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Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: diverdown on January 26, 2007, 11:39:37 pm
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Bumped as I still need help
I just bought an old ticket redemption machine called "Diggers Prize"
It was made in 1993 by cromptons (which got bought out by ICE)
It works fine except is missing one solenoid that controlls the digger's up down movement.
The idea of the game is to pick up balls in the digger, dump them into a conveyor belt which fills a hopper at the back. The more balls in the hopper the more tickets it spitz out. In my case the more balls in the hopper the more fun my son has.
Below are pics of the actual solenoid that i am missing ( its identical to the ones in the picture.
Does anyone have any ideas where to get one, or even how to jerry rig some other solenoid/valve?
any help would be appreciated.
This issue solved - but more problems ahead -- see below
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Looks like a solenoid air valve mounted on a header. Maybe you can find one that is close looking at some on the link below. The problem would be the header spacing but since they probably used a manufactured one the standard might still be used.
short link (http://www.anver.com/document/vacuum%20components/vacuum%20valves/elec_air_valvs.htm)
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I've got no help on the solenoid, but dang, that looks like a neat toy you've got there.
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http://www.mcmaster.com/ (http://www.mcmaster.com/) Page 948
Give them a call if this is not it they can probably get it.
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http://www.mcmaster.com/ (http://www.mcmaster.com/) Page 948
Give them a call if this is not it they can probably get it.
I have left the part book at work But this place looks like they may have it
thanks
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*EDIT*
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OK I solved the solenoid problem and will add a stand alone solenoid and put a blanking plate over the obsolete holes.
Now I have a new problem.
Can anyone tell me from the pics below what coin mech may have been used. The parts book i have suggests a Mars ME 111. I assume it would have been the 15 pin version as the "router board only has 16 pins available. BUT I HAVE NO IDEA.
There is no "stand alone" credit board, instead a ribbin would have gone from the coin mech to this "router" board to the main PCB that controlls everything. There is also a LCD credit display which lights up with 00 when the cab is powered.
As you can see from the pic there are some loose wires..... any idea how to tell what these are?
i would like to replace the coin mech if possible or wire up a switch if i have too.
I have no idea what wires do what......
Any guidance would be appreciated
diverdown
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bumped cos im stuck
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That appears to be a machine not intended for USA distribution. It has a "foreign" type coin door (in other words not domestic USA).
Sorry can't help you as it's not one for the USA.
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it was possibly UK in origin. But it was/is in Australia now
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it was possibly UK in origin. But it was/is in Australia now
It is UK in origin... I'll get you the specs of the mech you need and a list of UK suppliers.... Hang fire a couple of days I won't forget.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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Bear with me on this..... I'm taking the camera into work tomorrow to get you details of both the mech and the front plate that you need for this door.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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its a microcoin S5 mech-made in australia
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its a microcoin S5 mech-made in australia
It might well be.... But it's a copy of an S5 made by coin controls / Money Controls in the UK.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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Thanks to both of you. Thats graet. I am unable to reply to forum for a bit but will check back later.
It seems it is not such a good idea to tell your ISP to jam it, even if you have been with them for 4 years. Well, it was a good idea to tell them to jam it, just not such a good idea to do this before arranging connection with a new ISP.
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Gosh I love dialup internet
Is this the company but a diff mech?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/S6-MICROMECH-ELECTRONIC-COIN-MECHANISM-USED_W0QQitemZ260096790967QQcategoryZ13718QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
The machine was made in 1996.
do either of you (or anyone else ) have any clue as to what wires would do what, or at least how to work this out for myself?
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its a microcoin S5 mech-made in australia
It might well be.... But it's a copy of an S5 made by coin controls / Money Controls in the UK.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
no its completely different from the money controls sr5,in the u.k you find these coin mechs used on battery powered pool tables-riley and simply pool use them,one is set on 100us and the other 50us but i can't remember which.
as for the wiring it looks like you gonna need a schem as the wires could be anything,i would expect 4/5 coin outputs,4/5 coin inhibits,+12volt,ground and coin counter.there is no point guessing as you could cause damage to the coin mech or the game board-the only other way to do this would be using a multi meter and tracing all the wiring or changing to a credit board and c120 type mech but to do either of these you need to know what you are doing or you're gonna fry something :cry:
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Is there a differance between s5 and s6 coin mechs....... will either work if i plug them in, do they have different size ribbons or pinouts?
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crompton's are/were based in ramsgate,kent,england have you not tried to contact their tech dept,they would be able to give you the interface pinout,coin mech type and programming setup
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these are the people who make it in oz,contact them-they should have every bit of info you need
http://www.microcoin.com/display.asp?entityid=879
plus other info
http://www.ticketflex.com/Video%20Tips/MicrocoinS5.htm
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crompton's were based in ramsgate,kent,england
They went bust 10 years ago and were bought out by another Co. who were bought out by another and then another......... Diggers prize no longer exists
I have wiring diagrams and stuff, but cant read them. I will have another go, they may show points on the main PCB that will give me a clue. They specify it was a ME111 coin mech but it seems it was not so i think the paperwork will be wrong anyhow.
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there is a way round this problem,if you can identify the 10p credit line,+12volts dc and the common/ground you can use a credit board and a c120 coin controls mech with mounting plate.
the me111 coin mech uses a seperate coin output and inhibit for each coin so depending if its pre 2 pound coin you will have 4 coin outputs,4 coin inhibits,+12volts dc and ground.(sometimes also a coin common)
how good are you with a multimeter?if you can id the above then things should be very straight forwards
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MicroCoin has a web page and still exists:
http://www.microcoin.com.au
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there is a way round this problem,if you can identify the 10p credit line,+12volts dc and the common/ground you can use a credit board and a c120 coin controls mech with mounting plate.
the me111 coin mech uses a seperate coin output and inhibit for each coin so depending if its pre 2 pound coin you will have 4 coin outputs,4 coin inhibits,+12volts dc and ground.(sometimes also a coin common)
how good are you with a multimeter?if you can id the above then things should be very straight forwards
I will give this a go. There is the issue of the credit LCD...... but im happy to tackle this bit 1st
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should not affect the credit display unless its on the coin door interface board,which i doubt
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I have wiring diagrams and stuff, but cant read them. I will have another go, they may show points on the main PCB that will give me a clue. They specify it was a ME111 coin mech but it seems it was not so i think the paperwork will be wrong anyhow.
An ME111 wouldn't fit that door.... It's been changed at some point. Please find below, pictures of the stuff you need...
The front plate will fit that cutout. If you look at the side view of the front plate, you'll find that it fits the curved top and bottom with the slots for those parts that stick out top and bottom.
The mech you need is a Coin Controls SR3......
and Grant is right, that you will need a credit board. I'd recommend a "Klingon" board, becuase they're really easy to wire up to this lot and not expensive.
Micro Coin stuff, well yes you could, but we never use them, because they're WAY over priced for it.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
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thanks heaps. Im off to ebay. Can these be programmed/accept $AU coins?
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thanks heaps. Im off to ebay. Can these be programmed/accept $AU coins?
Yes, they can be programed to accept anything... we even program some chanels to accept washers and disk blanks just to exclude the chanel being used. Getting your paws on a programer box will be a difficult one though.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)