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Arcade Collecting => Miscellaneous Arcade Talk => Topic started by: squirrellydw on February 19, 2007, 05:45:32 pm

Title: Power Supply and Monitor for GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on February 19, 2007, 05:45:32 pm
How do I know what power supply I need for the Galaxy board?  I found someone on ebay that says they have some.  He said "what model do you need? they use a swiching powersupply".  Is there something I can look for on the board I bought?  Remember, I am trying to convert my Super 6 Plus 2 to a Galaxy.  I have the Galaxy board, new darthead and I think this is the last thing I need.  This is what is listed on the HAPP site.

PN# 38603 Power Supply Switching w/ Dimmer For Galaxy

thanks
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 19, 2007, 06:11:25 pm
I asked if he had the one metioned above and he said

"no, i have a powersupply that works but has no dimmer, it is a regular swhitching, 5, 12, volt"

Will that work, the dimmer is just for the lights right?
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on February 20, 2007, 02:19:47 am
All my English Mark Dart stuff is stored off-site at a friend's garage about two miles away from my apartment. I will have to wait to get to that information.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 20, 2007, 09:06:40 am
ok thanks
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 20, 2007, 05:26:12 pm
He is going to send me a picture of it in the morining.  He says it will work and the price is $40.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 21, 2007, 02:14:40 pm
any idea?
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 22, 2007, 06:04:36 pm
Here is a pic of it I have no idea if I can use it or how to wire it up?
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on February 22, 2007, 06:43:36 pm
That picture is of a conventional video game switching power supply.

I still haven't gotten over to my friend's house with my manuals yet.

In the meantime, have you checked the manuals in the archives at www.arachnidinc.com yet?
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 22, 2007, 06:46:10 pm
yeah, I did but they don't help me much.  Any idea if it would work?
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 24, 2007, 09:21:01 pm
I bought it and he is going to send me a wire harness he made also.  It should just be plug and play but I will try to verify the pin outs.  Hope it works
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on February 25, 2007, 11:40:41 pm
Ok, I've found my English Mark Dart stuff.

The "Galaxy" dart game used two different power supply assemblies during the production run. At first they used a linear power supply module that looked very much like the old Super 6 (6000 series) power supply. Then they changed to a conventional switching regulator supply just like in a video game. The gameboard uses just +5 volts and +12 volts.

The linear power supply had a dimmer circuit board mounted under it's chassis. The switching supply had a seperate dimmer circuit board mounted near the switching supply. The dimmer is not necessary for game operation. It merely illuminates the target head.

I'm about to email several Galaxy documents to arcarc.xmission.com for posting.

EDIT: I have sent the documents and he should be posting them in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 26, 2007, 09:44:51 am
So the one I posted above should work then correct?  If it works I should have everything I need I think.  Main board, new dart head and power supply.  Anything else??


Thanks
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on February 26, 2007, 11:34:52 am
Yes it'll work as the gameboard only needs +5 and +12 volts to operate.

Your target head also needs the Smart Target PC board and missed dart detector board.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 26, 2007, 01:15:01 pm
Yes it'll work as the gameboard only needs +5 and +12 volts to operate.

Your target head also needs the Smart Target PC board and missed dart detector board.

I think the target head has both of these, I will double check.  Thats all I should need then right?  I don't need that card reader do I?
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on February 26, 2007, 01:20:23 pm
Card reader was only used for leagues. You don't need it.

There's an interboard pinout/wiring diagram I sent to Bombjack/ARCARC which should be posted in the next couple of days there.

The early Galaxies were built with linear (analog) power supplies and later in the production run they switched to a switching regulator supply just like a video game.

Arachnid has a Galaxy manual on their site in the archive, but I don't know which one they posted as TWO manuals were issued. The first manual is for a Galaxy game with the linear power supply while the second manual is for a Galaxy equipped with a switching regulator power supply.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 26, 2007, 01:32:59 pm

There's an interboard pinout/wiring diagram I sent to Bombjack/ARCARC which should be posted in the next couple of days there.

I have no idea what this is??

I know the dart head I got has the missed dart detector and it looks like it has the smart target PC board.
darthead PN# 27944
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on February 26, 2007, 11:32:17 pm
Interboard = between boards. Hence wiring between board to board.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 27, 2007, 09:12:21 am
oh ok, but would would I need that for??  I only looked quickly but everything seems to just plug in.  The darthead plugs into the main board and the missed dart detector and smart target PC board are attached to the dart head.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on February 27, 2007, 10:40:08 am
That diagram shows how all the boards connect to each other and has the pinouts of each board (very helpful for the power supply hookup).

As of last night the stuff I sent to bombjack still had not been posted.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on February 27, 2007, 11:41:07 am
cool that will be very helpful.

