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Title: newb help
Post by: SpeedEng on November 29, 2006, 12:45:37 pm

im a newb I did a search but couldnt find the right answer

I have a hand me down system all set up (xp1600 with 768 pc133ram 40gb hd)
but the only OS I have is win 95 (legal of course)

ive been messing around with mame 32 on xp pro (on my dell) p4 2.5ghz and it's pretty cool

so I guess my question is will it run on win 95?
and is there anyfront ends that work with 95?
sorry I dont know anyone with illegal copies of other os nor do I want anything that is illegal. so im kinda stuck on win 95 :(

Thanks in advance for your help!!!

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: Havok on November 29, 2006, 03:08:33 pm

Mame will work just fine on Windows 95. Since you are interested in using a front end, I would recommend the command line version - less overhead.

Officially, AtomicFE works with Windows 98 and higher, but I have never tested it on 95. If I can find my Win95 CD, I'll fire it up in VirtualPC and give it a try. I'll keep you posted...

Hopefully we can get Atomic working for you. In the mean time, you can check it out here:

http://www.atomicfe.com/EN2 (http://www.atomicfe.com/EN2)

IMHO it's the best documented front end out there, complete with a troubleshooting section...

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: SpeedEng on November 29, 2006, 10:53:19 pm

Thanks Havok


I like atomic FE I been using it on the dell (xp pro my main rig) and it's great

so I will try it out this weekend and load up the os with a FE if you dont have a chance!!

But thanks for the help!!

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: Havok on November 30, 2006, 12:51:34 am

No problem! I did a quick setup, but my virtual session needs tweaking. I can tell you this so far:

1. You will need the gdiplus.dll Youki has available for download
2. You need to be running DirectX 7.0 or higher
3. It appears that AtomicFE also requires hid.dll, which is a USB driver. This means that for any chance at all for this to work in Windows 95, you will have to have release 2.1 or 2.5 (the only two that have USB support - I happen to have 2.1)

By default USB support is not enabled, even with these two releases. Check out this site to find out more about USB support, and how to determine which version of Windows 95 you have:

http://www.usbman.com/Win95%20USB%20Guide.htm (http://www.usbman.com/Win95%20USB%20Guide.htm)

Good luck, and I'll let you know what I come up with...

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: youki on November 30, 2006, 03:49:29 am

The USB support is only  for LEDWiz and GPWIZ support.

So if you don't use that device , i guess  even if your win95 doesn't support usb , if you simply copy that HID.DLL  in your windows System directory or in AtomicFe folder , it should be enough to workaround this problem.

Anyway, if we don't succeed with AtomicFe 0.18, as i said you by PM , i will give you a link to an Atomic 0.15 , this version does not use DirectShow and USB.   that could cause problem on Win95.

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: loadman on November 30, 2006, 04:29:41 am

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nor do I want anything that is illegal.

C'mon man you are making life hard for yourself.  :(
... I mean also technically you are meant to own most roms (Like the chips on the original mainboard)  before you can use them in MAME   ;)

I don't think anyone would really care if you had a special copy of Win98se to drive a dinosaur of a PC. Its a Ten year old OS.
Life would not be so tough for you then.  :)

Hell I'll sell you my original Windows98se upgrade CD for .25c
If you send a few bucks to post it to you for Australia.
But I'm sure you can find a better deal than that locally if look around.

You have a slow PC, Please don't cripple it any further by using Windows 95

I just can't bear with the pain of this arrangement...  :-[ The Pain The Pain  Crazy stuff  ;D

 ;)

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: SpeedEng on November 30, 2006, 04:27:39 pm

lol thanks for the info

I had win 98 around but like everything itjust got lost around in my mess of a garage.
I also have xp cd's but those are dell's recovery cds so it wont work either :(

if I can find it this weekend I will of course put in the newer version OS but last thing I wanted to do was to get some hacked version off BT and might be buggier than 95

thats the only reasion why im using 95
I will try anadtech to see if some one is selling a 98 for cheap (but then again I didnt want to really spend $$ on this little project heh)

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: headkaze on November 30, 2006, 04:34:24 pm

Try and get Windows 98 Second Edition. It's your best bet before XP. And avoid ME best you can ;)

Title: Re: newb help
Post by: loadman on November 30, 2006, 04:51:57 pm

Quote from: headkaze on November 30, 2006, 04:34:24 pm

Try and get Windows 98 Second Edition. It's your best bet before XP. And avoid ME best you can ;)

Ditto ... Good Luck!