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Title: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Mugzilla on January 17, 2007, 10:45:08 pm
I have built a large 2 player arcade panel, and am looking for a smaller project.  I really don't want to mess around with a PC.

Are any of the Plug & Play games actual ports of the original arcade games?  Are any of them at least accurate representations of the coin-operated versions?

I was thinking of making a shoebox sized panel w/ Happs parts by cannibalizing one of these:

Amazon.Com Link (http://www.amazon.com/Jakks-Pacific-Toymax-Pac-Man-Game/dp/B0008JIM3U/sr=1-7/qid=1169091661/ref=sr_1_7/002-6776529-4808018?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games)

It doesn't have to be THAT SPECIFIC tv plug & play.  Preferably one with some nostalgic games on it.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 17, 2007, 11:14:30 pm
Short answer no....

Long answer...

By the very nature of the beasts they can't be direct ports.  Take your pacman example, you have a vertical game being displayed on a horizontal monitor.  Also they aren't any coin buttons on them.  Usually these games are running on a "nes on a chip" system, so basically they can be a direct port of the nes versions at best.  Things like bad sound, odd controls and bad colors are things that are reported. 

They aren't horrible ports though, they just feel like console versions rather than their true arcade counterparts.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Mugzilla on January 17, 2007, 11:27:42 pm
Are there any that would benefit from having a nice sturdy box, an authentic 4-way joysick and a real arcade fire button?  (And be worthwhile?)
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: MajorLag on January 17, 2007, 11:34:05 pm
I don't think any of the Arcade TV game things are in any way authentic, no. But at least two of the console ones, the genesis one and the Atari Flashback 2, are real hardware with the real games.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: SithMaster on January 18, 2007, 12:18:27 pm
if you get the flashback i wouldnt bother with a cab for it i would just add the cartridge port and be happy.  but thats me not you.

there is also the menacer sega plug and play for an interesting cab.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: markrvp on January 18, 2007, 03:02:42 pm
Here's one I did:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=36591.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=36591.0)
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 19, 2007, 02:30:52 am
I don't think any of the Arcade TV game things are in any way authentic, no. But at least two of the console ones, the genesis one and the Atari Flashback 2, are real hardware with the real games.

Well yeah, but those are console games, so they can actually use the same hardware chip.  The arcade ones are kinda crap though.

I agree about the flashback one though... put a cart port in it and you have a tiny atari.  Also these "super joy III" thing a ma bobs are nintendos, so you can get one with a cart port, put it in a more nes-like box and have a mini nes. 
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Naru on January 19, 2007, 02:42:49 am
Do you know how to do this?
Sounds kinda' fun.
This is new to me though,
the most console tinkering I've ever done is mod-chip.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 19, 2007, 02:51:14 am
I know how to do it, but I haven't done it.  It's a matter of buying a nos atari cart port and soldering it to the pcb.  There are plenty of sites that tell you how, but soldering 22 wires on a tiny tiny board isn't my idea of fun.  ;)

Super joys are far easier as the work is already done for you.  The hard part is finding the right one.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Naru on January 19, 2007, 03:03:22 am
I know how to do it, but I haven't done it.  It's a matter of buying a nos atari cart port and soldering it to the pcb.  There are plenty of sites that tell you how, but soldering 22 wires on a tiny tiny board isn't my idea of fun.  ;)

Super joys are far easier as the work is already done for you.  The hard part is finding the right one.

Ah, I see.
If you could please show me a link
to a place that gives good instructions to do this?
I would be thankful, and like to give it a try.
Soldering is a pain, but I find myself doing it
all the time these days.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: SithMaster on January 19, 2007, 12:01:40 pm
If i had known i could add a port to the super joy id have bought one when i had the chance.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 19, 2007, 08:52:13 pm
If i had known i could add a port to the super joy id have bought one when i had the chance.

You read that wrong.  You can't.. at least not easily.  Super Joy III and above, however have a famicom port built in.  You'll need an adaptor for US games but those are only a couple of bucks. 
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: SithMaster on January 20, 2007, 12:20:04 am
When i said super joy i meant the 3rd one, but i get not easily since it is madd small.

Problem is that wouldnt it still have the jiggling cart issue since your using a port that wears out whenever you switch games?  unless they have better ones now like for the nex.
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: Howard_Casto on January 20, 2007, 10:17:24 pm
No.... the original nes slot was defective and that's why it wore out so quickly.  The nes 2 and clones use the corrected slot, which is just as durable as more modern cart slots.  Regardless, the super joys have famicom slots, not nes slots, which never had such an issue.  Besides, if you are running american games then you'll be plugging into an adaptor plugged into the slot, so the wear would be on your 5-15 dollar adaptor and not the actual slot. 
Title: Re: Are any of the plug & play tv games actual ports of the original game?
Post by: yalborap on January 27, 2007, 02:19:35 am
No.... the original nes slot was defective and that's why it wore out so quickly.  The nes 2 and clones use the corrected slot, which is just as durable as more modern cart slots.  Regardless, the super joys have famicom slots, not nes slots, which never had such an issue.  Besides, if you are running american games then you'll be plugging into an adaptor plugged into the slot, so the wear would be on your 5-15 dollar adaptor and not the actual slot. 

It wasn't so much that they were 'defective', as a flaw in the design, really.