Thanks
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: Ken Layton on March 03, 2007, 12:00:25 pm
Documents are now posted.
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on March 05, 2007, 01:12:48 pm
thanks, I will check it out this weekend
Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY, WHAT ONE??
Post by: squirrellydw on March 25, 2007, 10:10:08 pm
Hey, that power supply I bought never came, I got my money back.  So look what I just won on ebay.

Title: Re: KEN!! GALAXY POWER SUPPLY
Post by: squirrellydw on March 30, 2007, 08:07:32 pm
Just hooked everything up and it all works.  Thanks Ken you were great help, really appreciate it.  Now to build a new cabinet this summer.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: KEN!! Home made GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 01, 2007, 03:48:48 pm
One last question I hope  ;D  If I want to use a new monitor for this what would you suggest?  Would like it to be 15" or 17", color but does not have to be original?  any suggestions?

Thanks

Oh, one more question, can the galaxy board be upgraded to a Galaxy 2?  I think I saw somewhere it can be but not sure.  Like a chip or something.
Title: Re: KEN!! Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: Ken Layton on April 01, 2007, 07:14:04 pm
No, the Galaxy only generates black & white video. It wasn't until the "Black Widow" model that Arachnid went to hardware that generated color video.

The Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are totally different hardware platforms incompatible with each other.
Title: Re: KEN!! Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 01, 2007, 08:56:43 pm
ok thanks, any idea on a monitor that would work, even a computer monitor with composite video
Title: Re: KEN!! Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: Ken Layton on April 02, 2007, 12:53:01 am
Some Galaxy games were shipped with either a Magnavox "Computer Monitor 80" or a Goldstar 12" amber monitor (model numbers escape me, I've already put all the English Mark Dart stuff back in storage).
Title: Re: KEN!! Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 02, 2007, 09:37:25 am
Thanks Ken, I will look into those.
Title: Re: KEN!! Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: Ken Layton on April 02, 2007, 11:38:27 am
I think Arachnid has the service manual for the Goldstar 12" amber monitor on their website in the tech archives.
Title: Re: KEN!! Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 02, 2007, 02:36:34 pm
I think I am going to use a cheap TV with video input.  I tested it on my TV and it worked fine
Title: Re: Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 16, 2007, 09:52:26 pm
I assume I can even use a cheap LCD 4:3 tv also right?
Title: Re: Home Made GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 16, 2007, 10:12:08 pm
Will this one work, how would I hook it up?  Looking for a monitor under $200, If not I will use a cheap TV

BETSON IMPERIAL MONITORS
IMP - 13" CGA MONITOR NO ISO REQ
Item #: IMP 44-4013-02

List Price:    $179.95
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IMP - 13" CGA MONITOR NO ISO REQ
13" CGA Monitor
Specifications

    * Height: 15.75"
    * Safety Approval: C-UL, DHHS, TUV
    * Screen Size: 13"
    * Resolution: 480x240 pixels
    * Type: CGA
    * Luminance: Adjustable with user control
    * Video Bandwidth (-3dB): 12 MHz
    * Video Input Connector: Molex, 6 pins
    * Video Signal: RGB Analog Positive 1V_5VP.P
    * White Balance: x+281 +/-20 6=311+/-20
    * Horizontal:
          o Non-Linearity: 5 max.%
          o Scan Rate (Min/Typical/Max): 15.25/15.75/16.2 Hz
          o Sync Polarity: Postive/Negative/Composite
    * Vertical:
          o Geometry-Linearity: 5 max.%
          o Non-Linearity: 5%
          o Scan Rate (Min/Typical/Max): 45/60/75 Hz
          o Sync Polarity: Positive/Negative/Composite Hz
    * Misconvergence - Center (Typical/Max): 0.5/0.7mm
    * Misconvergence - Corners (Typical/Max): 1.0/1.4mm
    * Degaussing: Automatic at power up
    * Pincushion (All Brightness): 03
    * Raster Dim Adjust Range - Horizontal (Min/Max): <240/>300mm
    * Raster Dim Adjust Rnage - Vertical (Min/Max): <120/>260mm
    * User Adjustable Controls: Luminance
    * Operating Voltage Min/Max: 100/240V
    * Operating Temp Max: 10/55 C
    * Relative Humidity Operating (Min/Max): 10/90

Title: Re: Power Supply and Monitor for GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 29, 2007, 09:05:40 pm
bump, anyone, Ken?  Can I use this on the Galaxy board, how would I hook it up?
Title: Re: Power Supply and Monitor for GALAXY dart board
Post by: Ken Layton on April 30, 2007, 01:29:03 am
NO! Totally incompatible. That's a regular arcade video game monitor.

The Galaxy needs an ordinary tv with a video input jack.
Title: Re: Power Supply and Monitor for GALAXY dart board
Post by: squirrellydw on April 30, 2007, 02:29:15 pm
thanks, I just bought a 14" RCA TV with video input on ebay