector) so you can build your own 15ping HD plug to Scart (which works quite well)
Or you may even find information to connect the DVI port to the scart directly.

Failing that I can't think of anything else, mainly because I haven't done it myself.
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: AMDman13 on March 26, 2007, 08:41:18 am
ATI makes a dongle for DVI to component. It should be available on the ATI website.
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Teebor on March 26, 2007, 09:27:06 am
You mean this one?

http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2537967

Wrong type of connector so it won't fit its the same as he already has.

Although you could do this one instead

http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2537968

But you could probably make one yourself for cheaper or buy it on ebay
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Jeff AMN on March 26, 2007, 09:39:39 am
ATI makes a dongle for DVI to component. It should be available on the ATI website.

Yeah, that's the one I'm using. ATi says it works with my card, but it obviously doesn't.

Thanks Teebor, I'll look into those options.
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: BobA on March 26, 2007, 09:49:38 am
Just to make it easier to follow here is a pic of the 2 connectors in question.

Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Knievel on March 26, 2007, 09:50:34 am
 
Jeff I think you'd be better off just picking up the correct vid card. I'm runnng a ATI Radeon 9600 with that same adapter. I think the card cost me $20-30 bucks on eBay.

Amazing pictre BTW, so much sharper than S-vid.
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Jeff AMN on March 26, 2007, 09:53:50 am

Jeff I think you'd be better off just picking up the correct vid card. I'm runnng a ATI Radeon 9600 with that same adapter. I think the card cost me $20-30 bucks on eBay.

Amazing pictre BTW, so much sharper than S-vid.

Heh, I'm actually checking eBay right now...

It's not a big loss. I actually already had the 9800 card just sitting around from even before I got my cabinet started. Still, it's a hassle that I'd rather not have had to deal with. Little setbacks like these feel like an eternity to overcome when this close to finishing.
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Knievel on March 26, 2007, 10:08:19 am

It's frustrating alright, just be thankful you're in the US.
When I need a part for something it's usually a 2 week wait, if Customs doesn't pinch it. Then it's a month. :P
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: gnateye on March 26, 2007, 10:23:28 am
Just to make it easier to follow here is a pic of the 2 connectors in question.



sadly the manufacturers dont fully explain the differences i the DVI connectors, and most stores and websites just lumpthem all into one "DVI" connector, much to the chagrin of those of us that have tv's with DVI inputs....

needless to say i have been victim to this mis-information in the past....

good luck with your issues
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Jeff AMN on March 26, 2007, 10:29:16 am
So just to be sure, the DVI out on the 9600 cards will work with my ATi DVI to Component adapter, right? I'm going to put in a bid on a card right now...
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Knievel on March 26, 2007, 10:41:19 am

This is like the one I have Jeff, it's a genuine ATI 9600 card with that same part#..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200093450827 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200093450827)
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: Jeff AMN on March 26, 2007, 10:59:16 am
Thanks, I ordered the card.

"The waiting is the hardest part. Every day you see one more card."
Title: Re: Help! DVI --> Component Adapter Problem (pics inside)
Post by: PaulG on March 26, 2007, 08:14:48 pm
Are you sure you have the right adapter?  I used the DVI-Component dongle with my Radeon 9800.  The dongle was purple and had a bunch of pins you set for what resolutions you wanted activated (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, Widescreen).